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UCLA QB comments on School/football
Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:01 pm

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Fri Aug 11, 2017 8:54 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20294625/ucla-bruins-coach-jim-mora-talks-josh-rosen-controversial-comments

    Thoughts?

    First impression is Jim Mora is slimy trash who knows his QB has a point


    You read this from kid who's been handed everything in life, been praised by everyone since he was little, and to me is screams of a spoiled brat. Then go listen to Alonzo's interview with 710 today, and read up on how he had to help work to put food on the table as a kid. And he had no issues at school. Rosen will be the next hated QB in the nfl, the next Cutler.
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Re: UCLA QB comments on School/football
Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:07 pm
  • It is beyond time that the NCAA is disbanded at the NFL/NBA pick up the check for their own player development. They need an academy system like they have in Europe. This will fix a bunch of issues. It will get players into NFL football academies at 17/18 and they can play with NFL rules and NFL schemes (bye bye spread no huddle). Now I know that college football is very popular so why don't have something like the University of Washington football academy or University of Alabama football academy where the players will get their academic only scholarship after they are done playing football. Not only that with this new academy system we can have an under 21 Superbowl when the best academy teams play. They can also play more games in November and December because they will not be limited by school.
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Re: UCLA QB comments on School/football
Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:44 pm
  • sdog1981 wrote:It is beyond time that the NCAA is disbanded at the NFL/NBA pick up the check for their own player development. They need an academy system like they have in Europe. This will fix a bunch of issues. It will get players into NFL football academies at 17/18 and they can play with NFL rules and NFL schemes (bye bye spread no huddle). Now I know that college football is very popular so why don't have something like the University of Washington football academy or University of Alabama football academy where the players will get their academic only scholarship after they are done playing football. Not only that with this new academy system we can have an under 21 Superbowl when the best academy teams play. They can also play more games in November and December because they will not be limited by school.



    That sounds terrible.
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Re: UCLA QB comments on School/football
Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:11 pm
  • JSeahawks wrote:
    That sounds terrible.



    What would be terrible about it?
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Re: UCLA QB comments on School/football
Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:20 pm
  • sdog1981 wrote:
    JSeahawks wrote:
    That sounds terrible.



    What would be terrible about it?


    Well, I guess my thought is if it ain't broke, don't fix it. In my opinion the college game as a whole is way more entertaining and interesting than the nfl.
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Re: UCLA QB comments on School/football
Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:43 am
  • JSeahawks wrote:
    sdog1981 wrote:
    JSeahawks wrote:
    That sounds terrible.



    What would be terrible about it?


    Well, I guess my thought is if it ain't broke, don't fix it. In my opinion the college game as a whole is way more entertaining and interesting than the nfl.



    I can see that point too. I have soured on the business side of NCAA football. The days of teams only playing 11 games and the students were done with football in November are gone and I feel the NCAA is now exploiting these players.
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Re: UCLA QB comments on School/football
Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:50 am
  • JSeahawks wrote:
    sdog1981 wrote:
    JSeahawks wrote:
    That sounds terrible.



    What would be terrible about it?


    Well, I guess my thought is if it ain't broke, don't fix it. In my opinion the college game as a whole is way more entertaining and interesting than the nfl.


    It is broke though J. Just because it entertains you doesn't mean it's not without its fundamental flaw (of which there are many). Not worth pointing out here but if the only advantage these players get is that a few don't pay for college while the schools and corporations are making near billions on the backs of uncompensated labor then yes.. it's broke.

    And if this kid is saying that even getting the education part of the deal is near impossible because of the importance put on the sport then disbanding college football and going to development leagues makes the most sense.

    Never happen because why would the schools care. But in soccer, college level is not attracting the best players anymore. Basketball is starting to turn with kids going to Europe. Baseball has the minors.

    Football right now offers no choice to its athletes. Imagine if it did.
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Re: UCLA QB comments on School/football
Fri Aug 25, 2017 11:46 am
  • The change I would like to see is that they should be able to make money off their own names if they're big enough to do so. Otherwise I believe their free education and per diem is pay enough. I know you're not going to change my mind, and I'm 99.9% sure I'm not going to change yours so I won't even try.
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Re: UCLA QB comments on School/football
Fri Aug 25, 2017 3:14 pm
  • JSeahawks wrote:The change I would like to see is that they should be able to make money off their own names if they're big enough to do so.



    That is a compromise I can agree on.
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Re: UCLA QB comments on School/football
Mon Aug 28, 2017 9:03 am
  • JSeahawks wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/20294625/ucla-bruins-coach-jim-mora-talks-josh-rosen-controversial-comments

    Thoughts?

    First impression is Jim Mora is slimy trash who knows his QB has a point


    Reminds me of my all time favorite tweet. From Cardale Jones: Why do we have to go to class when we came here to play football? We didnt come to play school. Classes are pointless!


    My favorite aspect of that tweet is that Cardale leaves early after a pretty small window of time but winds up getting his degree anyway. School is gonna get you yet Cardale!
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Re: UCLA QB comments on School/football
Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:46 am
  • JSeahawks wrote:The change I would like to see is that they should be able to make money off their own names if they're big enough to do so. Otherwise I believe their free education and per diem is pay enough. I know you're not going to change my mind, and I'm 99.9% sure I'm not going to change yours so I won't even try.


    This. So much this.

    If you pay college football players, then you have to pay the female college softball players. And the college golfers.

    I have a good job based on my college education, but it cost me, financially and emotionally, working through college while raising a teenage daughter by myself and studying computer science, mathematics and electrical engineering. I ended up with high blood pressure and panic attacks.

    Meanwhile, all of the men and women that played any kind of sport, even the ones that lost the school money, had free room and board and education. And some of them actually played specifically for that reason, to get an education.

    If the schools make money, so be it, as long as they put it back in the schools. And they need to cut back on administration and faculty as there are way too many of those people racking up a huge paycheck and benefits while just making busy work.

    Take that money, and lower tuition for the working kids trying to make it through school. Turn it in to scholarships and work-study programs. But don't pay the students to play a game.

    Like Ricky Williams said, "If you pay student athletes, it devalues the student education and the diploma. In other words people would look at their degrees as worthless because the students were there getting paid, not to get an education. In those cases, the students don't care, they do just enough to get by. It's almost like someone bought the degree for them.

    And that hurts the student-athlete that is sincere about their education. The ones that are doing it for their family, or because it's something that they've always dreamed of.

    But that's just my humble opinion.
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