Register    Login    Forum    Search    FAQ    Contact Us  Your donations are greatly appreciated! Donate  Chat Room

Board index » SEAHAWKS.NET - THE VOICE OF THE 12TH MAN » [ THE NCAA FOOTBALL & PRO DRAFT FORUM ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 43 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:34 pm 
NET Veteran
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:38 am
Posts: 2003
Location: Graham, WA
I think WLB and DT are way too big of weakness to pass on them until the late rounds, latest we wait is 5th round for either. I'd be amazed if we did get one or the other in the 2nd or 3rd.

_________________
Image


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 9:52 pm 
NET Veteran
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:06 am
Posts: 777
I have been inquiring about swoop for a while. Does he not look like a NE draft pick?

_________________
"If we lose ... this place will be a Carnival of Stupidity." FlyingGreg


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:42 am 
*Scott of Smacksville*
*Scott of Smacksville*
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:14 am
Posts: 10044
Fudwamper wrote:
I have been inquiring about swoop for a while. Does he not look like a NE draft pick?

I think Swope ends up at Miami.

_________________
SEAHAWKS.NET. We All We Got, We All We Need


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:39 am 
NET Veteran
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:06 pm
Posts: 580
Fudwamper wrote:
I have been inquiring about swoop for a while. Does he not look like a NE draft pick?


Agree with this. If Swope doesn't make it to the 2nd, it's because of NE.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:43 am 
NET Starter
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:46 pm
Posts: 440
I don't understand why so many folks think Swope will reach the third round. He's not a secret Lithuanian track star. He killed the 40 at the combine and has plenty of great tape out there. We were all hoping to pick Bruce Irvin in the third round last year, and look what happened to that.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:58 am 
NET Veteran
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:54 am
Posts: 713
Location: Orlando, FL
Excellent. I didn't notice "dream" draft in the title until after I looked at the selections. I hope your "what I think" draft looks similar enough to this.

_________________
World Champion
Image
Seattle Seahawks


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:41 am 
NET Veteran
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:38 pm
Posts: 629
godawg wrote:
I don't understand why so many folks think Swope will reach the third round. He's not a secret Lithuanian track star. He killed the 40 at the combine and has plenty of great tape out there. We were all hoping to pick Bruce Irvin in the third round last year, and look what happened to that.


Several reasons:

1. He's a cold a@$ed Hon .... or so I'm told. So like a black QB has to be a running QB, a white WR has to be Wes Welker. Stereotypes. Gotta love em. Especially if you are an organization that doesn't believe in them.

2. Disbelief of the measurables. There still persists amongst just about everyone I've ever talked to -- a general sense that he killed the combine but his tape belies that. I see why the tape belies that. Or at least I think I do.

3. He's not a "#1 receiver". I'm convinced God kills a puppy any time some nutwad spews out that groupthink term. It's a complete WASTE of time to try and get the next AJ Green. It is the dress on the proverbial postseason pig. There is no correlation at all between having a #1 receiver and winning in the postseason. In fact just the opposite is true. Almost every single year.

So let everyone else trip over their meat trying to get 6'3"+ ceiling guys like Patterson or Hunter or gadget bubble screen princesses like Tavon Austin. And consider yourself fortunate that skill players that don't fit the mold fall into your lap every year.

4. Depth at desired positions. Swope is highly regarded by some. But the truth is, there is just a glut of talent. At important positions. It's a numbers thing really.

5. Demand. Last year was supposed to be this great year for WRs. Lots of them were taken in the first 3 rounds (13). So a lot of teams are going to be looking elsewhere to spend their draft capital. Not unlike this year's demand for QBs. It's very uncrowded this season, since so many teams have picked QBOTF candidates in both 2011 and 2012.

Next year, there will probably be 2-3 times as many teams in the market than there is this year.

As far as the WR class goes, it's a classic case of supply and demand. This year's class is better in my opinion. But there are fewer teams looking to spend early picks on WRs this year than last. Talent is going to slide because of need and recent investment.

