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Saquon Barkley
Sat Sep 23, 2017 6:58 pm
  • I would mortgage the farm for this kid wow. A combination between Barry Sanders and Marshawn Lynch. Kid is so good he could run behind the Seahawks Oline. He put on one of best performances tonight against Iowa that I ever seen wow. If Seattle is looking for a back like Marshawn well here u go. I would give up two first rounders for him for sure. We most likely would be trading picks to move back anyways. Would be a dream come true kid can ball.
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Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:01 pm
  • Looks like Penn State is going down.

    The Barkley Kid will be a Trophy front runner but this game won't help his cause.

    Been fun to watch this game.
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Re: Saquon Barkley
Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:13 pm
  • Holy Crap.

    What a final drive by Penn.


    Walk off TD.

    IF you missed this finish you missed one for the ages.

    21-19 Penn St.
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Re: Saquon Barkley
Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:28 pm
  • It was a great game huh P!
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Re: Saquon Barkley
Mon Sep 25, 2017 3:29 am
  • 5' 11" 230lbs
    4.33 40
    455 bench
    405 power clean
    >600 lbs squat

    This kid is high character and humble and will most likely be the #1 RB taken in the draft.
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Re: Saquon Barkley
Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:31 am
  • Never trust a running back who played in a spread offense. That rule is only followed by never draft a Penn State running back.
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Re: Saquon Barkley
Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:17 pm
  • sdog1981 wrote:Never trust a running back who played in a spread offense. That rule is only followed by never draft a Penn State running back.


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Re: Saquon Barkley
Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:37 am
  • Read this article and defintely watch the embedded video clips. Some of them had me smiling at his absurd athleticism.

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Re: Saquon Barkley
Mon Oct 02, 2017 7:38 pm
  • WmHBonney wrote:
    sdog1981 wrote:Never trust a running back who played in a spread offense. That rule is only followed by never draft a Penn State running back.


    Not a Curt Warner fan? Or was that before your time?



    It's not 1983. So the list of Penn State trash since Warner

    DJ Dozier 1987
    Blair Thomas 1990 2nd overall
    Ki-Jana Carter 1995 1st overall
    Curtis Enis 1998 5th overall

    Big Ten running backs don't do very well in the NFL. For every Eddie George and Zek Eliot, there are about 10 more Ron Dayne's
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Re: Saquon Barkley
Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:00 pm
  • I would be more than happy no matter what the seahawks gave up (short of trading Russ) to get Saquon Barkley. DO IT!!!!!
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Re: Saquon Barkley
Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:20 pm
  • WmHBonney wrote:
    sdog1981 wrote:Never trust a running back who played in a spread offense. That rule is only followed by never draft a Penn State running back.


    Not a Curt Warner fan? Or was that before your time?



    Since Curt Warner played, D.J. Dozier, Blair Thomas, Ki-Jana Carter, and Curtis Enis have all been first round picks from Penn St. and have been complete and utter busts. Only Larry Johnson has had a decent career, but even he flamed out in the end.
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Re: Saquon Barkley
Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:20 am
  • Maulbert wrote:
    WmHBonney wrote:
    sdog1981 wrote:Never trust a running back who played in a spread offense. That rule is only followed by never draft a Penn State running back.


    Not a Curt Warner fan? Or was that before your time?



    Since Curt Warner played, D.J. Dozier, Blair Thomas, Ki-Jana Carter, and Curtis Enis have all been first round picks from Penn St. and have been complete and utter busts. Only Larry Johnson has had a decent career, but even he flamed out in the end.


    That is what I was saying. Zek Elliot was the first big ten running back to lead the NFL in rushing since 1974 so yeah Big Ten running backs tend to suck in the NFL.
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Re: Saquon Barkley
Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:45 am
  • sdog1981 wrote:
    Maulbert wrote:
    WmHBonney wrote:
    sdog1981 wrote:Never trust a running back who played in a spread offense. That rule is only followed by never draft a Penn State running back.


    Not a Curt Warner fan? Or was that before your time?



    Since Curt Warner played, D.J. Dozier, Blair Thomas, Ki-Jana Carter, and Curtis Enis have all been first round picks from Penn St. and have been complete and utter busts. Only Larry Johnson has had a decent career, but even he flamed out in the end.


    That is what I was saying. Zek Elliot was the first big ten running back to lead the NFL in rushing since 1974 so yeah Big Ten running backs tend to suck in the NFL.


    How about Le'veon Bell? He's from Michigan State. Then there's Tevin Coleman from Indiana. James White is contributing for Pats. He's from Wisconsin. Plenty of Big 10 backs that have not "sucked" in NFL.
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Re: Saquon Barkley
Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:46 am
  • hawkfan68 wrote:
    sdog1981 wrote:
    Maulbert wrote:
    WmHBonney wrote:
    Not a Curt Warner fan? Or was that before your time?



    Since Curt Warner played, D.J. Dozier, Blair Thomas, Ki-Jana Carter, and Curtis Enis have all been first round picks from Penn St. and have been complete and utter busts. Only Larry Johnson has had a decent career, but even he flamed out in the end.


