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I'd take the criminal who looks you in the eye and shoots straight over the liar anyday.

Shark - How many NFL players you personally know?

Curious about your statement: "about 95% of the players in the NFL who are just really buttholes."

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The plot thickens.. for the fifteenth time...

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Arizona Cardinals fullback Reagan Mauia told ESPN that he not only knew Kekua, but that he was close with her family.
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http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr- ... ncaaf.html

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I'd take the criminal who looks you in the eye and shoots straight over the liar anyday.

Shark - How many NFL players you personally know?

Curious about your statement: "about 95% of the players in the NFL who are just really buttholes."


How many do I personally know that play now, or have played at some point? 2 different questions. I believe criminals are liars who take things. Liars who aren't criminals are just stupid. Why would you take the worst type of liar?

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I've been considered a criminal for much of my life, Shark. Would you employ Te'o or I?

I have to hire all the time, I'd take the criminal.


A current criminal? Criminals and liars are about the same to me. It's deception. As an employer, I would avoid people who are deceptive. If a guy came in to my office and said, "Look.... here's the situation.... I stole a playstation 2 when I was in college, it was stupid, I paid for it ten times over, I learned my lesson.... I felt awful." Then that's one thing. If I found out that it had happened and he hadn't told me about it, then he's a liar. See what I'm saying. You don't want the double whammy/liar/thief.

Everybody makes mistakes. Yes, even me. I own up to them. I feel that's the only way I can be. I can't be deceptive. It doesn't work. Always covering your tracks. So if it turns out that Manti was being honest and was tricked, then I think my whole opinion changes. A remorseful thief? I can understand hiring. Especially if they said, "Look.... I know I've got to earn your trust. Let's lay out a trust plan for what I have access to, and with the understanding that we both know my past mistakes." Yeah.... I'd take that guy over a flat out liar any day. But a guy who walks in and lies about his criminal record and puts on a con job and I think he'd make a great employee... no I wouldn't hire him because he wasn't honest. If a kid came in and didn't come clean on having once lied about having a girlfriend, I don't think that's as big of a problem as the guy who lies and says he has no record.

Maybe we're talking about different things here. Having a record doesn't prevent you from getting a job, but not being upfront about it will eliminate you from employment at 99% of businesses in America. You have to disclose it. You don't have to disclose if you ever pretended you were hooking up with some island hottie. Or you don't have to tell people if you were hooking up with some island hottie without everybody knowing. ;) Heh heh. Lips zipping. Zipppppp.

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Neither Scottemojo nor kearly have to concoct stories of dead GF's to mask their private lives (not that there's anything wrong with that).


In fairness, it's by necessity. I am a terrible liar.

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I have a girlfriend in a different state is man code for...I don't have a girlfriend. As Eddie Izzard said, they assign levels of badness to crimes, why not lies? Saying you shagged a girl you didn't is like lying level 9, and there are WMDs in Iraq is Level 1.

Now, Teo seems to have some accomplices, and used it to fuel his Heisman run, so I am gonna say he was about level 5.


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Fishy. I would draft a criminal before I draft a bullshitter.


That's almost bumper sticker material. On the money.


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But I'll throw another part of the Mormon culture out there, just as a devil's advocate to myself if nobody else. If young men in the LDS church aren't married by the time they are 22 or so then people start to talk and call them a menace or whatever. If they aren't actively dating LDS girls seeking out their "partner forever" then they are given all kinds of crap. It's a cultural thing. Not a religious rule. It is just the way people are, and the pressure is INTENSE. I wasn't married until 3 days before I turned 27 and my wife was 26 and we got so much crap from people that I really can't explain it.


I am not LDS, but I grew up in Mormonville (northern Arizona on the border, near Navajo rez). Our town had 1 radio station at the time and it's main talk show was hosted by the wife of a local polygamist. My school was probably 70% LDS, and would have been far more if not for a large native american contingent. A lot of my friends growing up were Mormon.

Anyway, for those who don't know, Shark is 110,000% right on this. Seriously, I could write a book on the pressures that existed among young people in highly concentrated Mormon communities. Some violations of this code could even result from excommunication from both Church and one's entire family. Being cut off from your entire family after living your entire life in an intense family oriented world is incredibly daunting.

