Bronson Kaufusi could be Seattle's first pick

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People probably won't like it -- but there's a strong case to be made there.

LINK: http://seahawksdraftblog.com/bronson-ka ... first-pick

Look at his athletic profile and consider what the Seahawks draft early:

1. Grit
2. Production
3. Freaky athletes

That is Kaufusi.

Like I said, you won't like this suggestion but I think the argument at least breaks down why it might happen.
 

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theENGLISHseahawk":1taxos79 said:
People probably won't like it -- but there's a strong case to be made there.

LINK: http://seahawksdraftblog.com/bronson-ka ... first-pick

Look at his athletic profile and consider what the Seahawks draft early:

1. Grit
2. Production
3. Freaky athletes

That is Kaufusi.

Like I said, you won't like this suggestion but I think the argument at least breaks down why it might happen.

He's a great looking pure DE . . . But despite his size he's not an inside/outside guy. But for a guy has size he plays with fantastic beND around the edge.

I would hate it at 26 though.
 
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Both Bruce and Kaufusi would be 25 as a rookie.

In fairness -- if he gives them 4-5 good years they'll probably take it. That's this Championship window. And he might be a little bit more ready to start in the NFL if he's physically mature.
 

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I'd be all in. But most online analysis rate him anywhere from rounds 2-5. Maybe he's on the Seahawks radar, but later in day 2?
 

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I'd be disappointed if he was our first rounder. Over half of his sacks came in 2 games (Cincinnati, Fresno St). I'd rather wait 6 rounds or invite Dean Lowry to camp. He doesn't have quite as good of stats as Kaufusi but he's higher sparq wise and played in the Big 10. I'd also add David Onyemomma to this discussion. Similar build but played against very low competition. He was, however, number 2 in sparq scores behind Justin Zimmer (a guy I love at any position).
 

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You can look at the measurable, but Bullard played against much tougher and better competition, I would say looking at technique and the package of moves as well as the games to see if Bullard was limited due to teams staying away from him or being neutralized by better competition.
 

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Bullard IMO is a true tackle end hybrid. Kaufusi is an end. A really intriguing one. But he doesn't show Bullard versatity.
 

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chris98251":1ai7isj0 said:
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You can look at the measurable, but Bullard played against much tougher and better competition, I would say looking at technique and the package of moves as well as the games to see if Bullard was limited due to teams staying away from him or being neutralized by better competition.

I don't think schedule is a legit arguement. I mean you can go back a few years and point out Alabama's schedule vs Boise State's, but no one wants Richardson over Martin. You could also say look at the players around Bullard vs the players around Kaufusi. Grading the players on what they can do is all we have to go off of.
 

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EverydayImRusselin":1ooyvjnz said:
chris98251":1ooyvjnz said:
2015 BYU Cougars Football Schedule
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Sep. 5 Cornhuskers at Nebraska Cornhuskers
Memorial Stadium, Lincoln, NE Won 33-28 ---
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Saturday
Sep. 19 Bruins at UCLA Bruins
Rose Bowl, Los Angeles, CA Lost 24-23 ---
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Michigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI Lost 31-0 ---
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Saturday
Nov. 21 Bulldogs Fresno State Bulldogs
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Nov. 28 Aggies at Utah State Aggies
Maverik Stadium, Logan, UT Won 51-28 ---
2015 Royal Purple Las Vegas Bowl
Saturday
Dec. 19 Utes Utah Utes
Sam Boyd Stadium, Las Vegas, NV Lost 35-28 ---