WR, I believe, is one of those 'pockets' of talent that John was referring to. I'd think OT is another, as well as DT. That doesn't mean all of the R2 guys comprise those pockets of talent. Maybe he likes the early day 3 OTs better than other early day 3 positions. I do think there is evidence to suggest that they do set up their board in a breadth first fashion. Trying to get guys that will compete at every stage. It's not inconceivable that they pass on a OT they like at 56, to instead take a WR -- because they like the R4 OTs better than the R4 WRs. Thus getting 2 valuable upgrades instead of one and a camp body.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:25 am 
*Scott of Smacksville*
*Scott of Smacksville*
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 9:14 am
Posts: 10044
HawksSoc wrote:
Scottemojo wrote:
HawksSoc wrote:
Hi Kearly, I was just curious as to who you'd see filling out last starting LB spot if this draft was to come to fruition? I can't catch alot of college ball here in Ireland, so is Dimanche the type of guy who could start, or is it Malcolm Smith's job to lose do you think? Thanks :)


Kip will answer you eventually, but I will tell you what I think in the interim.

First, don't feel cheated on Dimanche, that highlight video is about all any of us will see of Dimanche in college. Southern Illinois gets no exposure on national TV.

He was team captain.
The video shows a great special teamer.
It also shows a guy who reads the option plays really quick. That is probably the number one reason I like him, I have not seen a single LB this year who cut up the pistol look at the offense's point of attack like that.

If you watch the plays one by one, Dimanche does play in space very well. On a few of those plays, he shadows a slot or tight end receiver in coverage. My favorite thing he does. though, is attack and disrupt. He gets off blocks.

Naysayers will trot out the small school argument. I would counter with how fast his decision making is on video, which is a trait that transcends quality of competition. I would add that his measurables are stellar.

I don't think he will be around in the 7th, I think several teams are well aware of his talents. Wherever he goes, I am going to watch him with curiosity.


Appreciate the response, it's cool to talk to one of the godfathers of our fair forum :180670: Dimanche does sound interesting, the ability to diagnose the Read Option seems like a nice bonus, since we are playing Kap twice and Newton among others this year. LB's who can cover well are valuable too, I'll be sure to remember his name come the later stages next week!


Thanks for the props, but for the record, I ain't shit. Certainly not a godfather, just one more guy with too much time on his hands who proves it by racking up thousands of posts.

_________________
SEAHAWKS.NET. We All We Got, We All We Need


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:11 pm 
* 17Power Blogger *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Fri May 01, 2009 8:46 am
Posts: 11208
Attyla the Hawk wrote:
3. He's not a "#1 receiver". I'm convinced God kills a puppy any time some nutwad spews out that groupthink term. It's a complete WASTE of time to try and get the next AJ Green. It is the dress on the proverbial postseason pig. There is no correlation at all between having a #1 receiver and winning in the postseason. In fact just the opposite is true. Almost every single year.

So let everyone else trip over their meat trying to get 6'3"+ ceiling guys like Patterson or Hunter or gadget bubble screen princesses like Tavon Austin. And consider yourself fortunate that skill players that don't fit the mold fall into your lap every year.


Brilliantly written. Much lolz.

Why are you not writing more? Seriously, start a blog.

_________________
GO HAWKS!!!

Visit my Seahawks blog at 17power.blogspot.com!

Follow me on Twitter at @17power


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:41 pm 
* Mr Random Thought *
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:44 am
Posts: 9819
nanomoz wrote:
Awesome work, Kip. I'd go crazy if we got Simon that late.

One thing though--you should go back and watch some Ahman Greene tape. Dude was an insane athlete.


I did. Michael's got him beat in terms of athleticism. Although Green did run a faster forty time in shorts.

Scottemojo wrote:
Fudwamper wrote:
I have been inquiring about swoop for a while. Does he not look like a NE draft pick?

I think Swope ends up at Miami.


