WRs to target in rounds 3-5

Thepeelsessions

New member
Joined
Oct 4, 2009
Messages
1,848
Reaction score
0
Location
Out here
All this talk about trading down to grab DGB is getting me all giddy! Is that really necessary though? I love how deep this draft seems to be at the position, and the fact that pundits are saying it might even be better than last years historic year for rookie receivers makes it that much better. If we don't trade down for a big receiver, who can you see the Hawks taking in the mid rounds?

Gavin Lutman anyone? He's virtually an unknown, but he's a big receiver, measuring at 6'4¨ 214 at his pro day is really enamoring to me. Maybe its just because I was a Big Joe Jurevicius fan. However, his pro day was apparently off the charts. He's from small Pitt state (same school as the Cardinals John Brown), but he could be a steal. Another guy I like is Vince Mayle from WSU. What do you Cougs fans say about this guy? Seems a little raw, and could use some polishing, but was a semifinalist for the Biletnikoff award and set some school records.
 

Seafan

New member
Joined
Mar 6, 2007
Messages
6,093
Reaction score
0
Location
Helotes, TX
Unless a good return man falls to the Hawks in the draft I wouldn't be surprised if the Hawks don't take a receiver until day 3. Graham essentially fills their biggest need on offense and if that trade didn't happen they most likely would have drafted a big receiver early. They could use a deep threat and hopefully they find one who can also KR/PR.
 

SomersetHawk

New member
Joined
May 10, 2012
Messages
2,897
Reaction score
0
Location
United Kingdom
Lutman's really intriguing, I've got my eye on him and Lemar Durant late on. Both guys who at times dominated at a lower level and show some really cool things on tape. Durant's a big physical dude with some really impressive speed, and Lutman looks similar and makes some ridiculous catches, frequently one-handed. I doubt either are round 5 prospects but can't say I'd be disappointed if we went that route with one of ours.
 

kearly

New member
Joined
Mar 6, 2007
Messages
15,975
Reaction score
0
Seattle seems to have the most success when targeting aggressive players. They've talked before about how intangibles really matter to them, particularly at WR. I think last year, they showed a definitive bias towards drafting polished WRs, a bit of a departure from previous years when they sought out 'rough around the edges' types like Golden Tate, Jermaine Kearse, Kris Durham and Chris Harper.

I kind of sense some indecision with our FO and WRs right now, I think some of the struggles they've had at the position has caused them to rethink their philosophy which makes predicting their tastes in 2015 difficult. Personally, I hope they go after exciting playmaker types like Lockette, Perriman, Dorsett, or Smith and resist the urge to take polished but completely ordinary WRs like Nelson Agholor. I'd rather see Seattle draft the next DeSean Jackson than the next Kendall Wright.

I think the DGB talk has at least a 50% chance of being a smokescreen, and I would say 99% chance normally except that I think DGB seems kinda Seahawky, at least enough to make me wonder about the rumors.
 

LTH

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 1, 2009
Messages
4,326
Reaction score
1,012
Kearly could you elaborate on your feeling of FO indecision... what makes you think there is indecision there?

when I look at the Hawks first pick, they could justify RB, WR, OL, DL, CB... it definately could be a receiver... I think it just depends on who falls and who the Hawks really LOVE as a player.... the one thing I know is that its going to be a very interesting draft and it will be very interesting to see what they do with that first pick... they Have the ammo to trade up although it doesnt feel to me like thats something they would do... I personally think PC and JS are salavating...

LTH
 

QuahHawk

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 12, 2009
Messages
5,641
Reaction score
108
Location
Issaquah, WA
We should add two WR'S this draft.

The addition of Graham will give our passing game a huge boost. But our WR group is still missing some big pieces. Baldwin is the only WR we have that is a led pipe lock to make the team this year.

Kearse, Norwood, Matthews, and Lockett are very replaceable players. Richardson looked to be the real deal last year but his injuries could land him on the P.U.P last and out for half the season.

It would not surprise me one bit if a 2nd or 3rd round WR beats out a guy like Kearse this season.