2015 Florida Gators Football Schedule
Record: 10-4, 7-1 (SEC)
Date Opponent Time/TV Tickets
Saturday
Sep. 5 Aggies New Mexico State Aggies
Ben Hill Griffin Stadium, Gainesville, FL Won 61-13 ---
Saturday
Sep. 12 Pirates East Carolina Pirates
Ben Hill Griffin Stadium, Gainesville, FL Won 31-24 ---
Saturday
Sep. 19 Wildcats at Kentucky Wildcats
Commonwealth Stadium, Lexington, KY Won 14-9 ---
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Sep. 26 Volunteers Tennessee Volunteers
Ben Hill Griffin Stadium, Gainesville, FL Won 28-27 ---
Saturday
Oct. 3 Rebels Ole Miss Rebels
Ben Hill Griffin Stadium, Gainesville, FL Won 38-10 ---
Saturday
Oct. 10 Tigers at Missouri Tigers
Faurot Field, Columbia, MO Won 21-3 ---
Saturday
Oct. 17 Tigers at LSU Tigers
Tiger Stadium, Baton Rouge, LA Lost 35-28 ---
Saturday
Oct. 24 --- Open Date --- ---
Saturday
Oct. 31 Bulldogs Georgia Bulldogs
EverBank Field, Jacksonville, FL Won 27-3 ---
Saturday
Nov. 7 Commodores Vanderbilt Commodores (HC)
Ben Hill Griffin Stadium, Gainesville, FL Won 9-7 ---
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Nov. 21 Owls Florida Atlantic Owls
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2015 SEC Championship Game
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Dec. 5 Crimson Tide Alabama Crimson Tide
Georgia Dome, Atlanta, GA Lost 29-15 ---
2016 Buffalo Wild Wings Citrus Bowl
Friday
Jan. 1 Wolverines Michigan Wolverines
Orlando Citrus Bowl, Orlando, FL Lost 41-7 ---


You can look at the measurable, but Bullard played against much tougher and better competition, I would say looking at technique and the package of moves as well as the games to see if Bullard was limited due to teams staying away from him or being neutralized by better competition.

I don't think schedule is a legit arguement. I mean you can go back a few years and point out Alabama's schedule vs Boise State's, but no one wants Richardson over Martin. You could also say look at the players around Bullard vs the players around Kaufusi. Grading the players on what they can do is all we have to go off of.

So a running back that gains 3000 yds and 40 touchdowns in NAIA such as St. Ambrose University is a better back then say Henry because he did better individually?

That's what your argument says. No need to look at competition and who he played against.
 

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I like Kaufusi as a player more than some of the popular names being thrown around here. But even with good arm length and a decent SPARQ score, he seems like more of an Arizona Cardinals pass rusher (strong yet sluggish, high floor, low risk) than a Seahawks pass rusher (explosive, lengthy, ultra-high ceiling, high risk). Like others, I see Kaufusi as an edge player. He reminds me of a bigger, heavier version of Alex Okafor.

Some people really like him but my guess is that he goes mid-rounds to a team that runs a 3-4.

That said nothing would shock me with Seattle right now. This draft is very short in supply of obvious Seahawky players that check every single box.

It sucks that I go into every draft now expecting Seattle to draft mid-to-late 2nd round players in round one, and mid-round guys in round 2. That's why you'll never hear me complain about the price of the Graham trade. I wouldn't care if Seattle gave up their first rounder in a trade every single year given the way that John Schneider uses them.
 

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Kaufusi is in that 2nd tier of DL athletes and will be 26 years old next season. He's a good player, but I would be surprised to see him go in the first 50 picks. And doubly surprised if Seattle took him in that range after drafting Frank Clark with their first pick one year ago. His get-off is a couple notches below a Michael Bennett, Cliff Avril, or Frank Clark. Quickness off the ball is something Carroll prioritizes more than just about anything else in his defensive linemen.
 

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Kaufusi in the 1st round is too rich for my blood, mainly due to his age and I don't like him vs the run. I do like him, but more as 2nd or 3rd round prospect. After watching two of his games, I thought his balance turning the corner is impressive for such a big guy, his agility is also apparent when changing direction. I am intrigued to see how effective he could be at the 3-DT on obvious passing downs. He has a nice burst, closing speed, and I like that he occasionally flashed a spin move. Given his size, he doesn't play with very much power. I didn't see him being able to bull rush. Also once he is engaged with an o-lineman, vs the run, he seems to get stuck on the block and unable to disengage from the block.
 