Yeah, sounds like Swope is getting mid 2nd round talk right now, and there are obvious connections in Miami. Both the QB and the OC.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:59 pm 
NET Rookie
Online

Joined: Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:03 pm
Posts: 114
Location: Oak Harbor, WA
That would be a nice haul. My preferance for the DT spot would be a M. Hughes type rather than a smaller Simon.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:49 pm 
NET Veteran
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:38 am
Posts: 2003
Location: Graham, WA
Attyla the Hawk wrote:

WR, I believe, is one of those 'pockets' of talent that John was referring to. I'd think OT is another, as well as DT. That doesn't mean all of the R2 guys comprise those pockets of talent. Maybe he likes the early day 3 OTs better than other early day 3 positions. I do think there is evidence to suggest that they do set up their board in a breadth first fashion. Trying to get guys that will compete at every stage. It's not inconceivable that they pass on a OT they like at 56, to instead take a WR -- because they like the R4 OTs better than the R4 WRs. Thus getting 2 valuable upgrades instead of one and a camp body.



Love this line of thinking.

we might pass on a slightly better player at position X because we can still get a quality one later whereas if we don;t get a player at position Y, there won't be any Y's later on good enough to compete.

_________________
Image


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 8:55 am 
NET Veteran
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:26 am
Posts: 2869
Apparently marquardt went to skyline, so he is from here, which is kind of neat. Scott enyeart says he really wants to be a seahawk. 49ers showing heavy interest though (day 3).

Love the mock btw.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2013 9:19 pm 
NET Rookie
Offline

Joined: Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:38 pm
Posts: 109
U crazy, Kearly... U crazy :)

_________________
It is what it is...


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2013 1:31 pm 
NET Veteran
Offline

Joined: Fri Nov 04, 2011 11:47 am
Posts: 523
Nice mock, the first 3 picks would bring in some more legit playmakers for the offense...IMO Robert Turbin is just a guy and is nothing special whereas Christine Michael if given enough carries could be the best RB in this year's draft.

Having Ertz and Swoop fall to us in the rounds that you selected them is wishful thinking, but if they did fall to those spots they would be steals.

I'm not sold on John Simon being a fit for the Seahawks, the Pete Carroll & John Schnider mantra is bigger/faster players on defense. I'm sure 3-4 teams are salivating at the thought of drafting Simon and sticking him as a rush OLB. Simon would be a perfect fit at OLB for a team like the Steelers.

Micah Hyde has not gotten the love from mock draft sites or from the Mel Kiper's of the world, but come draft day I could easily see a team selecting him in the 4th round. I agree that other CB's may be getting more attention due to the fact that they ran fast or looked good doing drills in gym shorts, but game tape does not lie. I don't think GM's and their scouts will not overlook the fact that Hyde has good size and he makes plays on the ball. Put him on a team that likes to play man-press or even try him at FS...maybe the next Jairus Byrd.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:36 am 
NET Starter
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:37 pm
Posts: 346
Kearly,
Love your excellent research, analysis, and articles. And golly gee, if we could actually get the pick value and robustness of the draft you propose, I would be blown away, and the first to praise JS/PC once again as draft day building block geniuses. It is a bit fantastic/optimistic IMO opinion however, 'cuz Ertz will be gone by 56. And so will Cristine Michael be, by #123.
(Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have the two Zach's on the field, one running down each hash to pressure the safeties deep, while unleashing Harvin, Golden, & Baldwin underneath...)
Swope in the 3rd is certainly a perfect world ideal, but wouldn't it be more realistic to draft Ryan Swope at #56 to be certain, and then pick up Travis Kelce at #87, to essentially accomplish the same thing? I'd hate to lose Swope, while trying to greedily get Ertz on board first, and hoping hoping hoping Swope's still there waiting at #87.

Still... your final draft is one of the finest I've seen. Well done Sir!