Replacing Lockett with a speedy return specialist would make sense.
 

hawksfansinceday1

Active member
Joined
Mar 3, 2007
Messages
24,629
Reaction score
3
Location
Vancouver, WA
Seafan":118yh9il said:
.........Graham essentially fills their biggest need on offense and if that trade didn't happen they most likely would have drafted a big receiver early. They could use a deep threat and hopefully they find one who can also KR/PR.
Respectfully disagree. I believe he fills half of the Hawks' biggest needs on offense, a big red zone target and middle zone deep threat. However, IMO the other half of the equation is an outside deep threat to compliment the very good slot guy in Baldwin and killer TE in Graham. And, the guy likely needs to be a good return man as well. Devin Smith for me please.
 

QuahHawk

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 12, 2009
Messages
5,641
Reaction score
108
Location
Issaquah, WA
I really like Tyler Lockett from K- State. Speedster who is a great returner. Slight resemblance to Randell Cobb but not likely to ever be more than an avg #2 wr who can return kicks.
 

Chawker

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 30, 2010
Messages
5,308
Reaction score
1,262
Location
corner of 30th & plum
One player that will be drafted higher then the so called "expects" think he will, is Michigan st. WR Tony Lippet 6' 3" 190. Not only Is he a dynamic receiver with very good athletics abilities, if your not a big Lippett fan just watch some tape on this kid. Sure he's not a polished first round receiver that only runs in the 4.5 range, but he can play corner too. He reminds me of......well, if you put Cam Chanhlor (spelled wrong) *#$% head on Richard Shemmans body. And if your wondering if he can block, just ask the Baylor's kicker from the cotton bowl (that is if he has regain his ability to speak yet).
I'm thinking late fourth or early fifth rounder. If he doesn't pan out as a WR then play him at CB. cheers
 

DJrmb

Well-known member
Joined
Feb 16, 2013
Messages
2,175
Reaction score
517
Seattle has invested more into its receivers than any other position on the roster whether you're talking about the big deals given to Sidney Rice and Percy Harvin or second-round picks used on Golden Tate and Paul Richardson. But losses due to free agency (Tate), injuries (Rice and Richardson) and attitude (Harvin) leaves receiver as one of a few needs on this team, even with the addition of Jimmy Graham.

However with investing so heavily into the receivers the philosophy also seems not to put a huge value on 1st round receivers. Whether you look at where John Schneider comes from in GB where their most productive receivers have typically been 2nd or 3rd round guys (Greg Jennings 2nd rd, James Jones 3rd rd, Jorday Nelson 2nd rd, Randall Cobb 2nd rd) or the more recent history in Seattle (Paul Richardson 2nd rd, Kevin Norwood 4th rd, Chris Harper 4th rd, Kris Durham 4th rd, Golden Tate 2nd rd.) So I think the OP's thought of looking at later round WR's is right on spot.

Some guys that I will be keeping an eye on...


Jaelen Strong - ASU- 2nd round - There is just something about Jaelen Strong that makes me see him as a big time playmaker, something Pete and John covet. He's not the "freakish" size speed prospect of a DGB or some others but he's damn good and just seems to have a knack for the big play. I see him as a comparison to a pre-injury Michael Crabtree.

Phillip Dorsett - Miami - 2nd - Your classic small (5'10") speedster (4.3 40), Dorsett would fill the speed threat in case P-Rich isn't ready day 1 plus he would give us an option for returning kicks/punts.

Dezmin Lewis - UCA - 4th/5th - Good size (6'4" 214) speed (4.5 40) combination who really opened a lot of eyes at the Senior Bowl. Scouts have said he's got "top notch" body control and that he moves very smoothly for a guy his size. Scouts also like his run after the catch ability making him more than just a possession receiver.

Darren Waller - Georgia Tech - 5th/6th - Waller is a huge receiver standing 6'6" and weighing in at 238 Lbs. I don't know if he can play WR in the NFL but it's not due to a lack of speed (he ran a 4.46 40 @ the combine) but he's stiff and doesn't have the quick twitch movement that the elite NFL WR's have. Still as a one trick pony and redzone threat he can be an asset. Waller may also be a candidate to move to TE if he can learning to block at the line of scrimmage and not just in the open field.

