Are we allowed to throw out ideas and opinions of who you want.....or is it waaaaaay too soon.

I'd like to discuss this since I see this season is almost completely shot....even though it's only been 2 games.

Top 5 pick here we come!!!!!

Discuss all you want, but if we turn the tide you may look the fool for your top 5 pick statement.

The worst would be if the team went 7-9 just sitting there in the low teens.

sdog1981 wrote:The worst would be if the team went 7-9 just sitting there in the low teens.

Say it ain't so, man!!!!! That's terrifying!!!

Top 5!!!

Can we finally get a good offensive lineman?!?!

sdog1981 wrote:The worst would be if the team went 7-9 just sitting there in the low teens.

This is exactly whats going to happen at this years end. And its not so bad of a position to be in, we don't have to pay top ten money for a player who fell to us.
Cheers

There should be some really good edge prospects in the low teens and beyond. Sweat, Burns, Polite, Winovich amongst others.

Funny how things change in a few weeks. We're likely 7-9 now at worst assuming we beat 9ers twice, Arizona and Detroit. Other tougher games are at home as well which helps.

What pass rushers should we be looking at? Defensive ends and replacements for KJ?

Possibly a replacement for Baldwin?

Glasgow Seahawk wrote:Funny how things change in a few weeks. We're likely 7-9 now at worst assuming we beat 9ers twice, Arizona and Detroit. Other tougher games are at home as well which helps.

What pass rushers should we be looking at? Defensive ends and replacements for KJ?

Possibly a replacement for Baldwin?

For what reason? We should be replacing Wilson if it's for the reason I think your posting this for, he will be more expensive and we know that Cap comes out of every fans pocket.

Given the amount we pay him and what he means to the team and to our QB this is like saying hey Largent has been here a few years lets unload him.

Ok, here's a player to check out: Texas Tech LB #40 Dokata Allen 6' 1" 235 projected 4th to 6th round, plays both mike and will LB. He has a nose for finding the ball and attacks. Plays both the run and pass, and he stands out around the goal line. Worth checking him out! Cheers

Kaden Smith, TE from stanford
Jonah Williams, OT from Alabama
Zach Allen, DE from Boston College

chris98251 wrote:

Glasgow Seahawk wrote:Funny how things change in a few weeks. We're likely 7-9 now at worst assuming we beat 9ers twice, Arizona and Detroit. Other tougher games are at home as well which helps.

What pass rushers should we be looking at? Defensive ends and replacements for KJ?

Possibly a replacement for Baldwin?

For what reason? We should be replacing Wilson if it's for the reason I think your posting this for, he will be more expensive and we know that Cap comes out of every fans pocket.

Given the amount we pay him and what he means to the team and to our QB this is like saying hey Largent has been here a few years lets unload him.

I don't think it's regarding the cost. His contract basically can't easily be shed before it expires in 2020. Remember he restructured in order to accommodate Sheldon Richardson. So it's no longer a team friendly deal.

I expect it'd be because he'll be 32 when that time comes. Honestly, it's not a horrible notion. Don't think of him as a 'replacement' for Doug. More a successor who happens to learn from one of the best and maybe even form a great triple threat with Baldwin and Lockett.

I would sure rather get a great WR if available than whatever garbage we've gotten in R1/R2 for the last six years because of 'need'. That's a whole different draft philosophy discussion though.

As for the above suggestion -- I didn't see it as trying to force Doug out the door or to try and trade him for picks. More of a realistic nod that continuity of WR talent during the ebb prime years of Wilson is important. And if we wait until we have to have a receiver it's a very low probability that a great one will be available. And given the average time it takes for good WR talent to reach maturity -- planning ahead at that position is wise.

sdog1981 wrote:The worst would be if the team went 7-9 just sitting there in the low teens.

Not necessarily.

Although the draft position isn't ideal, how you achieved that record is crucial.

If you're ascending, with a decent allotment of core players who are coalescing into a strong foundation, then draft position really doesn't matter. Because you already have your core established and you're filling out role players and hopefully getting star talent for down the road.

If you're middling, with no real direction of how to win, or with core players that are ill fitting and more just a collection of talent than a good mix of talent -- that's the worst. There are plenty of teams out there that fit this billing. Rudderless and aimless. Their drafts year to year belie a constipated philosophy of how to win in this league.

Honestly, I still expect us to be around 7-9 or 8-8. But I feel that this team is not looking to create its core. It seems to already have that. The fact that we're not making a lot of picks in this draft is not a huge liability for me. It's deep where we need it. And results aside, it should feel like we've found our identity.

How about receiver this upcoming draft?

N'Keal Harry??? Arizona State.

Good size. Great route runner. Good speed.

Considered top 2 receiver in this draft. If Seattle picks top 16, he can slip to Seattle.

What y'all think??!

You're first round pick this year has to be a pass rusher in my opinion.

TheLegendOfBoom wrote:How about receiver this upcoming draft?

N'Keal Harry??? Arizona State.

Good size. Great route runner. Good speed.