I can only imagine the pressure's you had to deal with. No need to break any code or anything. Saying "trust me" is enough for me.

Honestly, the first thought I had was that Te'o was gay. Talk about tremendous pressure to keep that under wraps. He probably isn't, but if he was, everything would fall into place pretty quick. Like you said, the pressure to conform is enormous.

Shark, my pastor was once a criminal many decades ago. He is the wisest and most humble man I've ever met in person. Sometimes people learn from making mistakes (including crime), but people who take lying lightly are less likely to reform and much harder to trust.


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ESPN just ran a new twist on the story. Seems Kekua was real, but Teo only met her one time, and actually a ex-teammate of his who played for the Cards this year, knew her really well. Also they said the players on the team new she wasn't ever his girl friend. Weird story from top to bottom, and why would someone say any of this? Manti just seems to continue to dig a hole deeper and deeper.


Even if Kekua did exist, the girl on the facebook page is not her. It is obvious that Te'o is complicit. I think Shark is on to something with his theory. Family/religious pressure's could have been a factor.


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This is going to sound extremely bigoted and ignorant, but dude kinda looks, sounds and acts gay. If you assume he is gay alot of this makes sense. Some poor choices - but their choices you can at least comprehend.


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I hope during the NFL draft that Seattle tricks Manti Te'O into thinking that they're drafting him by calling him (assuming he's in the green room or on camera where ever he is at the time) and then they draft someone else and get his reaction on camera.


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I hope during the NFL draft that Seattle tricks Manti Te'O into thinking that they're drafting him by calling him (assuming he's in the green room or on camera where ever he is at the time) and then they draft someone else and get his reaction on camera.


That's what he did to 3 colleges. Said he was flat out going there. Obviously he only went to 1.

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Breaking news, T'eo blames poor tackling in the championship on imaginary alabama players.


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@Shark, not all criminals are thiefs. getting in fights, dui, weed, ect. And like I said, there are all manner of lies, some way worse than others. Cover up lies are bad news. Reportedly, the kid says he found out this was a hoax Dec 6, but then talked about the girl like she was real Dec 9 and Dec 11 on television at the Heisman award presentation. These lies paint the picture of a guy who connives, conspires, and has the wrong kind of pride.

Those are qualities that are prime components in a team cancer.

Think of it like this. You are GM, and a guy you will give lots of money to if you draft him has shown bad judgement, which is really what we are talking about. Does he justify bad judgement and paint himself as the victim (Lie)? If he does, he lacks accountability. Accountability is the backbone of team success. Gap assignment is about accountability.

This is a really big deal.

I just hope his pride isn't so wounded that he does something stupid to hurt himself.

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I'd take the criminal who looks you in the eye and shoots straight over the liar anyday.

Shark - How many NFL players you personally know?

Curious about your statement: "about 95% of the players in the NFL who are just really buttholes."


How many do I personally know that play now, or have played at some point? 2 different questions. I believe criminals are liars who take things. Liars who aren't criminals are just stupid. Why would you take the worst type of liar?


You can get rid of the criminal (who shoots straight) who takes things after one incident, the liar may take 3 or 4 before you can pin it on them.

I'll take both numbers, play now, or have ever played.

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Wilbon said on PTI that when he interviewed T'eo he was struck by how "child-like" he was. "Simple" was another word he used. He said during their interview he couldn't get past that.


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A lot of people are painting this issue as black and white when in reality it is probably mostly gray.

Has he lied? Yes, there really is no denying that. But, the real issue here is what the intent was.

If he lied to cover up the embarrassment of being in love with a girl he's never met online that's a whole lot less of a big deal than if he lied and was involved in a big conspiracy in order to get publicity for personal gain.

It really isn't that hard to believe that he he lied initially to cover up that embarrassment and then had it spiral out of control rapidly.

Who here hasn't spun a lie before where you have to keep lying so you don't get caught? Now imagine that the spotlight is on you 24/7 by the entire nation and having that pressure to keep the lie going by any means necessary. Not a pretty picture right? Don't know about you guys but I sure as hell wouldn't be chomping at the bit to fess up to all of this nonsense.

