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Bobby Wagner Replacements?
Mon Dec 23, 2019 6:23 pm
  • A couple middle LB's - that "could" be --eventual-- replacements for Wagner in this draft and a couple of guys I'll be watching carefully in post season games & at the combine.

    ILB-Jordyn Brooks, Texas Tech, 6-1/245. - a Rd- 2/3-ish. pick?, He's #6 in FBS in TFL's with 20.
    2019: 11-games, 108-tkls, 66-solo, 20.0-TFL, 3.0-sacks, 12-QBH, 2-FR, 1-FF.
    Career: 46-games, 360-tkls, 224-solo, 32.0-TFL, 6.5-sacks, 26-QBH, 2-INT, 6-PD, 3-FR, 2-FF.
    Brooks is also highly ranked by PFF as a disruptive, sideline to sideline, 3 down LB.

    ILB-Evan Weaver, California, 6-3/245, Perhaps a round-4/5-ish. pick.
    2019: (#1 in FBS in total tackles with 173, 14.4/game.) the next closest tackler has 147, a difference of 25 tackles. His 95 solo tackles is also #1 in FBS. A very busy guy that plays the entire field. 40-time will be very important for him.
    2019: 12-games,173-tkls (14.41/game), 95-solo (7.91/game), 11.0-TFL, 2.5-sacks, 3-PD, 5-QBH, 3-FF.
    Career: 45-games, 402-tkls, 222-solo, 23.5-TFL, 8.5-sacks, 2-INT(1-for TD), 11-PD, 8-QBH, 3-FF.
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Re: Bobby Wagner Replacements?
Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:43 pm
  • thanks for this, Wow, i really like Jordyn Brooks. any idea where he is projected to go?
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Re: Bobby Wagner Replacements?
Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:41 pm
  • ILB-Jordan Brooks, is super physical, ++ active and twitchy. Scouting reports say that even though he is a tackle machine, (by far his greatest asset), there are some concerns about his consistency & mental processing and has an occasional problem disengaging at the point of attack and has had some struggles with staying clean, however he plays at 100% full throttle. He likely may need coaching up on the mental aspects of the game.

    Draft wise, I think he'll be drafted perhaps somewhere in the late round 2 to late round 3 area. The combine will provide more information & could raise his stock a bit if he performs well there. I'd expect that he'll have a decent LB 40 time and if so, PC/JS will like that. Kid has a lot to work with and a good LB coach could improve his game. If the Seahawks draft him, he could very well be in a position to replace one of Wagner/Wright - eventually.
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Re: Bobby Wagner Replacements?
Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:05 pm
  • Can they run a 4.4 40 though, that was Bobby coming out of College and what sold them on the pick, speed.
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Re: Bobby Wagner Replacements?
Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:00 pm
  • Have to think that's what the Barton move was. We traded up to get him after all.

    It may be he's not the guy. I love Brooks, but the stock needed to get him is too much at this time. We're not trying to replace David Hawthorne after all.

    Late round, I'd keep my eye on Patrick Queen in day 3 out of LSU. Very twitchy and has excellent cover ability and quick to read plays. Was dominant in the BCS championship game. He's a bit light -- which may cause him to fall.

    I think of him as a poor man's Telvin Smith from FSU a few years back. Although not quite a slight.

    As it is, I don't think we're likely to take a LB a year after double dipping in a rather mediocre LB pool. Usually we don't do that unless we don't really like the position in the next years' class.

    Given that we passed on many better prospects at positions of greater need in 2019 in order to select Barton:

    OT: Edoga, Evans (Both started this year)
    TE: Dawson Knox (starter)
    S: Quincy WIlliams, Chauncey Gardner-Johnson
    DE: Oshane Ximenes, Maxx Crosby (either would have lead our team in sacks)

    We passed a LOT of talent of imminent need in order to move up for Barton. So our bed is kind of made in that regard. Taking a LB early is essentially doing a 'Maglik Mcdowell/LJ Collier' combo twice.
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Re: Bobby Wagner Replacements?
Wed Jan 15, 2020 3:37 pm
  • I'd be shocked if Evan Weaver runs under a 5
    0 40. Not sure how that guy makes so many plays but he's looks so slow to me.
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Re: Bobby Wagner Replacements?
Wed Jan 15, 2020 4:21 pm
  • Clay Johnson looks great. Projected to run 4.6 which is what Barton ran (4.67). He looks to be a sure tackler and is quick.

    https://youtu.be/D4CMy2oanjQ
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Re: Bobby Wagner Replacements?
Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:06 pm
  • Dante Olson MLB 6'3" 237 Montana Grizzlys. Winner of the Buck Buchanan Award, finished the season with 179 tackles. Plays the run and pass with ez, very good range and power. Should be able to get him in the 3rd or 4th round. I'd love to see him in a Seahawks uniform.