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chris98251":37j311j6 said:
2015 BYU Cougars Football Schedule
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Sep. 5 Cornhuskers at Nebraska Cornhuskers
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Saturday
Sep. 12 Broncos Boise State Broncos
LaVell Edwards Stadium, Provo, UT Won 35-24 ---
Saturday
Sep. 19 Bruins at UCLA Bruins
Rose Bowl, Los Angeles, CA Lost 24-23 ---
Saturday
Sep. 26 Wolverines at Michigan Wolverines
Michigan Stadium, Ann Arbor, MI Lost 31-0 ---
Friday
Oct. 2 Huskies Connecticut Huskies
LaVell Edwards Stadium, Provo, UT Won 30-13 ---
Saturday
Oct. 10 Pirates East Carolina Pirates (HC)
LaVell Edwards Stadium, Provo, UT Won 45-38 ---
Friday
Oct. 16 Bearcats Cincinnati Bearcats
LaVell Edwards Stadium, Provo, UT Won 38-24 ---
Saturday
Oct. 24 Seahawks Wagner Seahawks
LaVell Edwards Stadium, Provo, UT Won 70-6 ---
Saturday
Oct. 31 --- Open Date --- ---
Friday
Nov. 6 Spartans at San Jose State Spartans
Spartan Stadium, San Jose, CA Won 17-16 ---
Saturday
Nov. 14 Tigers at Missouri Tigers
Arrowhead Stadium, Kansas City, MO Lost 20-16 ---
Saturday
Nov. 21 Bulldogs Fresno State Bulldogs
LaVell Edwards Stadium, Provo, UT Won 52-10 ---
Saturday
Nov. 28 Aggies at Utah State Aggies
Maverik Stadium, Logan, UT Won 51-28 ---
2015 Royal Purple Las Vegas Bowl
Saturday
Dec. 19 Utes Utah Utes
Sam Boyd Stadium, Las Vegas, NV Lost 35-28 ---


2015 Florida Gators Football Schedule
Record: 10-4, 7-1 (SEC)
Date Opponent Time/TV Tickets
Saturday
Sep. 5 Aggies New Mexico State Aggies
Ben Hill Griffin Stadium, Gainesville, FL Won 61-13 ---
Saturday
Sep. 12 Pirates East Carolina Pirates
Ben Hill Griffin Stadium, Gainesville, FL Won 31-24 ---
Saturday
Sep. 19 Wildcats at Kentucky Wildcats
Commonwealth Stadium, Lexington, KY Won 14-9 ---
Saturday
Sep. 26 Volunteers Tennessee Volunteers
Ben Hill Griffin Stadium, Gainesville, FL Won 28-27 ---
Saturday
Oct. 3 Rebels Ole Miss Rebels
Ben Hill Griffin Stadium, Gainesville, FL Won 38-10 ---
Saturday
Oct. 10 Tigers at Missouri Tigers
Faurot Field, Columbia, MO Won 21-3 ---
Saturday
Oct. 17 Tigers at LSU Tigers
Tiger Stadium, Baton Rouge, LA Lost 35-28 ---
Saturday
Oct. 24 --- Open Date --- ---
Saturday
Oct. 31 Bulldogs Georgia Bulldogs
EverBank Field, Jacksonville, FL Won 27-3 ---
Saturday
Nov. 7 Commodores Vanderbilt Commodores (HC)
Ben Hill Griffin Stadium, Gainesville, FL Won 9-7 ---
Saturday
Nov. 14 Gamecocks at South Carolina Gamecocks
Williams-Brice Stadium, Columbia, SC Won 24-14 ---
Saturday
Nov. 21 Owls Florida Atlantic Owls
Ben Hill Griffin Stadium, Gainesville, FL Won 20-14 (OT) ---
Saturday
Nov. 28 Seminoles Florida State Seminoles
Ben Hill Griffin Stadium, Gainesville, FL Lost 27-2 ---
2015 SEC Championship Game
Saturday
Dec. 5 Crimson Tide Alabama Crimson Tide
Georgia Dome, Atlanta, GA Lost 29-15 ---
2016 Buffalo Wild Wings Citrus Bowl
Friday
Jan. 1 Wolverines Michigan Wolverines
Orlando Citrus Bowl, Orlando, FL Lost 41-7 ---


You can look at the measurable, but Bullard played against much tougher and better competition, I would say looking at technique and the package of moves as well as the games to see if Bullard was limited due to teams staying away from him or being neutralized by better competition.