Minor adjustments for value, need, and round might look like so:

kigenzun's final mock 2013
2-56: Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M. (For Russell to win the Heisman, and get drafted in Rd.1. Er, I mean... bring the Lombardi Trophy to Seattle... this is the player we need from this draft.)
3-87: Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati. (Same concept, different guy.)
4-123: Montori Hughes, DT, Tennesee-Martin. (NFL Bigger and Faster than Simon. Sorry mancrush.)
5-138: Jordan Mills, OT, Louisiana Tech. (Nastier than Breno. Quicker feet vs. outside speed rushers. And way cheaper in 2014.)
5-158: Mark Harrison, WR, Rutgers. (If not Michael for insuring Marshawn, how about seasoning Harrison to replace Rice in 2014.)
6-194: Dustin Hopkins, K, Florida State. (Why wait? Touchbacks for years, no momentum or extra yardage, & bring on the D, 1st &10 from the 20!)
7-214: Cooper Taylor, SS, Richmond. (A big safety in the pipeline for 2014.)
7-220: BJ Daniels, QB, South Florida. (Keep Quinn, upgrade Portis.)
7-241: Brice Butler, CB, San Diego State. (This year's conversion project.)
7-242: Kwame Geathers, NT, Georgia. (More beef.)


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:41 am 
NET Pro Bowler
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:50 am
Posts: 11162
Location: Antioch, CA
I am nervous that the 49ers are going to grab Swope with one of their 2nd rounders. I really don't want to see him go there.

_________________
Image


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:59 am 
NET Veteran
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:06 pm
Posts: 580
HawkFan72 wrote:
I am nervous that the 49ers are going to grab Swope with one of their 2nd rounders. I really don't want to see him go there.


I am thinking that the 49ers may try and trade up to #12 for Tavon Austin.

I think Swope is in the mix (along with Robert Woods and Quinton Patton) for NE's pick at #29.

Swope is most likely going to the Phins though early in the 2nd.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:09 am 
NET Veteran
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:00 pm
Posts: 1363
Yup, that would definitely be a dream.

_________________
Image

"We all we got, we all we need"


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:42 am 
NET Starter
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:04 am
Posts: 424
kigenzun wrote:
Kearly,
Love your excellent research, analysis, and articles. And golly gee, if we could actually get the pick value and robustness of the draft you propose, I would be blown away, and the first to praise JS/PC once again as draft day building block geniuses. It is a bit fantastic/optimistic IMO opinion however, 'cuz Ertz will be gone by 56. And so will Cristine Michael be, by #123.
(Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have the two Zach's on the field, one running down each hash to pressure the safeties deep, while unleashing Harvin, Golden, & Baldwin underneath...)
Swope in the 3rd is certainly a perfect world ideal, but wouldn't it be more realistic to draft Ryan Swope at #56 to be certain, and then pick up Travis Kelce at #87, to essentially accomplish the same thing? I'd hate to lose Swope, while trying to greedily get Ertz on board first, and hoping hoping hoping Swope's still there waiting at #87.

Still... your final draft is one of the finest I've seen. Well done Sir!

Minor adjustments for value, need, and round might look like so:

kigenzun's final mock 2013
2-56: Ryan Swope, WR, Texas A&M. (For Russell to win the Heisman, and get drafted in Rd.1. Er, I mean... bring the Lombardi Trophy to Seattle... this is the player we need from this draft.)
3-87: Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati. (Same concept, different guy.)
4-123: Montori Hughes, DT, Tennesee-Martin. (NFL Bigger and Faster than Simon. Sorry mancrush.)
5-138: Jordan Mills, OT, Louisiana Tech. (Nastier than Breno. Quicker feet vs. outside speed rushers. And way cheaper in 2014.)
5-158: Mark Harrison, WR, Rutgers. (If not Michael for insuring Marshawn, how about seasoning Harrison to replace Rice in 2014.)
6-194: Dustin Hopkins, K, Florida State. (Why wait? Touchbacks for years, no momentum or extra yardage, & bring on the D, 1st &10 from the 20!)
7-214: Cooper Taylor, SS, Richmond. (A big safety in the pipeline for 2014.)
7-220: BJ Daniels, QB, South Florida. (Keep Quinn, upgrade Portis.)
7-241: Brice Butler, CB, San Diego State. (This year's conversion project.)
7-242: Kwame Geathers, NT, Georgia. (More beef.)