Is he guilty of terrible judgement? Absolutely, no matter what else happens at the very least he's not only naive but not the brightest bulb because there is no way this wouldn't come to light at some point. Who knows, maybe he was just hoping to ride it out another few months until after the draft and then it wouldn't really matter if it came out. While embarrassing he'd still be set for life financially.

All I'm saying is there are still plenty of unknowns here and to assume that it's automatically the worst case scenario and to absolutely destroy him the way he's been destroyed the past few days is at best premature, and at worst could be just flat out wrong.

Having said all of that I have no idea what happened and he could turn out to be the POS you guys are claiming him to be but until I see all the evidence from both sides I'm withholding judgement.


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A lot of people are painting this issue as black and white when in reality it is probably mostly gray.

Has he lied? Yes, there really is no denying that. But, the real issue here is what the intent was.

If he lied to cover up the embarrassment of being in love with a girl he's never met online that's a whole lot less of a big deal than if he lied and was involved in a big conspiracy in order to get publicity for personal gain.

It really isn't that hard to believe that he he lied initially to cover up that embarrassment and then had it spiral out of control rapidly.

Who here hasn't spun a lie before where you have to keep lying so you don't get caught? Now imagine that the spotlight is on you 24/7 by the entire nation and having that pressure to keep the lie going by any means necessary. Not a pretty picture right? Don't know about you guys but I sure as hell wouldn't be chomping at the bit to fess up to all of this nonsense.

Is he guilty of terrible judgement? Absolutely, no matter what else happens at the very least he's not only naive but not the brightest bulb because there is no way this wouldn't come to light at some point. Who knows, maybe he was just hoping to ride it out another few months until after the draft and then it wouldn't really matter if it came out. While embarrassing he'd still be set for life financially.

All I'm saying is there are still plenty of unknowns here and to assume that it's automatically the worst case scenario and to absolutely destroy him the way he's been destroyed the past few days is at best premature, and at worst could be just flat out wrong.

Having said all of that I have no idea what happened and he could turn out to be the POS you guys are claiming him to be but until I see all the evidence from both sides I'm withholding judgement.


After reading this post, it's pretty clear you don't know how the internet works.

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A lot of people are painting this issue as black and white when in reality it is probably mostly gray.

Has he lied? Yes, there really is no denying that. But, the real issue here is what the intent was.

If he lied to cover up the embarrassment of being in love with a girl he's never met online that's a whole lot less of a big deal than if he lied and was involved in a big conspiracy in order to get publicity for personal gain.

It really isn't that hard to believe that he he lied initially to cover up that embarrassment and then had it spiral out of control rapidly.

Who here hasn't spun a lie before where you have to keep lying so you don't get caught? Now imagine that the spotlight is on you 24/7 by the entire nation and having that pressure to keep the lie going by any means necessary. Not a pretty picture right? Don't know about you guys but I sure as hell wouldn't be chomping at the bit to fess up to all of this nonsense.

Is he guilty of terrible judgement? Absolutely, no matter what else happens at the very least he's not only naive but not the brightest bulb because there is no way this wouldn't come to light at some point. Who knows, maybe he was just hoping to ride it out another few months until after the draft and then it wouldn't really matter if it came out. While embarrassing he'd still be set for life financially.

All I'm saying is there are still plenty of unknowns here and to assume that it's automatically the worst case scenario and to absolutely destroy him the way he's been destroyed the past few days is at best premature, and at worst could be just flat out wrong.

Having said all of that I have no idea what happened and he could turn out to be the POS you guys are claiming him to be but until I see all the evidence from both sides I'm withholding judgement.


After reading this post, it's pretty clear you don't know how the internet works.


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I'll take a straight shot Super; you're a rube. Color it anyway you'd like, Te'o's a creepy liar. And that's the opinion of a man who's actually done a stretch in a nut-hut, Te'o makes me look sane.


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I'll take a straight shot Super; you're a rube. Color it anyway you'd like, Te'o's a creepy liar. And that's the opinion of a man who's actually done a stretch in a nut-hut, Te'o makes me look sane.