    That is what I was saying. Zek Elliot was the first big ten running back to lead the NFL in rushing since 1974 so yeah Big Ten running backs tend to suck in the NFL.


    How about Le'veon Bell? He's from Michigan State. Then there's Tevin Coleman from Indiana. James White is contributing for Pats. He's from Wisconsin. Plenty of Big 10 backs that have not "sucked" in NFL.


    For every James White I can name a Ron Dayne, for every Levon Bell there is a TJ Duckett. If you want to have the best chance at finding a running back draft them from the big 12 or SEC. Big Ten running backs don’t do very well in the NFL, in fact the big ten is the all time first round running back bust champion and it is not even close.
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Re: Saquon Barkley
Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:30 am
  • sdog1981 wrote:
    hawkfan68 wrote:
    sdog1981 wrote:
    Maulbert wrote:

    Since Curt Warner played, D.J. Dozier, Blair Thomas, Ki-Jana Carter, and Curtis Enis have all been first round picks from Penn St. and have been complete and utter busts. Only Larry Johnson has had a decent career, but even he flamed out in the end.


    That is what I was saying. Zek Elliot was the first big ten running back to lead the NFL in rushing since 1974 so yeah Big Ten running backs tend to suck in the NFL.


    How about Le'veon Bell? He's from Michigan State. Then there's Tevin Coleman from Indiana. James White is contributing for Pats. He's from Wisconsin. Plenty of Big 10 backs that have not "sucked" in NFL.


    For every James White I can name a Ron Dayne, for every Levon Bell there is a TJ Duckett. If you want to have the best chance at finding a running back draft them from the big 12 or SEC. Big Ten running backs don’t do very well in the NFL, in fact the big ten is the all time first round running back bust champion and it is not even close.


    You're right. However, your argument works in reverse too. For every Owen Gill there's Zeke Elliott, etc. I could search and find plenty of top backs out of Big 10. That's all I was saying.
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Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:00 am
  • hawkfan68 wrote:
    You're right. However, your argument works in reverse too. For every Owen Gill there's Zeke Elliott, etc. I could search and find plenty of top backs out of Big 10. That's all I was saying.


    No, you will not. Take all the time you need. I was shocked to find out how few big ten running backs are in the hall of fame. Rember the Big Ten conference is older than the NFL so they have been on the ground floor of the NFL and you know when the last time a Big Ten running made the Hall? 1963 no joke Bronko Nagurski who played in the 40's was the last Big Ten running back to make the hall of fame. Now, this was during an era of teams running the ball every down and the big ten could not produce any players on the all-time top rushing lists. You don't find a Big Ten running back on the NFL's all-time rushing list until 27th and That was Eddie George. I was shocked too.
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Re: Saquon Barkley
Tue Oct 03, 2017 2:22 pm
  • sdog1981 wrote:
    hawkfan68 wrote:
    You're right. However, your argument works in reverse too. For every Owen Gill there's Zeke Elliott, etc. I could search and find plenty of top backs out of Big 10. That's all I was saying.


    No, you will not. Take all the time you need. I was shocked to find out how few big ten running backs are in the hall of fame. Rember the Big Ten conference is older than the NFL so they have been on the ground floor of the NFL and you know when the last time a Big Ten running made the Hall? 1963 no joke Bronko Nagurski who played in the 40's was the last Big Ten running back to make the hall of fame. Now, this was during an era of teams running the ball every down and the big ten could not produce any players on the all-time top rushing lists. You don't find a Big Ten running back on the NFL's all-time rushing list until 27th and That was Eddie George. I was shocked too.


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Re: Saquon Barkley
Tue Oct 03, 2017 6:54 pm
  • sdog1981 wrote:Never trust a running back who played in a spread offense. That rule is only followed by never draft a Penn State running back.


    Not a fan of Carlson or Zeke Elliot?
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Re: Saquon Barkley
Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:51 pm
  • CPHawk wrote:
    sdog1981 wrote:Never trust a running back who played in a spread offense. That rule is only followed by never draft a Penn State running back.


    Not a fan of Carlson or Zeke Elliot?


    Seriously dude? scroll up and read the conversation and who is Carlson? If you are talking about Chris Carson he has less than 50 NFL carries, so we can pick up that argument in 2020 after he comes back healthy.
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Re: Saquon Barkley
Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:03 pm
  • sdog1981 wrote:
    CPHawk wrote:
    sdog1981 wrote:Never trust a running back who played in a spread offense. That rule is only followed by never draft a Penn State running back.


    Not a fan of Carlson or Zeke Elliot?


    Seriously dude? scroll up and read the conversation and who is Carlson? If you are talking about Chris Carson he has less than 50 NFL carries, so we can pick up that argument in 2020 after he comes back healthy.


    Really dude? You said never trust a RB from a spread. I could name 20+ solid RB in the nfl from spread O.

    Barkley is going to be a stud, regardless of what kind of O he plays in.
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Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:21 pm
  • CPHawk wrote:
    sdog1981 wrote:
    CPHawk wrote:
    sdog1981 wrote:Never trust a running back who played in a spread offense. That rule is only followed by never draft a Penn State running back.


