Post subject: Would you draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:57 pm
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I've seen mocks of him getting drafted in the 2nd and some of him getting drafted in the 4th so I'll pick a middle-ground. The question: If Tyrann Mathieu was there in the 3rd round would you take a shot and draft him, if yes would you also consider drafting him in the 2nd to ensure you get him? He's a huge play-maker on the defense and is a great returner. I think he would excel in our defense at the nickel corner spot and as a special teams guy. He would be an immediate impact to our team. I know he has had his off the field issues but I think the Seahawks would be a team to give him a shot since we haven't been afraid to take a chance on other players with off the field issues. Some of those issues, according to Tyrann, are even resolved. I would love to draft him in the 3rd but I don't think I would use a 2nd rounder on him. What are your guys' thoughts?
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Post subject: Re: Would you draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:59 pm
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No, there are too many other talented players in the 3 - 5 range to waste one on him. He's only a part-time player, not a starter.
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Post subject: Re: Would you draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:19 pm
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No
MrPompous
Post subject: Re: Would you draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:50 pm
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I'd draft him in the 2nd. A guaranteed turnover machine with LOB caliber swagger can't be found in the latter rounds. A Branch clone can.
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Post subject: Re: Would you draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 2:55 pm
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I would not draft him in the UDFA round. He still tested positive after the fiasco at LSU. When it comes to the draft, there is no three strikes, two strikes is plenty.
Besides, we like our corners to be able to play nickel and both sides. This guy is a pure nickel.
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Largent80
Post subject: Re: Would you draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round?
Look at his eyes in that pic. Dude got his hands on some Blue Dream.
We already have one stoner, we don't even need this guy and his baggie....I mean baggage.
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Post subject: Re: Would you draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:24 pm
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I wouldn't want him period.
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Post subject: Re: Would you draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:13 pm
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The guy is a pot head, so does that mean you can't draft him? No, the guys a ball hawk and just makes plays, I would love the pick at 56
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Post subject: Re: Would you draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:26 pm
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No.
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Post subject: Re: Would you draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:13 pm
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Seeings how he will more than likely hoing undrafted.... my answer would be no.
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Post subject: Re: Would you draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:16 pm
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theENGLISHseahawk wrote:
No.
Why?
MrPompous
Post subject: Re: Would you draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:51 pm
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CALIHAWK1 wrote:
Seeings how he will more than likely hoing undrafted.... my answer would be no.
Says who & based on what? My fav TE in this draft (Kelce) missed an entire year for violating undisclosed rules, yet that's never mentioned. Is it a racial thing? Is it because Mathieu's issues played out with more media coverage?
Bottom line, the kid's a baller... a special playmaker. Those are extremely rare. Every team that passes on him past the mid 2nd will regret it.
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Post subject: Re: Would you draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:14 pm
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Take him:...he's playing for spot and only 1-2 years is all we need for a run...replaceae after that
Makes plays
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Post subject: Re: Would you draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:02 pm
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Just like a Game 7 in playoff basketball, BIG GAME football is all about matchups and game changing plays. No second chances. Winner take all. Tyrann Mathieu is my selection at #56, & without a doubt in the 3rd round. He is a dynamic playmaker, game changer, difference maker, and turnover creator. And here are my reasons...
We need quality over quantity these days in Superbowl favorite land people. We have 10 picks and there aren't 10 open roster slots in the final 53. We all love the fact that we are closer than we have ever been to winning it all... so, lets get real. Its football. One year ago, this guy is a top quality, ultra talented, 'Ball So Hard' top ten pick!!! Mark my words, a month from now... it would be a Russell Wilson style draft coup to get this guy at 56, let alone 87.
Forget 2nd round DTs & LBs, we can get those in the later rounds. What we need desperately is a better nickel CB to help us get off the field on 3rd downs, thus, I bring Mathieu into the fold as the missing "Fifth element" of the Legion of Boom.
Get him out of friggin' LSUisiana, let bygones be bygones, and let him feel a whole "new family" feeling of the Team, the 12th Man, and a sold out Century Link rockin' a high like no other! Besides, all it would take for Tyrann is creating a bigtime turnover vs. the Whiners, or returning a punt for a TD at the C-Link, and he'd be 'hooked' on a whole new healthy lifestyle.
Did Bruce Irvin have ATL regional history, major baggage, and was he a "risky pick"? YES. Did he get into trouble and revert to his old ways? A RESOUNDING NO.
Before we went JS/PC crazy in freeagency, and got real playmaker/game changer in Percy Harvin for the slot, and 2 of the best 3 available passrushing DEs, I would have considered DE in Rd. 1, and Zach Ertz and/or Ryan Swope at #56 as similar 12th man fan favorites who would make a difference as offensive 3rd down specialists. The goal being in my mind to try and gain more first downs and keep opposing high powered offenses off the field. After all, it wasn't so long ago we were scoring approximately 20 points a game y'know... and we can't always play from 2 or 3 TDs behind and expect road playoff miracles. Sure, if we score 50 every week? No problem...
BUT... our biggest obstacles to Superbowl Immmortality are the Falcons, the 49ers, and Peyton Manning and the Denver Broncos. To win those BIGTIME games we need to win the turnover battle, get off the field on third downs, and get the ball back into the potent hands of Russell Wilson and Company. Sure, now, we can score... but to win the Lombardi Trophy we need to prevent the 49ers, Falcons, and Broncos from scoring more.