Props to you. I agree with absolutely every pick in this draft with the exception being that I'd like for us to take one OLB--probably in the third or fourth---but, it would be hard to pass up on any of the players you mention to get one.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:15 pm 
NET Starter
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:37 pm
Posts: 346
Agreed. :D
However, no longer being fooled by an East Coast media bias of our "critical need to draft a WILL first thing Friday morning", and to get us all to finally stop thinking the same... i.e. "All we need is a new OLB in Rd2 and we're fine" mentality, I made a point in my final mock of NOT DRAFTING ANY LBs AT ALL. Not even at 242, where I take a NT instead (who i am aware will likely be gone btw), which is a "BUT BUT BUT...WHERE'S THE BEEF IN OUR RUN D??" jester pick.

This is where kearly is a analysis genius and is 'identifying the true problem' of helping the offense, (especially for cap flexibility in 2014 and beyond) and weighting his draft accordingly. I wish we could get Ertz, and Swope too, which is why I posted here. Cuz yeah, nobody back east gets as deep as kearly for our team. Much much much props. Thus, my 'adjustments' are also weighted to help the offense, now, and especially in 2014.

Personally, my whole world view on the state of the defense changed after we signed Cliff Avril AND Michael Bennett... and then especially after signing both Antoine Winfield AND Kam Chancellor. I mean that's basically 4 new starters, & all of em upgrades(!) because now that Kam Chancellor is locked in contractwise, he himself is a bigger, faster, better TE coverage skills, and more experienced big game hitter COMBINATION, than any of those projected rookie OLB such as Greene, Brown, Gooden, Jenkins, Dimanche etc etc anyways. And has a successful history of 'positional changes', cuz he's so football-smart that he used to be a ...wait for it... QB. So, why not let him get jiggy earning that cash BURYING Gore and FACEPLANTING Kaepernick on the read option! :thfight7:

With these key signings, it's lookin like a 'whole new thang' on D... a futuristic 21st Century... cutting edge... flexible, blitzable, muti-layerable, customized, hybridized, for reals #1 Deal to me. :thirishdrinkers:

For instance, right this second our basic 8 in the box (from L to R) might look like this:
Winfield, Irvin/Bryant, Mebane, Wagner, Bennett, Avril, KJ, Chancellor
with 3 Pro Bowlers (Sherman, Thomas, & Browner) holding down the back end.

It could be argued that's 5 Pro Bowl defensive backs, a MLB, and 5 interlocking rushers/runstoppers. I don't know what to call it except... (if you know the song, sing along...) THIS IS %@#&$% AWESOME!!!

Yet, being a natural people pleasing kind o guy...AAWolf... if you have to have a linebacker (...lest I give thee a brain tumor lol...) how about Rd. 5, pick 154, Korey Toomer, OLB, Idaho. Last year. Who now this year is a 2nd year practice squad vet who already knows our guys and our system.
:P


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:01 am 
NET Veteran
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:38 pm
Posts: 629
I would see them taking a LB for three reasons:

1. Competition. We have 3 backups vying for the Will. While I expect one of the three to be the day 1 starter, I also expect us to take a 'light a fire under them' pick. Presumably to take one of the current 3 WLBs roster spot.

2. History. We've drafted a LB every season. It's a high volume, high turnover position. We have equal need here as we've ever had it. I don't see us straying away from form.

3. Schneider's seal of approval. Typically, when Schneider speaks in his combine press conference, he's been atypically candid about his thoughts on the draft. Even if in generic terms. When he offers that he likes the LB group specifically -- I would take that seriously.

Do I think we are going to take a WLB early? Maybe. Do I think these signing alter how we go into the draft. Yes. But I don't think the signings indicate completion. Rather I see these signings as giving us flexibility. We don't "HAVE" to take a WLB early. But I still think we do.

None of these defensive signings make me think they are outright removing positions from their board. These are all bridge contracts. Hedge bets in case we can't sufficiently fill needs. The needs still remain. 3 tech. WLB. LEO. These are all positions that could use a long term solution. These signings simply dull the urgency. Which means we don't HAVE to take them right away. But we'll still likely take them somewhere.


