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  • Well, I guess it takes an idiot to want to wear ugly purple Reebok uniforms and play for a team that never wins big games, so I guess when you start with idiots it makes it easier to progress?
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  • JSeahawks wrote:Well, I guess it takes an idiot to want to wear ugly purple Reebok uniforms and play for a team that never wins big games, so I guess when you start with idiots it makes it easier to progress?


    So bitter...
    In the old days the other O-linemen would have just taken Ifedi out back and beat the crap out of him.
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  • DomeHawk wrote:
    JSeahawks wrote:Well, I guess it takes an idiot to want to wear ugly purple Reebok uniforms and play for a team that never wins big games, so I guess when you start with idiots it makes it easier to progress?


    So bitter...


    I'd be willing to bet every Oregon v Washington game in the future that i'm the least bitter, most laid back person in the world that you've never met. I was making a joke. Pretty tough to be bitter about something you couldnt care less about. APR? No idea what it is, and dont care.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:
    DomeHawk wrote:
    JSeahawks wrote:Well, I guess it takes an idiot to want to wear ugly purple Reebok uniforms and play for a team that never wins big games, so I guess when you start with idiots it makes it easier to progress?


    So bitter...


    I'd be willing to bet every Oregon v Washington game in the future that i'm the least bitter, most laid back person in the world that you've never met. I was making a joke. Pretty tough to be bitter about something you couldnt care less about. APR? No idea what it is, and dont care.


    Right.
    In the old days the other O-linemen would have just taken Ifedi out back and beat the crap out of him.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:Well, I guess it takes an idiot to want to wear ugly purple Reebok uniforms and play for a team that never wins big games, so I guess when you start with idiots it makes it easier to progress?


    No thats color coordination, I know thats a big word for you, but it's better then having a 64 color Crayola box in fron of Uncle Phil and then blindfold him and pick the next Oregon Uniform combination.
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  • That Academic score is important.

    Why?

    Because 90% of college players will never make it in the NFL.

    So you're actually prepping everyone who fails at football for life if you are making sure their academic game is at least passable.

    That's why you have kids who attended some SEC schools running with gangs again, and back on the streets, or even homeless. Because some douchebag booster decided "screw our academics we are all about football".

    If that's the case, if we really don't care about Academics, then college football should be flushed and we can just have minor league football and we can actually pay the athletes.

    That way, no "Oregon" or "Washington" or "USC" glory at all. That would be acceptable.

    But if we are going to actually give scholarships and promote education for the "student athlete" and not pay them, then academics need to matter.

    Quite frankly, Academic scores should directly influence the number of scholarships you can give out. Meaning, the higher your academics and the more players pass, the more scholarships you get as a school. That would change the game right there.

    In any case, I don't think JS actually believes what he just said. He's just quacking and trolling. I can understand, given the way some Husky fans around here talk. ;)
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  • The_Z_Man wrote:In any case, I don't think JS actually believes what he just said. He's just quacking and trolling. I can understand, given the way some Husky fans around here talk. ;)


    Well, i was trolling in making fun of the uniforms and saying a player would be an idiot to go to UW, but Actually I was being 100% genuine with what I said about not caring at all about this. As long as they're academically eligible, I dont care at all about how they're doing in the classroom.

    And after reading up on APR and how its actually calculated I care even less about it. It has nothing to do with getting good grades. Its all about keeping athletes on campus for 4 years. So if a school sends a guy to the NFL after three seasons to make millions of dollars they get dinged on the APR.

    Here's how they come up with it:

    Each student-athlete receiving athletically related financial aid earns one point for staying in school and one point for being academically eligible.
    A team’s total points are divided by points possible and then multiplied by 1,000 to equal the team’s Academic Progress Rate.


    http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/res ... -explained

    So it has nothing to do with getting A's, or doing well in school, you just have to stay academically eligible (which they always do, i cant remember the last time a duck, or any pac 12 athlete for that matter, was academically ineligible) and stay for 4 years. Ducks have had a lot of attrition lately, a lot of transfers due to coaching change or guys being buried on the depth chart, a few guys medically retiring and leaving school, a few getting kicked off the team for disciplinary reasons and leaving school, so those all bring down their APR and have absolutely nothing to do with how they're doing in the classroom.

    So in the next years ratings UW will get dinged for Camilo Eiffler even though as far as I know he's doing fine in the classroom, and will continue his education at another university. And they will get dinged for Vita Vea (unless he redshirted and already graduated, i dont know if he did). Does that mean they're doing a less great job academically? No. Its meaningless.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:
    Well, i was trolling in making fun of the uniforms and saying a player would be an idiot to go to UW, but Actually I was being 100% genuine with what I said about not caring at all about this. As long as they're academically eligible, I dont care at all about how they're doing in the classroom.

    And after reading up on APR and how its actually calculated I care even less about it. It has nothing to do with getting good grades. Its all about keeping athletes on campus for 4 years. So if a school sends a guy to the NFL after three seasons to make millions of dollars they get dinged on the APR.

    Here's how they come up with it:

    Each student-athlete receiving athletically related financial aid earns one point for staying in school and one point for being academically eligible.
    A team’s total points are divided by points possible and then multiplied by 1,000 to equal the team’s Academic Progress Rate.


    http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/res ... -explained

    So it has nothing to do with getting A's, or doing well in school, you just have to stay academically eligible (which they always do, i cant remember the last time a duck, or any pac 12 athlete for that matter, was academically ineligible) and stay for 4 years. Ducks have had a lot of attrition lately, a lot of transfers due to coaching change or guys being buried on the depth chart, a few guys medically retiring and leaving school, a few getting kicked off the team for disciplinary reasons and leaving school, so those all bring down their APR and have absolutely nothing to do with how they're doing in the classroom.