DeAndre Smelter - Georgia Tech - 6th/7th - Smelter is an intriguing prospect, once thought of as a 1st or 2nd round guy he's kind of fallen off the map after tearing his ACL. He's got good size at 6'2" and 226 Lbs. and even though we don't know his 40 he was obviously faster/quicker than his teammate Darren Waller on film so it's probably safe to say he's at least a 4.4's guy. He's got giant hands measuring at a whopping 11 inches (Bigger than Russell, Gronk, Calvin, Marshall, Dez, Demaryius, etc). He also comes from a running team with an athletic QB that scrambled around frequently like Russ so he knows how to block and how to continue working to get open while his QB is outside the pocket.

Kasen Williams - Washington - UDFA - Pete's brought in a few local guys recently, specifically Husky WR's (Kearse and Kevin Smith). I can see him eying another local product in Williams that should fly under the radar because of the troubles he had with injuries and poor QB play at Washington. Kasen Williams was the #2 ranked WR in the country coming out of HS and he brings a good combination of size (6'3" 217) and athleticism (4.5 40, 35.5 vert) if he can regain his form after recovering from a broken Fibula and Lisfranc injury. He did not look good at Washington last year but I expect Pete to kick the tires and see if the talent he once possessed is still there in some form.

Kyle Prater - Northwestern - UDFA - Prater was a Pete Carroll recruit that committed to USC but didn't play due to season ending injury his first year. He then transferred to Northwestern after Pete had left and Lane Kiffin took over. He didn't play much his first year at Northwestern due to learning a completely different style of offense and coming off his injured foot. His senior year he took over as the #1 starter and lead the receiver group in catches, yards, and touchdowns. He's got great size at 6'5" and 228 Lbs. He's good at making the contested catch, isn't afraid to take a hit going over the middle, and he's very smooth and fluid in his movement. I didn't see him create much separation in running his routes but he used his size and his body well to position for the ball when it got there. Don't be surprised if Pete reaches out to "recruit" Prater yet again.
 

QuahHawk

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 12, 2009
Messages
5,641
Reaction score
108
Location
Issaquah, WA
Wenhawk":2sqilfzy said:
I really like Tyler Lockett from K- State. Speedster who is a great returner. Slight resemblance to Randell Cobb but not likely to ever be more than an avg #2 wr who can return kicks.

Soo happy we got Lockett I projected him as our early 4th rd pick but I'm just glad we were able to get him as I'm confident he will be a good pro.
 

QuahHawk

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 12, 2009
Messages
5,641
Reaction score
108
Location
Issaquah, WA
Personally, I hope they go after exciting playmaker types like Lockette, Perriman, Dorsett, or Smith and resist the urge to take polished but completely ordinary

And they did
 

Seafan

New member
Joined
Mar 6, 2007
Messages
6,093
Reaction score
0
Location
Helotes, TX
hawksfansinceday1":2q5942br said:
Seafan":2q5942br said:
.........Graham essentially fills their biggest need on offense and if that trade didn't happen they most likely would have drafted a big receiver early. They could use a deep threat and hopefully they find one who can also KR/PR.
Respectfully disagree. I believe he fills half of the Hawks' biggest needs on offense, a big red zone target and middle zone deep threat. However, IMO the other half of the equation is an outside deep threat to compliment the very good slot guy in Baldwin and killer TE in Graham. And, the guy likely needs to be a good return man as well. Devin Smith for me please.

Like I've said many times before, the FO doesn't value receivers like the fans. Their draft strategy was predictable. I expected them to get the best edge rusher available and then their biggest need (return man) if possible. Talents like Fisher, Morse, Marpet and Sambrailo leaving early made drafting OL a day three proposition. They likely liked Mike Davis but not any other RBs. Seattle used this draft to infuse this team with even more talent. Graham, Clark and Lockett are going to have a huge impact on this season. What more can you ask?
 

Latest posts

Top