Ok, well that's just your opinion. You don't have any more information than the rest of us. You've come to a conclusion and that's fine. Me, I'm gonna wait to hear the rest of the details before I pass judgement.


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I'll take a straight shot Super; you're a rube. Color it anyway you'd like, Te'o's a creepy liar. And that's the opinion of a man who's actually done a stretch in a nut-hut, Te'o makes me look sane.


Ok, well that's just your opinion. You don't have any more information than the rest of us. You've come to a conclusion and that's fine. Me, I'm gonna wait to hear the rest of the details before I pass judgement.


Sounds more like you're going to let your biases continue to do their thing and hope to God you don't actually have to make a judgment call which would make Notre Dame look bad.

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Back to watching T'eo as a football player, am I the only one that thinks he still has a place on the Seahawks? Potential top talent that may be able to be had at a bargain, just needs a gutsy team to take a chance on him... who does that sounds like?

Even if he is "simple" or "child like," the dude has football instincts.


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I'll take a straight shot Super; you're a rube. Color it anyway you'd like, Te'o's a creepy liar. And that's the opinion of a man who's actually done a stretch in a nut-hut, Te'o makes me look sane.


Ok, well that's just your opinion. You don't have any more information than the rest of us. You've come to a conclusion and that's fine. Me, I'm gonna wait to hear the rest of the details before I pass judgement.


Sounds more like you're going to let your biases continue to do their thing and hope to God you don't actually have to make a judgment call which would make Notre Dame look bad.


ND already does look really bad in all this. I was flat out wrong in my national championship prediction, I have no problem owning that. I'm not the homer you'd like to make me out to be. Am I hoping it isn't worst case and that he is a total creep POS? Of course but as I've said numerous times I have no idea what the truth is yet, and frankly neither does anyone else here.


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I'll take a straight shot Super; you're a rube. Color it anyway you'd like, Te'o's a creepy liar. And that's the opinion of a man who's actually done a stretch in a nut-hut, Te'o makes me look sane.


Ok, well that's just your opinion. You don't have any more information than the rest of us. You've come to a conclusion and that's fine. Me, I'm gonna wait to hear the rest of the details before I pass judgement.


I dont need evidence. As Digital Underground said; "game recognize game".

I've spent most of my life in a world of liars, thieves and masqueraders...I'm well-versed in people like this. You can dismiss that all you want, but anyone who's lived that type of life can recognize and identify personalities better than psychiatrists.


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I've spent most of my life in a world of liars, thieves and masqueraders...I'm well-versed in people like this. You can dismiss that all you want, but anyone who's lived that type of life can recognize and identify personalities better than psychiatrists.


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In high school, Te'o had a 3.5 grade-point average and did volunteer work with the Shriners Hospital, Head Start preschool program, Hawai'i Food Bank and Special Olympics. Te'o also became an Eagle Scout in November 2008.[15] Te'o is an active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church).


That doesn't scream creep to me. The girlfriend situation sounds more closet-homosexual or closet-religious than dirt-bag masquerader.


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I said creepy liar (why do I feel like I'm kidhawk and you're you now?). I agree, I think its a closet-case thing. But, lying gets creepy when you make up dead broads for media love.


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To be honest I can't believe the Te'o innocence angle is getting the amount of play and acceptance that it seems to be. The guy is a pathological liar. As pehawk said, I've known too many people like this and I can see it from a mile away. As bold as it sounds, I don't need anymore details to have a solid understanding of how this whole mess went down. Te'o is a creep and Notre Dame looks ridiculous.

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I said creepy liar (why do I feel like I'm kidhawk and you're you now?). I agree, I think its a closet-case thing. But, lying gets creepy when you make up dead broads for media love.


Maybe he's a closet Necro??? :sarcasm_on:


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I said creepy liar (why do I feel like I'm kidhawk and you're you now?). I agree, I think its a closet-case thing. But, lying gets creepy when you make up dead broads for media love.


Maybe he's a closet Necro??? :sarcasm_on:


And you my friend are a nazi (I read that somewhere).

I'm with Code. I cant believe ANYONE'S letting him off the hook by even acknowledging his victim angle.