    So in the next years ratings UW will get dinged for Camilo Eiffler even though as far as I know he's doing fine in the classroom, and will continue his education at another university. And they will get dinged for Vita Vea (unless he redshirted and already graduated, i dont know if he did). Does that mean they're doing a less great job academically? No. Its meaningless.


    Ah, I see what you're saying here.... yea that's bogus. Graduation rates and GPA are what matters, IMO. Like what Bruce Irvin just did -- that means something.
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  • JSeahawks wrote: And after reading up on APR and how its actually calculated I care even less about it. It has nothing to do with getting good grades. Its all about keeping athletes on campus for 4 years. So if a school sends a guy to the NFL after three seasons to make millions of dollars they get dinged on the APR.


    Interesting, dinged? Seeing as how the Huskies are among the top schools sending players to the NFL early and Oregon the least it just makes UW's progress rates that much better and Oregon's that much worse.

    Thank you for that.
    In the old days the other O-linemen would have just taken Ifedi out back and beat the crap out of him.
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  • Yup. APR is a joke and just a show of pretending to care. Another example of the execution of a good concept showing the motives aren't what they want us to think.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:
    The_Z_Man wrote:In any case, I don't think JS actually believes what he just said. He's just quacking and trolling. I can understand, given the way some Husky fans around here talk. ;)


    Well, i was trolling in making fun of the uniforms and saying a player would be an idiot to go to UW, but Actually I was being 100% genuine with what I said about not caring at all about this. As long as they're academically eligible, I dont care at all about how they're doing in the classroom.

    And after reading up on APR and how its actually calculated I care even less about it. It has nothing to do with getting good grades. Its all about keeping athletes on campus for 4 years. So if a school sends a guy to the NFL after three seasons to make millions of dollars they get dinged on the APR.

    Here's how they come up with it:

    Each student-athlete receiving athletically related financial aid earns one point for staying in school and one point for being academically eligible.
    A team’s total points are divided by points possible and then multiplied by 1,000 to equal the team’s Academic Progress Rate.


    http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/res ... -explained

    So it has nothing to do with getting A's, or doing well in school, you just have to stay academically eligible (which they always do, i cant remember the last time a duck, or any pac 12 athlete for that matter, was academically ineligible) and stay for 4 years. Ducks have had a lot of attrition lately, a lot of transfers due to coaching change or guys being buried on the depth chart, a few guys medically retiring and leaving school, a few getting kicked off the team for disciplinary reasons and leaving school, so those all bring down their APR and have absolutely nothing to do with how they're doing in the classroom.

    So in the next years ratings UW will get dinged for Camilo Eiffler even though as far as I know he's doing fine in the classroom, and will continue his education at another university. And they will get dinged for Vita Vea (unless he redshirted and already graduated, i dont know if he did). Does that mean they're doing a less great job academically? No. Its meaningless.


    Wow! for someone who doesn't care that's quite a post!

    "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." - William Shakespeare
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  • DomeHawk wrote:
    JSeahawks wrote: And after reading up on APR and how its actually calculated I care even less about it. It has nothing to do with getting good grades. Its all about keeping athletes on campus for 4 years. So if a school sends a guy to the NFL after three seasons to make millions of dollars they get dinged on the APR.


    Interesting, dinged? Seeing as how the Huskies are among the top schools sending players to the NFL early and Oregon the least it just makes UW's progress rates that much better and Oregon's that much worse.

    Thank you for that.


    BTW, you are dead wrong,

    "The NCAA does adjust APR, on a student-by-student basis, in two circumstances. One exception that can be made, is for student-athletes who leave prior to graduation, while in good academic standing, to pursue a professional career."

    "Another is for student-athletes who transfer to another school while meeting minimum academic requirements and student-athletes who return to graduate at a later date."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_Progress_Rate
    In the old days the other O-linemen would have just taken Ifedi out back and beat the crap out of him.
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  • Well I stand corrected. Still has absolutely nothing to do with how they’re actually doing in the classroom though. All they have to do is stay eligible, which literally everybody does.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:Well I stand corrected. Still has absolutely nothing to do with how they’re actually doing in the classroom though. All they have to do is stay eligible, which literally everybody does.


    Lol, and how do you stay eligible?
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  • DomeHawk wrote:
    JSeahawks wrote:Well I stand corrected. Still has absolutely nothing to do with how they’re actually doing in the classroom though. All they have to do is stay eligible, which literally everybody does.


    Lol, and how do you stay eligible?



    I have no idea. Straight c’s? No f’s? No clue. I know it must not be very difficult, cuz I can’t remember anybody being ineligible.
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  • The original post just exemplifies that we finally have the coach we were looking for.
    In the old days the other O-linemen would have just taken Ifedi out back and beat the crap out of him.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:
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    JSeahawks wrote:Well I stand corrected. Still has absolutely nothing to do with how they’re actually doing in the classroom though. All they have to do is stay eligible, which literally everybody does.


    Lol, and how do you stay eligible?



    I have no idea. Straight c’s? No f’s? No clue. I know it must not be very difficult, cuz I can’t remember anybody being ineligible.


    Spin, spin, spin:

    "The APR measures how scholarship student-athletes are performing term by term throughout the school year. It is a composite team measurement based upon how individual team members do academically."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_Progress_Rate
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  • I give up. Congratulations on your academics. Yay team! Wake me up when you want to talk football.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:I give up. Congratulations on your academics.


    Thank you.
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