Considered top 2 receiver in this draft. If Seattle picks top 16, he can slip to Seattle.

What y'all think??!

If you're throwing 25 passes by design, then the pick has limited potential at that position.

This is a team that wants to win by running the ball, and by a stifling defense. They don't have the latter. In a draft where defense is loaded it makes little sense to go WR early. Seems like a 'nice to have' pick when you have 'gotta have' needs and a talent pool rich in prospects to fill those needs.

DJrmb wrote:You're first round pick this year has to be a pass rusher in my opinion.

I don't know if there is any validity to this but I've heard this class is predicted to be one of the best drafts in years for passing rushing tackles.

I would be a happy man if we got Rashan Gary DL Michigan in the 1st Rd.

Sox-n-Hawks wrote:Kaden Smith, TE from stanford
Jonah Williams, OT from Alabama
Zach Allen, DE from Boston College

I still stand by this. I would also add Andrew Wingard from Wyoming with ET3 being gone for sure. That kid can BALL!

While WR is a need, I believe the biggest need is on defense. They need LB and Edge Rusher are the two biggest needs. Even if Mychal Kendricks is back next season, they are still short on LB side. The good thing is that this draft is shaping up to be a strong DL draft.

Devin White, LB, LSU
Dakota Allen, LB, Texas Tech
Zach Allen, DE, Boston College
Austin Bryant, DE, Clemson
Clelin Ferrell, DE, Clemson
Josh Allen, DE, Kentucky

For WR, there probably will be a few good receivers in the middle rounds (day 2 or 3) of the draft -
JJ Arcega Whiteside, WR, Stanford
Hakeem Butler, WR, Iowa St
Collin Johnson, WR , Texas

Time to close this thread, we wasted the chance to get a top 5 pick now.

chris98251 wrote:Time to close this thread, we wasted the chance to get a top 5 pick now.

Unless we trade ET3 and KJ to the Browns for their first two draft picks.

My early Seahawk mock draft on first-pick.com -

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 26 (OAK): Harry, NKeal, WR, Arizona State (A-)
Round 2 Pick 23 (WASH): Jackson, Joe, DE, Miami (FL) (A+)
Round 3 Pick 3 (OAK): Johnson, Jaquan, SS, Miami (FL) (A)
Round 3 Pick 18: Gaskin, Myles, RB, Washington (A+)
Round 4 Pick 19: Fuller, Jordan, FS, Ohio State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 19: Joseph, Kendall, ILB, Clemson (A+)
Round 7 Pick 19: Blankenship, Rodrigo, K, Georgia (A+)

Regardless of where we pick I would love to see an edge rusher early or a big time free safety in the mold of ET

Seahawks getting gashed on the outside runs by McCaffrey.

They need to shore up some help on the defensive line.

Taylor Rapp would be great on the back end like a third round pick.

Thompson has shown nothing.

Would love to have Rapp patrolling as Free Safety.

hawkfan68 wrote:My early Seahawk mock draft on first-pick.com -

Your Picks:
Round 1 Pick 26 (OAK): Harry, NKeal, WR, Arizona State (A-)
Round 2 Pick 23 (WASH): Jackson, Joe, DE, Miami (FL) (A+)
Round 3 Pick 3 (OAK): Johnson, Jaquan, SS, Miami (FL) (A)
Round 3 Pick 18: Gaskin, Myles, RB, Washington (A+)
Round 4 Pick 19: Fuller, Jordan, FS, Ohio State (A+)
Round 5 Pick 19: Joseph, Kendall, ILB, Clemson (A+)
Round 7 Pick 19: Blankenship, Rodrigo, K, Georgia (A+)

That ASU WR is not sliding that far lol


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TheLegendOfBoom wrote:Seahawks getting gashed on the outside runs by McCaffrey.

They need to shore up some help on the defensive line.

Taylor Rapp would be great on the back end like a third round pick.

Thompson has shown nothing.

Would love to have Rapp patrolling as Free Safety.

That really disgusted me..Leaving the flat open for easy runs and dink passes.
I would think you add an extra DB and take a linebacker out..My pick would be
Drew Tranquill(ND)Rapp is of the same mold but I think DT is better.

Safety doesn't address pass rush or DT and i'll add O-line all of them have priority over FS and we are talking FS McDougald is playing great football.

Northwest Seahawk wrote:Safety doesn't address pass rush or DT and i'll add O-line all of them have priority over FS and we are talking FS McDougald is playing great football.

Pssst Thompson is Free Safety.

chris98251 wrote:

Northwest Seahawk wrote:Safety doesn't address pass rush or DT and i'll add O-line all of them have priority over FS and we are talking FS McDougald is playing great football.

Pssst Thompson is Free Safety.

Sorry i'm not on draft a FS bandwagon bro, we shouldn't be drafting FS until round 3-7. That's how i see it. FS just isn't a position i would spend a first round draft pick on when we drafted Earl we had two first round picks we don't have that luxury this draft.If i'm not mistaken the defenses biggest issue is giving up to much yards up the middle. We have our problems on the seconadry but i would put alot of that on Griffin I'd go CB before FS.