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pehawk wrote:
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I said creepy liar (why do I feel like I'm kidhawk and you're you now?). I agree, I think its a closet-case thing. But, lying gets creepy when you make up dead broads for media love.


Maybe he's a closet Necro??? :sarcasm_on:


And you my friend are a nazi (I read that somewhere).

I'm with Code. I cant believe ANYONE'S letting him off the hook by even acknowledging his victim angle.


I need to add ".net Nazi" to my avatar.

Ray Lewis was indicted for murder and we're screaming bloody hell for some web of lies about an imaginery girlfriend. I just watched some more footage on T'eo to get me grounded in reality. I'd be excited to have him as a football player if his draft stock falls and we get a bargain. Another chance for Pete to be stupid like a fox.

If we don't get him and he turns out to be actually crazy, I do want the opportunity to go back and delete these posts that will potentially make me look stupid.


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The Ray Lewis thing is a hard one for me. It's a "but for the grace of god goes I" thing.

Not that I'm a gangsta thug, far from it. But, I've seen dudes get put into comas, legs broken, jaws shattered into paste via circumstantial punches or falls. Another inch or two, it easily could've ended up a homicide, EASY. Anyone in the early 20's, who ended up in fights, could've been Ray Lewis. Or, to put it another way, any of us.


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The Ray Lewis thing is a hard one for me. It's a "but for the grace of god goes I" thing.

Not that I'm a gangsta thug, far from it. But, I've seen dudes get put into comas, legs broken, jaws shattered into paste via circumstantial punches or falls. Another inch or two, it easily could've ended up a homicide, EASY. Anyone in the early 20's, who ended up in fights, could've been Ray Lewis. Or, to put it another way, any of us.


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In high school, Te'o had a 3.5 grade-point average and did volunteer work with the Shriners Hospital, Head Start preschool program, Hawai'i Food Bank and Special Olympics. Te'o also became an Eagle Scout in November 2008.[15] Te'o is an active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church).


That doesn't scream creep to me. The girlfriend situation sounds more closet-homosexual or closet-religious than dirt-bag masquerader.


fwiw.... when you are Mormon you are forced to do all those things (w/ the exception of GPA). Volunteer work, boy scouts, etc. If you don't do it you are looked at as a TOTAL outsider, bad kid, bad parents, and outcast.

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Anyone who's been in a barfight couldve easily had some douche slip and crack his head open. I.e. manslaughter.


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Anyone who's been in a barfight couldve easily had some douche slip and crack his head open. I.e. manslaughter.


Have you been watching Con Air?


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I've spent most of my life in a world of liars, thieves and masqueraders...I'm well-versed in people like this. You can dismiss that all you want, but anyone who's lived that type of life can recognize and identify personalities better than psychiatrists.


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In high school, Te'o had a 3.5 grade-point average and did volunteer work with the Shriners Hospital, Head Start preschool program, Hawai'i Food Bank and Special Olympics. Te'o also became an Eagle Scout in November 2008.[15] Te'o is an active member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS Church).


That doesn't scream creep to me. The girlfriend situation sounds more closet-homosexual or closet-religious than dirt-bag masquerader.

Ted Bundy did charity work too...not saying Te'o's that kinda creep, but a lot of creeps hide behind a kind, compassionate front.


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A lot of people are painting this issue as black and white when in reality it is probably mostly gray.

Has he lied? Yes, there really is no denying that. But, the real issue here is what the intent was.

If he lied to cover up the embarrassment of being in love with a girl he's never met online that's a whole lot less of a big deal than if he lied and was involved in a big conspiracy in order to get publicity for personal gain.

It really isn't that hard to believe that he he lied initially to cover up that embarrassment and then had it spiral out of control rapidly.

Who here hasn't spun a lie before where you have to keep lying so you don't get caught? Now imagine that the spotlight is on you 24/7 by the entire nation and having that pressure to keep the lie going by any means necessary. Not a pretty picture right? Don't know about you guys but I sure as hell wouldn't be chomping at the bit to fess up to all of this nonsense.