A schedule-based counter is totally redundant.

For example, what if East Carolina realise they can't compete for the elite D-liners in their state (or QB's, WR's, CB's etc) and decide to pump their recruiting time and resources into building a tough O-line? The #1 pick in the 2013 draft was a left tackle from Central Michigan. They might be awful in every aspect apart from their O-line. I don't know whether that is true -- but neither do you. And that's the problem with just looking at a schedule. Unless you're going to break down that he faced a bunch of lousy O-lines and Bullard didn't, none of this means anything.

FWIW -- it's not even like that BYU schedule is particularly weak. They faced UCLA, Boise State, Michigan, Missouri, Utah State and Utah.

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I would be surprised to see him go in the first 50 picks.

That's kind of the point though.

Everyone assumes Seattle will do something really surprising and they associate that with a pick at a non-position of need. A lot of people have asserted to me they think they'll go WR in round one for example because 'the Seahawks keep us guessing'.

Drafting Kaufusi early (my guess if it happened would be after trading back into the 30's or 40's) would be exactly the type of pick where people say 'huh??' as it happens and they look closer at the unique traits, upside, grit, character and it kind of makes sense why PCJS have drafted him (even if ppl don't agree with their way of doing things).
 

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I don't get strength of schedule arguments for college player prospects. Now, show me an actual matchup with a NFL caliber college player, like Kaufusi went head to head with a tackle likely to go in the first two rounds, and we can have a discussion.

DE to me is a spot where you draft tools, not results. So many guys that produced in college struggle at the next level, or take time to develop counter moves. Bruce was a tools pick.
 

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I just don't see anything about this guy that leaps off the screen at you. All of his higlights were edge and I didn't see much of anything from the interior.

Really love the possibilities Rob brings up but I think this would be a major reach before pick 70ish.
 

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Scottemojo":1zv0dzia said:
I don't get strength of schedule arguments for college player prospects. Now, show me an actual matchup with a NFL caliber college player, like Kaufusi went head to head with a tackle likely to go in the first two rounds, and we can have a discussion.

DE to me is a spot where you draft tools, not results. So many guys that produced in college struggle at the next level, or take time to develop counter moves. Bruce was a tools pick.

If you look at guys who have been successful pass rushers in the NFL, the overwhelming majority of them produced in college.

So I would completely agree with what you say here, but I would amend it by saying that a glaring lack of production would be a red flag for me, given the sparsity of players who struggle to produce in college and then turn it on in the pros.

I could not agree more on your point about putting performances in context and looking at tools more than results. It's the reason why I would be okay with Vernon Butler or Andrew Billings at #26 despite a lack of production, because they clearly have NFL tools and probably wouldn't need a ton of seasoning to contribute. Neither one is likely to be a 10 sack a year player, but both are talented enough to be a high end contributor.
 

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A guy that doesn't dominate every game against second tier talent is what I am saying, the guy should have numbers off the board, a guy that faces NFL prospects every week and puts up decent to respectable numbers is a guy I want to look at closer. The guy that should eat competition but doesn't every week I have to question his desire, competitive edge and work ethic. It's not a catch all, you combine everything to make a judgement of a player.

Also you said break down against players on other lines, we may not but that's a scouts job and what analysts do to judge a player, if not people are throwing names out based on measurable and hoping they guess right. That doesn't include the interview and intangibles that guys like Wilson, Sherman, Chancellor bring to the table.
 
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