Northwest Seahawk wrote:

chris98251 wrote:

Northwest Seahawk wrote:Safety doesn't address pass rush or DT and i'll add O-line all of them have priority over FS and we are talking FS McDougald is playing great football.

Pssst Thompson is Free Safety.

Sorry i'm not on draft a FS bandwagon bro, we shouldn't be drafting FS until round 3-7. That's how i see it. FS just isn't a position i would spend a first round draft pick on when we drafted Earl we had two first round picks we don't have that luxury this draft.If i'm not mistaken the defenses biggest issue is giving up to much yards up the middle. We have our problems on the seconadry but i would put alot of that on Griffin I'd go CB before FS.

You say that but according to many when we lost Earl we lost our ability to do Cover 1.

With only 4 picks in the coming draft, a small trade down or two is very likely. Only 4 picks would seem to limit the draft for the Seahawks re-tooling efforts, this may have to be more of a quality over quantity draft, but who can they pick?

My current wish list for the 2019 Seahawks draft follows. I'd expect a small trade down (2-5 spots) in the 1-st round, picking up an early 4-th round pick & possibly a latter small trade down to get a late pick or two.
Seahawks needs (IMO) = DT, EDGE, LB, WR, CB, OL. My own personal favorites are indicated by **.

-----Seahawks 1-st round pick, after a small trade down..one of best DT's needed.. (1 of these MAY be available)
**DT-Gerald Willis III, Miami, 6-3/300 (The most likely of these 3 to be there - late rd-1 -IMO)
-or- DT-Christian Wilkens, Clemson, 6-4/310
-or- DT-Dexter Lawrence, Clemson, 6-3/345

-----Seahawks Rd-3 pick, one of.... (a tentative/will one be there pick here)
** EDGE-D'Andre Walker, Georgia, 6-3/245..one of best EDGE needed..(most likely to be available =?)
-or- EDGE-Jachai Polite, Florida, 6-2/255
-or- EDGE-Brian Burns, Florida St, 6-4/235

-----Seahawks Rd-4 pick (from trade down), one of....
**OLB(SS)-Chase Hansen, Utah, 6-2/222
-or- OLB-Germaine Pratt, N.C. St, 6-2/240
-or- OLB-Paddy Fisher, Northwestern, 6-3/245

-----Seahawks, Rd-4 pick. (native pick.)
**WR-Preston Williams, Colorado St, 6-4/210
-or- WR-Dillon Mitchell, Oregon, 6-2/190, (IF, they go fast slot WR, over a big body WR , then.....)
**WR(slot)-Andy Issabella, UMass, 5-9/186, -or- WR(slot)-Marquise Brown, Oklahoma, 5-10/165 (likely long gone here)

-----Seahawks, Rd-5 pick, one of....
**CB-Bryce Hall, Virginia, 6-1/200 #1 in FCS passes defended (probably not there in Rd-5, the others, more likely)
-or- CB-Derrick Baity, Kentucky, 6-2/180 Baity has Seahawk size, but he may need a year or two to develop.
-or- CB-Montrae Hartage, Northwestern, 6-0/195 Good production, length will be a question answered at combine.

----->Late round (if they get a late pick or two) - or- UDFA's. Any or all of these guys could be targeted -IMO.
**OT-Nate Herbig, Stanford, 6-4/334 -or- OT-Jawaan Taylor, Florida, 6-5/328 = More BIG BEEF for the OL.
--EDGE/OLB-Malik Reed, Nevada, 6-2/250, speed to power bull rush, can also cover, good tools. Developmental?
--OLB-Gary Johnson, Texas, 6-1/220/4.64/40, fast, physical, enforcer, watch at combine/post season, a sleeper.
--OLB-Joe Dineen, Jr., Kansas, 6-2/235, good production, combine/post season #'s needed. Likely Rd-7/UDFA.
--SS-LaDarius Wiley, Vanderbilt, 6-1/210, always around ball, passionate, pretty fast & very aggressive.
--CB-Donnie Lewis, Jr. Tulane, 5-116/195/4.56/50, # 2 on FCS passes defended list, overlooked? underrated?
And lastly:
--WR-Jalen Hurd, Purdue, 6-4/217, Former RB at Tennessee now A WR that MAY drop way down in the draft due to his school and position changes, however, The Baylor staff worked him out pretty extensively. - Hurd squatted more than 500 pounds, ran the 40-yard dash consistently in the 4.4-second range, posted a 40-inch vertical jump and ran 20-yard shuttles of **3.8 and 3.9** seconds. For some context, as cited by coach Hayes, the best vertical jump at this year’s NFL Combine was 41.5 inches and the recent best at the combine in the 20-yard shuttle was 3.81. = A very RAW WR with a boatload of upside, although some will question his motivation and mental makeup, the physical testing at combine will likely give his draft position a boost along with his meetings with coaching staffs. Don't know what round he may go in but could very well end up being a steal.





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