Is he guilty of terrible judgement? Absolutely, no matter what else happens at the very least he's not only naive but not the brightest bulb because there is no way this wouldn't come to light at some point. Who knows, maybe he was just hoping to ride it out another few months until after the draft and then it wouldn't really matter if it came out. While embarrassing he'd still be set for life financially.

All I'm saying is there are still plenty of unknowns here and to assume that it's automatically the worst case scenario and to absolutely destroy him the way he's been destroyed the past few days is at best premature, and at worst could be just flat out wrong.

Having said all of that I have no idea what happened and he could turn out to be the POS you guys are claiming him to be but until I see all the evidence from both sides I'm withholding judgement.

The part for me that is very telling is that he knew about the hoax at the VERY LATEST (I don't believe for one second he didn't know before that) on Dec. 6th and continued to push that story line in the public afterwards. Why? My best guess...he understood what the storyline did for his Heisman chances and his exposure during the BCS Championship game.


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Ted Bundy did charity work too...not saying Te'o's that kinda creep, but a lot of creeps hide behind a kind, compassionate front.


Yeah but we usually look past creeps that can play football. Michael Vick and Ray Lewis both seem like bigger high risk people to me and they've broken past their stigmas. Manti can play football, somebody is going to take a chance on him. I'm not even saying we necessarily SHOULD, but I could see the Seahawks being the team that does. We usually don't pass by risky bargains.


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Anyone who's been in a barfight couldve easily had some douche slip and crack his head open. I.e. manslaughter.


Have you been watching Con Air?


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Ted Bundy did charity work too...not saying Te'o's that kinda creep, but a lot of creeps hide behind a kind, compassionate front.


Yeah but we usually look past creeps that can play football. Michael Vick and Ray Lewis both seem like bigger high risk people to me and they've broken past their stigmas. Manti can play football, somebody is going to take a chance on him. I'm not even saying we necessarily SHOULD, but I could see the Seahawks being the team that does. We usually don't pass by risky bargains.

True...I actually wouldn't mind Te'o on the team. I just find this story incredibly sad, and honestly, really funny.


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You want to know what else is offensive? The fact the term "catfish" is being used. I was SO pissed off watching that, I thought it was real heading into it. 5 minutes in, I was livid and threw a lil tantrum over it.

Catfish wasn't real either, assholes.


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Back to watching T'eo as a football player, am I the only one that thinks he still has a place on the Seahawks? Potential top talent that may be able to be had at a bargain, just needs a gutsy team to take a chance on him... who does that sounds like?

Even if he is "simple" or "child like," the dude has football instincts.



No, you can't bring a jackass like this into the locker room. Guys won't respect him now, and any mistake will be amplified by the fans. Would much rather have a guy like Vontae then this clown. At least a guy who is to emotional can grow up, but a guy who lies for attention to the country is just creepy.


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One of the things NFL GMs often do that I don't believe in is completely removing players from their boards. That's how Tom Brady goes in the 6th round. That's how Russell Wilson reaches the 3rd round. I think if there is some feature you really don't care for, but the talent is there, you knock them down several rounds, but you never rule them out. Generally speaking.

I would rule out Manti Te'o. If I was a GM, I would not even call him in UDFA. Scott has already said it better than I could, Te'o shows all the signs of a future cancer, and his lack of accountability could effect his ability to grow as an NFL player. Maybe he'll end up a pro-bowler for some other team, but to me the risk is simply not worth it.


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Back to watching T'eo as a football player, am I the only one that thinks he still has a place on the Seahawks? Potential top talent that may be able to be had at a bargain, just needs a gutsy team to take a chance on him... who does that sounds like?

Even if he is "simple" or "child like," the dude has football instincts.



No, you can't bring a jackass like this into the locker room. Guys won't respect him now, and any mistake will be amplified by the fans. Would much rather have a guy like Vontae then this clown. At least a guy who is to emotional can grow up, but a guy who lies for attention to the country is just creepy.


We have dudes that robbed drug dealers on our team..... Teo is a sissy.

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"Mr Te'o, hi, Mike Brown here....welcome to the Bengals"

To pile on kearly, the Bengals are managing their team by targeting these types. Allows Brown to hold the financial leverage. Makes sense when you're a farm team, competing in the pros. Total sense.

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