Ronald Jones II

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https://youtu.be/D4YB4O9OR9c

Of all the backs in the draft this year (outside of Barkley) this guy stands out. He is reportedly 210. A little light for the hawks but would love to see them ignore it and draft him.
 

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ImTheScientist":bilehjrn said:
https://youtu.be/D4YB4O9OR9c

Of all the backs in the draft this year (outside of Barkley) this guy stands out. He is reportedly 210. A little light for the hawks but would love to see them ignore it and draft him.


+1000 or Penny
 
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ImTheScientist":1p2117yv said:
https://youtu.be/D4YB4O9OR9c

Of all the backs in the draft this year (outside of Barkley) this guy stands out. He is reportedly 210. A little light for the hawks but would love to see them ignore it and draft him.

He is listed at 200 and had to bulk up his senior year to get to that weight. It may have affected his speed also as he is now listed as a projected 4:55-40.

Don't get me wrong, I really liked him at times but I'm not sure he is the big power back we are looking for.

"Ronald Jones II*, RB, USC Height: 6-0. Weight: 200. Projected 40 Time: 4.55. Projected Round (2018): 2-3. 1/13/18: Jones ran really well for USC in 2017, showing more decisiveness and displaying more power after gaining weight ..."

http://walterfootball.com/draft2018RB.php
 

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Ronald Jones is going to be very good for some team. He can get very skinny between the tackles and pick up positive yardage. Almost always makes first guy miss. Will not be caught by many defenders, even in NFL.

I love the guy in the third.
 

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DomeHawk":lasbdo76 said:
ImTheScientist":lasbdo76 said:
https://youtu.be/D4YB4O9OR9c

Of all the backs in the draft this year (outside of Barkley) this guy stands out. He is reportedly 210. A little light for the hawks but would love to see them ignore it and draft him.

He is listed at 200 and had to bulk up his senior year to get to that weight. It may have affected his speed also as he is now listed as a projected 4:55-40.

Don't get me wrong, I really liked him at times but I'm not sure he is the big power back we are looking for.

"Ronald Jones II*, RB, USC Height: 6-0. Weight: 200. Projected 40 Time: 4.55. Projected Round (2018): 2-3. 1/13/18: Jones ran really well for USC in 2017, showing more decisiveness and displaying more power after gaining weight ..."

http://walterfootball.com/draft2018RB.php

Tape tells a very, very different story regarding his speed. Former track runner.
 

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Looked plenty fast to me . The only defender to catch him as far as I could tell was #10 from UCLA. Maybe he's one of these guys like Emmett Smith that has "football speed."
He's listed as 6" tall, he should be able to carry a few more pounds
 
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Maelstrom787":1hn4sh4x said:
DomeHawk":1hn4sh4x said:
ImTheScientist":1hn4sh4x said:
https://youtu.be/D4YB4O9OR9c

Of all the backs in the draft this year (outside of Barkley) this guy stands out. He is reportedly 210. A little light for the hawks but would love to see them ignore it and draft him.

He is listed at 200 and had to bulk up his senior year to get to that weight. It may have affected his speed also as he is now listed as a projected 4:55-40.

Don't get me wrong, I really liked him at times but I'm not sure he is the big power back we are looking for.

"Ronald Jones II*, RB, USC Height: 6-0. Weight: 200. Projected 40 Time: 4.55. Projected Round (2018): 2-3. 1/13/18: Jones ran really well for USC in 2017, showing more decisiveness and displaying more power after gaining weight ..."

http://walterfootball.com/draft2018RB.php

Tape tells a very, very different story regarding his speed. Former track runner.

The Combine will reveal what his true speed is. What concerned me was that he was listed as a 4.41 runner coming into college at 185 lbs and now is projected to be 4.55 at 200 lbs. Another thing to always consider is RB's from upper-tier schools run behind 4 and 5-star linemen. We shall see.
 

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DomeHawk":1xa5sedc said:
Maelstrom787":1xa5sedc said:
DomeHawk":1xa5sedc said:
ImTheScientist":1xa5sedc said:
https://youtu.be/D4YB4O9OR9c

Of all the backs in the draft this year (outside of Barkley) this guy stands out. He is reportedly 210. A little light for the hawks but would love to see them ignore it and draft him.

He is listed at 200 and had to bulk up his senior year to get to that weight. It may have affected his speed also as he is now listed as a projected 4:55-40.

Don't get me wrong, I really liked him at times but I'm not sure he is the big power back we are looking for.

"Ronald Jones II*, RB, USC Height: 6-0. Weight: 200. Projected 40 Time: 4.55. Projected Round (2018): 2-3. 1/13/18: Jones ran really well for USC in 2017, showing more decisiveness and displaying more power after gaining weight ..."

http://walterfootball.com/draft2018RB.php

Tape tells a very, very different story regarding his speed. Former track runner.

The Combine will reveal what his true speed is. What concerned me was that he was listed as a 4.41 runner coming into college at 185 lbs and now is projected to be 4.55 at 200 lbs. Another thing to always consider is RB's from upper-tier schools run behind 4 and 5-star linemen. We shall see.

Walterfootball is not an expert and his projections are nothing but pure guesswork.
 
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Maelstrom787":u4tgttoj said:
DomeHawk":u4tgttoj said:
Maelstrom787":u4tgttoj said:
DomeHawk":u4tgttoj said:
He is listed at 200 and had to bulk up his senior year to get to that weight. It may have affected his speed also as he is now listed as a projected 4:55-40.