    Not a fan of Carlson or Zeke Elliot?


    Seriously dude? scroll up and read the conversation and who is Carlson? If you are talking about Chris Carson he has less than 50 NFL carries, so we can pick up that argument in 2020 after he comes back healthy.


    Really dude? You said never trust a RB from a spread. I could name 20+ solid RB in the nfl from spread O.

    Barkley is going to be a stud, regardless of what kind of O he plays in.



    At this point, we would have to attempt to define who did and did not play in a spread offense and close it resembles Penn States offense. That aside list 20 spread running backs that you would be willing to spend a first-round pick on.
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Re: Saquon Barkley
Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:24 pm
  • sdog1981 wrote:
    WmHBonney wrote:
    sdog1981 wrote:Never trust a running back who played in a spread offense. That rule is only followed by never draft a Penn State running back.


    Not a Curt Warner fan? Or was that before your time?



    It's not 1983. So the list of Penn State trash since Warner

    DJ Dozier 1987
    Blair Thomas 1990 2nd overall
    Ki-Jana Carter 1995 1st overall
    Curtis Enis 1998 5th overall

    Big Ten running backs don't do very well in the NFL. For every Eddie George and Zek Eliot, there are about 10 more Ron Dayne's


    When were we talking about Big 10 RBs? You said, "never draft a Penn State RB". You didn't stipulate since 1983...or whatever. I pointed out a PSU RB that the 'Hawks drafted that turned out OK. Never say never.
    Barring injury, Saquon will be the first RB taken in next year's draft. He is better than any RB currently on the 'Hawks roster. Flame away.
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Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:39 pm
  • WmHBonney wrote:
    When were we talking about Big 10 RBs? You said, "never draft a Penn State RB". You didn't stipulate since 1983...or whatever. I pointed out a PSU RB that the 'Hawks drafted that turned out OK. Never say never.
    Barring injury, Saquon will be the first RB taken in next year's draft. He is better than any RB currently on the 'Hawks roster. Flame away.



    Those are two different topics.

    The Penn State bust tradition goes back to the 70's too John Cappelletti was a bust at the 11th pick. I don't know what they do in State College PA, but for whatever reason, it leads to bad results in the NFL.

    As for Barkley and the Seahawks backfield? We don't know, but I do know before Rawles got hurt he had a 200-yard rushing game twice and had a 160 rushing game in the playoffs. Barkley has been shut down by teams like Indiana, Pittsburgh, Michigan, Maryland, and Georgia. His career is very confusing take the Iowa game, for instance, he had 300 yards of total and they almost lost. Then Penn State beats down Indiana and he is held to under 60 yards rushing. Take Ezekiel Elliott, for instance, that guy shredded the top defensive units in college football. Barkley has not done that and that is the Ron Dayne warning flag.
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Re: Saquon Barkley
Fri Oct 06, 2017 6:20 pm
  • Scenario:

    Saquon Barkley available to Seahawks.

    Seahawks end up picking Defensive End

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Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:17 pm
  • TheLegendOfBoom wrote:Scenario:

    Saquon Barkley available to Seahawks.

    Seahawks end up picking Defensive End

    Pete Carroll: "We've been looking for a player like this a long time..."




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Re: Saquon Barkley
Sun Oct 29, 2017 11:37 am
  • Saquon Barkley put up a red flag after getting completely shut down by Ohio State. Is Barkley good or is Barkley good because of the easy running lanes spread offenses can create? He was also shut down by Indiana and Pittsburgh.
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Re: Saquon Barkley
Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:05 pm
  • I was 100% on board with a Julio Jones like trade to land Fournette. Even more on board with that for Saquon. He's absolutely incredible.
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Mon Oct 30, 2017 1:12 pm
  • sdog1981 wrote:Saquon Barkley put up a red flag after getting completely shut down by Ohio State. Is Barkley good or is Barkley good because of the easy running lanes spread offenses can create? He was also shut down by Indiana and Pittsburgh.


    One game does not bring a red flag.
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Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:28 pm
  • Hasselbeck wrote:
    sdog1981 wrote:Saquon Barkley put up a red flag after getting completely shut down by Ohio State. Is Barkley good or is Barkley good because of the easy running lanes spread offenses can create? He was also shut down by Indiana and Pittsburgh.


    One game does not bring a red flag.



    I mentioned three games this season. He has had others in 2016 and 2015, the guy gets shut down when he plays top talent. Ezekiel Elliott performed at a high level against all levels of competition.
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Re: Saquon Barkley
Sat Nov 04, 2017 7:46 pm
  • Shut down for a fourth game. RED FLAGS ARE FLYING
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Re: Saquon Barkley
Sun Nov 05, 2017 3:13 am
  • sdog1981 wrote:Shut down for a fourth game. RED FLAGS ARE FLYING

    He can flush his Heisman down the toilet..The thing doesn't mean much anymore anyway.
    Johnnie Footbull took care of that :lol:
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