    My pick for the STEEL OF THE DRAFT.
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Re: Bobby Wagner Replacements?
Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:53 am
  • Makil Harrison MLB Ohio st. 6'3" 245 Should be available in the second round.
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Re: Bobby Wagner Replacements?
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:54 am
  • Chawker wrote:Makil Harrison MLB Ohio st. 6'3" 245 Should be available in the second round.



    Yes please..
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Re: Bobby Wagner Replacements?
Sun Jan 26, 2020 9:56 am
  • I hope we don't waste a draft pick on "Bobby Wagner's replacement". We have other priorities.
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Re: Bobby Wagner Replacements?
Sun Jan 26, 2020 4:02 pm
  • Chawker wrote:Makil Harrison MLB Ohio st. 6'3" 245 Should be available in the second round.


    Unfortunately our 2nd round picks are at the bottom of the 2nd round, practically 3rd rounders.
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Re: Bobby Wagner Replacements?
Sun Jan 26, 2020 6:56 pm
  • jmahon316 wrote:
    Chawker wrote:Makil Harrison MLB Ohio st. 6'3" 245 Should be available in the second round.


    Unfortunately our 2nd round picks are at the bottom of the 2nd round, practically 3rd rounders.


    True, but we haven't seen the picks we acquire for trading our R1 pick yet!
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Re: Bobby Wagner Replacements?
Sun Jan 26, 2020 7:40 pm
  • Seahawkwalt1967 wrote:Or Willie g** ...Rob Staton really likes him

    https://youtu.be/mDZYpcbyWYQ


    I agree with him. Willie has potential and pedigree. The speed you want to see is there, the energy is there, well regarded by his teammates despite having a character red flag from his suspension. He's a playmaker, but as far as a Wagner replacement, I see him as more of an outside linebacker. He may be able to be developed as a mike, but I don't think it's something I'd be able to bet on happening.

    If I had to guess, I'd say Willie's stock is about as low as it's going to get. He's an athletic playmaker, his combine is more than likely going to be excellent. I'd wager he runs 4.48-4.55 and shows above average agility and burst. From February onwards, I expect him to be a riser and probably hitting day 2 unless he's a dipstick and interviews poorly.
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Re: Bobby Wagner Replacements?
Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:10 am
  • Attyla the Hawk wrote:Have to think that's what the Barton move was. We traded up to get him after all.

    It may be he's not the guy. I love Brooks, but the stock needed to get him is too much at this time. We're not trying to replace David Hawthorne after all.

    Late round, I'd keep my eye on Patrick Queen in day 3 out of LSU. Very twitchy and has excellent cover ability and quick to read plays. Was dominant in the BCS championship game. He's a bit light -- which may cause him to fall.

    I think of him as a poor man's Telvin Smith from FSU a few years back. Although not quite a slight.

    As it is, I don't think we're likely to take a LB a year after double dipping in a rather mediocre LB pool. Usually we don't do that unless we don't really like the position in the next years' class.

    Given that we passed on many better prospects at positions of greater need in 2019 in order to select Barton:

    OT: Edoga, Evans (Both started this year)
    TE: Dawson Knox (starter)
    S: Quincy WIlliams, Chauncey Gardner-Johnson
    DE: Oshane Ximenes, Maxx Crosby (either would have lead our team in sacks)

    We passed a LOT of talent of imminent need in order to move up for Barton. So our bed is kind of made in that regard. Taking a LB early is essentially doing a 'Maglik Mcdowell/LJ Collier' combo twice.

    Yeah, it's Barton. It's a pretty interchangeable position with the WILL, so another "MLB" isn't necessarily out of the question, but I don't think they take one early. They'll find a guy they like in the middle rounds.
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Re: Bobby Wagner Replacements?
Thu Jan 30, 2020 9:18 am
  • already seeing mocks with Queen sneak into rd 1. Probably has the 2nd as a strong floor.

    I think real value would be Willie g4Y in the 4-5th round.
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Re: Bobby Wagner Replacements?
Sun Feb 02, 2020 3:45 am
  • TreeRon wrote:I hope we don't waste a draft pick on "Bobby Wagner's replacement". We have other priorities.

    Agree. Worry about that next year.
    You drafted Barton, BBK, and Queem for a reason. If all 3 are busts already (I’m not saying they are) then that’s a Scouting issue, and needs to be addressed.
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Re: Bobby Wagner Replacements?
Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:00 am
  • Bobby has a few more good years left in him (my opinion).


    KJ on the other hand...


    I'd like to see some young blood step into that role.
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Re: Bobby Wagner Replacements?
Sat Feb 08, 2020 5:54 pm
  • Clay Johnston Baylor give him a lookz.
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Re: Bobby Wagner Replacements?
Sun Feb 09, 2020 4:06 pm
  • Chawker...I love what Ive seen from Clay Johnson

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