In summation, the pick is the 'HoneyBadger', Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU. "The Look" on the field is like so... On "basic" third downs, we take runstuffers Red, KJ, and Morgan off... Bring in Irvin, Mathieu, & Bennett... drop Chancellor to the coverageLB... & go with 5 pass rushers, Bobby Wagner and "OUR 5" vs. "THEIR 5". (D-line/defensive backs vs. o-line/offensive backs) like so...
{M.Ryan} {Clabo, Konz, McClure, Blalock, S. Baker} {R. White, J. Rogers, H. Douglas, Gonzalez, J. Jones}
[Kaepernick] [A. Davis, Iupati, Goodwin, Boone, Staley] [Crabtree, L. James, Boldin, V. Davis, Moss]
vs. Irvin, Avril, Mebane, Bennett, Clemens B. Wagner Sherman, Mathieu, Thomas, Chancellor, Browner
I believe with our newfound passrush specialists, and a "playmaking nickel corner with Legion of Boom attitude" at #56, (let alone #87) we can legitimately lineup with, and defeat, ANYBODY.
And to me, that smells like Superbowl victory.
Last edited by kigenzun on Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:31 am, edited 6 times in total.
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Post subject: Re: Would you draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:14 pm
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I wouldn't be upset with the pick.. He's a baller who would immediately fit right in with our secondary. The guy made some INCREDIBLE plays at LSU.
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Post subject: Re: Would you draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:19 pm
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Nope....the guy's a flake....i don't care how talented he may be, one bad egg spoils the whole bunch!
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Post subject: Re: Would you draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:42 pm
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kigenzun wrote:
Just like a Game 7 in playoff basketball, BIG GAME football is all about matchups and game changing plays. No second chances. Winner take all. Tyrann Mathieu is my selection at #56, & without a doubt in the 3rd round. He is a dynamic playmaker, game changer, difference maker, and turnover creator. And here are my reasons...
We need quality over quantity these days in Superbowl favorite land people. We have 10 picks and there aren't 10 open roster slots in the final 53. We all love the fact that we are closer than we have ever been to winning it all... so, lets get real. Its football. One year ago, this guy is a top quality, ultra talented, 'Ball So Hard' top ten pick!!! Mark my words, a month from now... it would be a Russell Wilson style draft coup to get this guy at 56, let alone 87.
Forget 2nd round DTs & LBs, we can get those in the later rounds. What we need desperately is a better nickel CB to help us get off the field on 3rd downs, thus, I bring Mathieu into the fold as the missing "Fifth element" of the Legion of Boom.
Get him out of friggin' LSUisiana, let bygones be bygones, and let him feel a whole "new family" feeling of the Team, the 12th Man, and a sold out Century Link rockin' a high like no other! Besides, all it would take for Tyrann is creating a bigtime turnover vs. the Whiners, or returning a punt for a TD at the C-Link, and he'd be 'hooked' on a whole new healthy lifestyle.
Did Bruce Irvin have ATL regional history, major baggage, and was he a "risky pick"? YES. Did he get into trouble and revert to his old ways? A RESOUNDING NO.
Before we JS/PC crazy in freeagency, and got playmaker/game changer in Percy Harvin for the slot, and 2 of the best 3 available DEs, I would have considered DE, or Zach Ertz and/or Ryan Swope at #56 as similar 12th man fan favorites who would make a difference as a offensive 3rd down specialists. The goal being to try and gain more first downs and to keep opposing high powered offenses off the field. After all, t wasn't so long ago we were scoring approximately 20 points a game y'know... and we can't always play from 2 or 3 TDs behind and expect miracles. We score 50 every week? No problem...
BUT... our biggest obstacles to the Superbowl are the Falcons, the 49ers, and Peyton Manning and the Denver Broncos. To win those BIGTIME games we need to win the turnover battle, get off the field on third downs, and get the ball back into the potent hands of Russell Wilson and Company. Sure, we can score... but to win the Lombardi Trophy we need to prevent the 49ers and Falcons from scoring too.
In summation, the pick is the 'HoneyBadger', Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU. "The Look" on the field is like so... On "basic" third downs, we take runstuffers Red, KJ, and Morgan off... Bring in Irvin, Mathieu, & Bennett... drop Chancellor to the coverageLB... & go with 5 pass rushers, Bobby Wagner and "OUR 5" vs. "THEIR 5". (D-line/defensive backs vs. o-line/offensive backs) like so...
{M.Ryan} {Clabo, Konz, McClure, Blalock, S. Baker} {R. White, J. Rogers, H. Douglas, Gonzalez, J. Jones}
[Kaepernick] [A. Davis, Iupati, Goodwin, Boone, Staley] [Crabtree, L. James, Boldin, V. Davis, Moss]
vs. Irvin, Avril, Mebane, Bennett, Clemens B. Wagner Sherman, Mathieu, Thomas, Chancellor, Browner
I believe with our newfound passrush specialists, and a "playmaking nickel corner with Legion of Boom attitude" at #56, (let alone #87) we can legitimately lineup with, and defeat, ANYBODY.
And to me, that smells like Superbowl victory.
Great post. To the naysayers I respect your opinion but can you give more information than just a "No, he's a bad character".
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bestfightstory
Post subject: Re: Would you draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:29 am
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The guy is an idiot. NOPE.
I'd rather have the guy who put his pubes all over the internet.
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Post subject: Re: Would you draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:48 am
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MrPompous wrote:
Is it a racial thing?
Grow Up.
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Post subject: Re: Would you draft Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd round?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:57 am
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bestfightstory wrote:
The guy is an idiot. NOPE.
I'd rather have the guy who put his pubes all over the internet.
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