Don't get me wrong, I really liked him at times but I'm not sure he is the big power back we are looking for.

"Ronald Jones II*, RB, USC Height: 6-0. Weight: 200. Projected 40 Time: 4.55. Projected Round (2018): 2-3. 1/13/18: Jones ran really well for USC in 2017, showing more decisiveness and displaying more power after gaining weight ..."

http://walterfootball.com/draft2018RB.php

Tape tells a very, very different story regarding his speed. Former track runner.

The Combine will reveal what his true speed is. What concerned me was that he was listed as a 4.41 runner coming into college at 185 lbs and now is projected to be 4.55 at 200 lbs. Another thing to always consider is RB's from upper-tier schools run behind 4 and 5-star linemen. We shall see.

Walterfootball is not an expert and his projections are nothing but pure guesswork.

Perhaps not, but I suspect they are privy to more information than you are AND the simple fact that they wrote "projected" 40-time is admitting that they are guessing. That does not mean that it is "pure" guesswork however.

He may turn out to be the greatest pro running back of all time for all I know, all I am saying is that he needs to carry more weight to be the prototypical size running back that every pro team is looking for AND if that affects his speed significantly it will hurt his status. Not every athlete's frame carries weight well.

Like I said, the combine, also not perfect, will tell a lot more about him. I think running back is one of the hardest positions to evaluate.
 

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ImTheScientist":1ydeuct1 said:
https://youtu.be/D4YB4O9OR9c

Of all the backs in the draft this year (outside of Barkley) this guy stands out. He is reportedly 210. A little light for the hawks but would love to see them ignore it and draft him.

He absolutely stands out. He can bowl people over, but doesn't go out of his way to do so. He reminds me a little bit of Chris Carson Lite. Powerful, athletic runner that can carry a team (when healthy).

Chris Carson can be a 1200+ a year running back. Add some receiving yards, and I see him as capable of 1,500+ yards from scrimmage.
 

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I would much rather have Penny but I wouldn't be upset if they took him so long as Penny was not on the board when they did.
 

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TwistedHusky":ougamp4b said:
I would much rather have Penny but I wouldn't be upset if they took him so long as Penny was not on the board when they did.

It's a toss up for me. We have McKissic, but Penny, imho, is much better.


The part that makes it so difficult for me, is Penney's former team mate, Donnel Pumphrey, was inactive at times for the Eagles. Yet Pumphrey had great stats in 2016, so good that Philadelphia traded up in the 4th round to pick him.

"The Eagles traded up to acquire Pumphrey in the fourth round of April's NFL Draft and was the only player the team chose at the position.

Prior to suffering the injury during practice, Pumphrey was inactive for Week 1 against the Washington Redskins, with rookie fourth-round pick Corey Clement was active for the game and made a special teams tackle.

During the preseason, Pumphrey logged 26 carries for 49 yards, and caught 13 passes for 72 yards. "


http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2017 ... n_ham.html

But, again, I think Penney is a better prospect that Pumphrey. And even though some think that San Diego State's scheme pumps up their RB stats, I don't think that's completely accurate. I think both of these guys are a talented pair, on a good team, similar to Thurman Thomas and Barry Sanders (except not on that level).


My love for Ronald Jones is his power, and the level of fatigue he will inflict on opposing defenses. Another player, imho, that he bears a resembleance to is Arizona's David Johnson. (Ever notice how some of the most talented players have the most "plain" names?). "DJ" is a little bigger, but I believe they both have running and receiving skills.

Tough choice, but I imagine the board will dictate which one is available to us. And Rashard Penney will likely be the better value because of where he will fall in the draft.
 

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My Top 5 RBs:
#1 Saquon Barkley
#2 Derrius Guice
#3 Sony Michel
#4 Myles Gaskin (if he declares)
#5 Ronald Jones

If Gaskin returns for his senior year, then I would squeeze Rashaad Penny in at #5. I have Royce Freeman behind them.
 

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hawknation2018":39oj8f0z said:
My Top 5 RBs:
#1 Saquon Barkley
#2 Derrius Guice
#3 Sony Michel
#4 Myles Gaskin (if he declares)
#5 Ronald Jones

If Gaskin returns for his senior year, then I would squeeze Rashaad Penny in at #5. I have Royce Freeman behind them.

Gaskin is returning for his senior year.
 
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hawkman":2x05tx10 said:
hawknation2018":2x05tx10 said:
My Top 5 RBs:
#1 Saquon Barkley
#2 Derrius Guice
#3 Sony Michel
#4 Myles Gaskin (if he declares)
#5 Ronald Jones

If Gaskin returns for his senior year, then I would squeeze Rashaad Penny in at #5. I have Royce Freeman behind them.

Gaskin is returning for his senior year.

Gaskin might have a monumental year but he doesn't fit the prototypical power-back PC/JS are looking for.
 

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DomeHawk":9vcwjkq3 said:
hawkman":9vcwjkq3 said:
hawknation2018":9vcwjkq3 said:
My Top 5 RBs:
#1 Saquon Barkley
#2 Derrius Guice
#3 Sony Michel
#4 Myles Gaskin (if he declares)
#5 Ronald Jones

If Gaskin returns for his senior year, then I would squeeze Rashaad Penny in at #5. I have Royce Freeman behind them.

Gaskin is returning for his senior year.

Gaskin might have a monumental year but he doesn't fit the prototypical power-back PC/JS are looking for.

Completely agree.
 
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