Top 
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: kearly's 2013 dream draft, final version
 Post Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:42 am 
NET Starter
User avatar
Offline

Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:04 am
Posts: 424
kigenzun wrote:
Agreed. :D
However, no longer being fooled by an East Coast media bias of our "critical need to draft a WILL first thing Friday morning", and to get us all to finally stop thinking the same... i.e. "All we need is a new OLB in Rd2 and we're fine" mentality, I made a point in my final mock of NOT DRAFTING ANY LBs AT ALL. Not even at 242, where I take a NT instead (who i am aware will likely be gone btw), which is a "BUT BUT BUT...WHERE'S THE BEEF IN OUR RUN D??" jester pick.

This is where kearly is a analysis genius and is 'identifying the true problem' of helping the offense, (especially for cap flexibility in 2014 and beyond) and weighting his draft accordingly. I wish we could get Ertz, and Swope too, which is why I posted here. Cuz yeah, nobody back east gets as deep as kearly for our team. Much much much props. Thus, my 'adjustments' are also weighted to help the offense, now, and especially in 2014.

Personally, my whole world view on the state of the defense changed after we signed Cliff Avril AND Michael Bennett... and then especially after signing both Antoine Winfield AND Kam Chancellor. I mean that's basically 4 new starters, & all of em upgrades(!) because now that Kam Chancellor is locked in contractwise, he himself is a bigger, faster, better TE coverage skills, and more experienced big game hitter COMBINATION, than any of those projected rookie OLB such as Greene, Brown, Gooden, Jenkins, Dimanche etc etc anyways. And has a successful history of 'positional changes', cuz he's so football-smart that he used to be a ...wait for it... QB. So, why not let him get jiggy earning that cash BURYING Gore and FACEPLANTING Kaepernick on the read option! :thfight7:

With these key signings, it's lookin like a 'whole new thang' on D... a futuristic 21st Century... cutting edge... flexible, blitzable, muti-layerable, customized, hybridized, for reals #1 Deal to me. :thirishdrinkers:

For instance, right this second our basic 8 in the box (from L to R) might look like this:
Winfield, Irvin/Bryant, Mebane, Wagner, Bennett, Avril, KJ, Chancellor
with 3 Pro Bowlers (Sherman, Thomas, & Browner) holding down the back end.

It could be argued that's 5 Pro Bowl defensive backs, a MLB, and 5 interlocking rushers/runstoppers. I don't know what to call it except... (if you know the song, sing along...) THIS IS %@#&$% AWESOME!!!

Yet, being a natural people pleasing kind o guy...AAWolf... if you have to have a linebacker (...lest I give thee a brain tumor lol...) how about Rd. 5, pick 154, Korey Toomer, OLB, Idaho. Last year. Who now this year is a 2nd year practice squad vet who already knows our guys and our system.
:P


I like it. The modified nickel defense that you've envisioned eliminates the need for a traditional WLB with Winfeild and Chancellor sealing the run lanes and covering tight ends. But, as attyla pointed out, competition with KJ and even Wagner could be good in this system and I believe that we will sill be using a conventional 4-3 a lot, as we did last year, so a traditional WLB may be beneficial. This is because, if Winfeild and Chancelor are being blocked by TE's and OT's, then they might have more trouble disrupting the running game than a traditional WLB. However, as you observe, its not as glaring a need as I had thought with this modified cutting-edge defense.


Top 
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 43 posts ] 

Board index » SEAHAWKS.NET - THE VOICE OF THE 12TH MAN » [ THE NCAA FOOTBALL & PRO DRAFT FORUM ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: ctrcat, drrew, Hasselbeck, hawknation2014, McGruff, Seafan, SomersetHawk and 23 guests

 

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Seahawks.NET is an independent fan site and not associated with the Seattle Seahawks or the NFL (National Football League).
All content within this Seahawks fan page is provided by, and for, Seattle Seahawks fans. Copyright © Seahawks.NET.