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Surprised nobody's talking about it here. Wish there were some beaver fans here to talk civil war. As for the apple cup, if falk were playing I don't think uw could score enough to keep up. Without falk I think uw will win a close one.
 

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JSeahawks":3dlbajij said:
Surprised nobody's talking about it here. Wish there were some beaver fans here to talk civil war. As for the apple cup, if falk were playing I don't think uw could score enough to keep up. Without falk I think uw will win a close one.


Don't think that Falk has been ruled out. Reporter said that there was a number 4 suited up on the practice field.
 

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I have a lot of thoughts on this game.

For starters, I want to communicate that I have a lot of respect for WSU and am actually quite happy for their success this year. Back in the 90s and early 2000s there was a nice stretch when both UW and WSU were legit Pac-10 contenders and nationally relevant programs, and for a time the Apple cup was one of the better rivalry games in the conference. When WSU represented the Pac-10 in the Rose Bowl I cheered like crazy for them. I generally root for them in bowl games as well. They represent the State of Washington as much as UW does, so in a lot of ways I view UW / WSU as a White Sox / Cubs or Angels / Dodgers kind of relationship.

I also think Mike Leach is a solid coach and a fun listen in press conferences. And Luke Falk is not just a system guy, but a clutch performer. Falk is probably a future NFL draft pick.

Long story short, I like WSU and am quite happy that this game feels relevant again.

As far as the game itself, my assumption is that Falk will play. Some coaches take concussion protocol seriously, others (like Bill Belichick and Jeff Fisher) see it as more of a hindrance. Leach seems like the kind of old school coach that would fit into the latter category, and his angry and defiant answers to concussion questions all week make me think he's already got Falk penciled in regardless of what the doctor's say. We'll see what happens but I'll be surprised if Falk sits. With a win WSU would basically assure themselves a Holiday Bowl bid.

On the flip side, it's up in the air whether Qualls or Feeney will play, and they are arguably the two best defenders UW has. Personally, I hope everyone plays, assuming that Falk is cleared by doctors.

WSU is having a good season, and their 8-3 record is fair. I think UW is WAY better than their 5-6 record, considering that they have a very good defense, good special teams, one of the best RBs in the conference, and a QB that is coming on strong. Unfortunately, UW has suffered in close games, going 1-3 in games decided by one score (WSU is 4-3 in close games). A couple plays, a couple calls go different and UW is 7-4.

It's been a maddening season for UW. It's not much fun going 5-6 with +106 scoring differential. WSU is 8-3 with a +64 scoring differential. The later type of a season is a heck of a lot more fun, even though WSU has exerted dominance less often than UW has.

UW has played a slightly tougher schedule than WSU while producing a better point differential. Does that mean UW will win the Apple Cup? I don't know. But it does mean that the computers will probably favor UW, and it turns out, they do. The S&P forumla, created by a football outsiders staff member, not only has UW winning but winning by an average margin of 11.2 points, with a 74.1% chance overall to win this week.

And its no disrespect to WSU, but that prediction feels right to me, even if Falk plays. That doesn't mean I don't think WSU can't win or that they aren't having a really good season. But UW has come on very strong in the latter half of this season, only to be masked by some tough losses, like the SB XL-esque Utah game or the game against ASU where UW lost by 10 despite outgaining ASU by 150 yards. When not being sabotaged by refs or shooting themselves in the foot at clutch moments in games, UW has looked like a dominant team the past month.

My big worry as a UW fan is that Falk plays, but Feeney and Qualls do not, and that could be game changer the same way it was in the Super Bowl when Edelman came back from his concussion but Avril did not. That said, if everyone plays in this game I would feel pretty good about UW winning because I think they are a more complete team that WSU and have quietly played some extremely good football over the past month.
 

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Falk was cleared to play once and was sent back in. Only to be stretchered out the next time he was hit.

I say sit him and save him for the bowl game.

Not sure if Leach will do that if he's cleared. But what's that say if he's lost for the bowl game if Leach decides to be greedy? What will that say to the players?

Their backup QB is supposed to be pretty good as well. Plus there's not a lot of film on him.

I think UW still wins if the refs let us play and we play like we're capable of playing.
 

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Falk might play, but I'd bet he doesn't make it through the game.


He's only a SO, and already has this many concussions, I doubt he ever makes it to the NFL kearly.
 

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IMO both of these programs are solid and it has been a long time since you could say that.
 

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UW is a good, well coached team with a strong defense. WSU has been fairly consistent the last couple months, they are a couple bad calls and a missed chip shot field goal away from being first place in the north. UW plays in fits and starts and doesn't seem to handle themselves very well in close games. WSU on the other hand, is relentless, keeps on punching and have been pretty solid at the end of games, granted that has been with Falk at qb.

I'm not surprised WSU is an underdog. They've been underdogs in 5 of their 8 wins. Yet they keep on winning.

If Falk plays, WSU wins a close one, if he doesn't, ehhh, don't feel too good about it.
 

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Apparently Luke Falk has been ruled out for today's game.

That stinks.
 

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Hasselbeck":zi5a0a3u said:
Apparently Luke Falk has been ruled out for today's game.

That stinks.
One of my cousins heard the same thing on IMG radio. I'm really not surprised though. Hell, they took him off on a stretcher six days ago!

Like kearly I root for both schools against anyone but each other and in all bowl games. I lived in Seattle for 7 years in the 80s but grew up in Spokane so it'll always be Cougars first and Huskies second.

As for the game, while it's not a huge drop off from Falk to Bender, it us a drop off and IMO it may be tge difference between a W and an L. That said, I'm gonna let my Coug fanboy predict:

Cougs 31
Dawgs 30



GO COUGS!
 

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My brother is Coug alumni, his first boy is Coug alumni. So I am more a coug fan than other. We grew up in a town directly in the middle between UW and Cougville. I gotta go Cougs for the win.

Side note. My alumni would most likely be UofMaryland as I have several classes with that school. That or Boise State with 2 classes or Air Force for the Degree. I am so confused...LOL
 
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I'm gonna say wsu 31 uw 21. But I'm not really confident in my prediction and i wouldnt be at all surprised if the huskies won. As for the civil war, ducks Infiniti beavers -3.
 

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Big drop by Don Williams, looked like he might have scored. Good first Drive though, Go Cougs.
 
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