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  • Josh Rosen’s star is fading of late, what if he slides all the way to 18th? Remember Aaron Rogers and how he was drafted by Packers?

    It would so ideal for us? Sit and learn from Russ then take over in 2 years? Sure would achieve Pete’s wish of putting pressure on Rush, and good trade value even if we keep Russ.


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  • toffee wrote:Josh Rosen’s star is fading of late, what if he slides all the way to 18th? Remember Aaron Rogers and how he was drafted by Packers?

    It would so ideal for us? Sit and learn from Russ then take over in 2 years? Sure would achieve Pete’s wish of putting pressure on Rush, and good trade value even if we keep Russ.


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  • What is he going to learn from RW?He can't bail,spin,run and sandlot.
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  • If AZ doesn't trade up to grab a QB there is no way he falls past them if they stay put
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  • toffee wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/forward.com/culture/398513/is-the-nfls-anti-semitism-hurting-josh-rosens-draft-stock/%3Fgamp

    These guys are predicting Rosen at 15th. And he is still fading so 18th is possible.


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    From your article, it sounds like he wants to be a SJW just as much as he wants to play football. What could go wrong?
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  • replicant wrote:
    toffee wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/forward.com/culture/398513/is-the-nfls-anti-semitism-hurting-josh-rosens-draft-stock/%3Fgamp

    These guys are predicting Rosen at 15th. And he is still fading so 18th is possible.


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    From your article, it sounds like he wants to be a SJW just as much as he wants to play football. What could go wrong?


    He could be a more talented Kaepernick with Aaron Roger-ish upside.


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  • I'd trade down with a qb needy team looking to jump up to get him.
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  • If he slides to 18, I doubt another team will call our bluff and trade up for him with us. You might have to take him, get the leverage, and then trade him if the plan is to trade back.

    Detroit at 20 just before Cincy anf Buff is the spot to be if he slides.
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  • I've watched him since he was in high school and have seen him play in person a couple times. I don't think he's that good. Erratic accuracy, injury prone, and he's been perceived as an entitled jerk for a long time. In HS, he posted his own highlight reel on youtube. The only problem was he included multiple plays where his receivers dropped balls. That's a douche move. I heard that's why Stanford never offered him a scholarship.
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  • His Dad was in the running to be the Surgeon general when Obama was in office. Learned that today.
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  • Tinymac2 wrote:If he slides to 18, I doubt another team will call our bluff and trade up for him with us. You might have to take him, get the leverage, and then trade him if the plan is to trade back.

    Detroit at 20 just before Cincy anf Buff is the spot to be if he slides.


    I tend to agree. That said, quarterbacks don't last. There are at least 5 teams picking after the Seahawks that will be taking a hard look at Rosen should he fall, and everyone in the NFL knows the Hawks will trade down. If a team really wants Rosen will they be willing to wait until pick 20 to see if he lasts, knowing that someone will likely be jumping up to 18? Or to 19 with the Cowboys who I'm sure woudn't be opposed to a move down for more picks. It's a risk that I don't think Rosen believers will want to take.

    Of course, i don't think this scenario ever plays out anyways. Rosen isn't getting out of the top 10.
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  • 2_0_6 wrote:His Dad was in the running to be the Surgeon general when Obama was in office. Learned that today.


    Being a rich kid or from a privileged background was one strike against Rosen. The other strike was being a liberal and vocal about it. His stock’s sinking fast as teams view him as a Kaepernick in the making.

    He is unsellable to local audiences for teams in red states.


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  • toffee wrote:
    2_0_6 wrote:His Dad was in the running to be the Surgeon general when Obama was in office. Learned that today.


    Being a rich kid or from a privileged background was one strike against Rosen. The other strike was being a liberal and vocal about it. His stock’s sinking fast as teams view him as a Kaepernick in the making.

    He is unsellable to local audiences for teams in red states.


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    I was in San Diego last week and listened to some sports radio, and lots of people down there think he might slide to 17 where the Chargers would take him./
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  • 2_0_6 wrote:
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    2_0_6 wrote:His Dad was in the running to be the Surgeon general when Obama was in office. Learned that today.


    Being a rich kid or from a privileged background was one strike against Rosen. The other strike was being a liberal and vocal about it. His stock’s sinking fast as teams view him as a Kaepernick in the making.

    He is unsellable to local audiences for teams in red states.


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    I was in San Diego last week and listened to some sports radio, and lots of people down there think he might slide to 17 where the Chargers would take him./


    It would be ideal for Chargers and Rosen, I think it would work equally well for us if we can pick him up at 18. We will see a hungrier Russ, instantly.


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  • toffee wrote:
    2_0_6 wrote:
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    2_0_6 wrote:His Dad was in the running to be the Surgeon general when Obama was in office. Learned that today.


    Being a rich kid or from a privileged background was one strike against Rosen. The other strike was being a liberal and vocal about it. His stock’s sinking fast as teams view him as a Kaepernick in the making.

    He is unsellable to local audiences for teams in red states.


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    I was in San Diego last week and listened to some sports radio, and lots of people down there think he might slide to 17 where the Chargers would take him./


    It would be ideal for Chargers and Rosen, I think it would work equally well for us if we can pick him up at 18. We will see a hungrier Russ, instantly.


    Russ already works his ass off to be the best QB he can be. I don't think his "hunger" level needs adjusting, nor do I think bringing in Josh Rosen would change anything in regards to his "hunger" level. Despite the false narrative around here that Russ has gotten lazy and complacent and distracted and whatever other BS people come up with, I believe Russ is still highly motivated and is still one of the best QBs in the NFL and works as hard as anyone to remain one of the best.

    I'm still waiting for someone to show me a single shred of actual evidence, not someones opinion, but actual evidence, that Russ needs to get "hungrier" or whatever.
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  • Sure, draft him, develop, and trade to a New York, California, or South Florida team. (*MOD EDIT TO REMOVE POLITICAL REFERENCES*) So he thinks a lot of himself? What successful QB doesn’t. My only hesitation might be that this office hasn’t faired well when it comes to trades.
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  • We need to try to bring in guys that can help the team this year, not use our only pick before the middle of the 4th round to draft a guy we are hoping becomes the QB of the future in a few years or we can trade for a pick or 2 in a few years.

    In our current situation, this is a terrible idea.
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  • If this was one of the last four drafts I’d agree with you but this time around we have many holes to fill. Maybe we could draft him and trade him to a team that needs a QB? And I don’t understand why you blanked out the word liberal from my post above? His attitude about politics is clearly referenced in the linked article and it’s no secret that the markets I named are dominated by liberal leaning politics. According to the article that is important to Rosen.
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  • Chapow wrote:
    toffee wrote:
    2_0_6 wrote:
    toffee wrote:
    Being a rich kid or from a privileged background was one strike against Rosen. The other strike was being a liberal and vocal about it. His stock’s sinking fast as teams view him as a Kaepernick in the making.

    He is unsellable to local audiences for teams in red states.


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    I was in San Diego last week and listened to some sports radio, and lots of people down there think he might slide to 17 where the Chargers would take him./


    It would be ideal for Chargers and Rosen, I think it would work equally well for us if we can pick him up at 18. We will see a hungrier Russ, instantly.


    Russ already works his ass off to be the best QB he can be. I don't think his "hunger" level needs adjusting, nor do I think bringing in Josh Rosen would change anything in regards to his "hunger" level. Despite the false narrative around here that Russ has gotten lazy and complacent and distracted and whatever other BS people come up with, I believe Russ is still highly motivated and is still one of the best QBs in the NFL and works as hard as anyone to remain one of the best.

    I'm still waiting for someone to show me a single shred of actual evidence, not someones opinion, but actual evidence, that Russ needs to get "hungrier" or whatever
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    Last seasons 3 quarters of not scoring much and quick 3 and outs isn't enough to say he needs to get back
    to being how he once was?He used to be all in to football before he decided to be more out there with goals
    of making bank to buy a team in future and such.
    That takes away from his time of being the best QB he could be in my opinion.
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  • Nothing to do with politics. I just don't think he's that reliable.
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  • hes not even legit back up material let alone a future starter. we have much bigger needs than Kappernick Jr.
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  • I would not be a fan of picking him, at all... but he is my #1 quarterback out of the first round prospects this year.
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  • So the two New York teams passed on Rosen, he’s in free fall right now.


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  • Does Miami dump Tannyhill for Rosen? If not to Miami then maybe He goes to AZ
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  • He didn't progress in college, at all.
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  • Hope Arizona takes him.
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  • He has a very punchable face, reminds me of Glennon.
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  • chris98251 wrote:He has a very punchable face, reminds me of Glennon.


    Arizona with another erratic, injury prone QB? The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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  • You don't want Rosen on your team. Trust me
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  • hawknation2018 wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:He has a very punchable face, reminds me of Glennon.


    Arizona with another erratic, injury prone QB? The more things change, the more they stay the same.


    Yeah, I was thinking that AZ would be wary of another fragile QB.
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