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SWTOR was a fantastic game. I played it with a hardcore guild ranked #1 in the US. I really wish I would of played it under different circumstances as I feel I would probably still be playing it. To any who love Star Wars and enjoy MMORPGs this is a terrific game to play.


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Jeeeeeebus.

I just now realized that I'd been eyeballing this thread for damn near TWO YEARS, thinking, "I'm gonna get around to that."

Seriously, I was just thinking, "Wonder if that came out, yet." <-- How badly I need to surrender my nerd card, and an example of how busy it's been.


Yeah, but since you waiter, you get to play for free. Who's the dummy now..?

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Jeeeeeebus.

I just now realized that I'd been eyeballing this thread for damn near TWO YEARS, thinking, "I'm gonna get around to that."

Seriously, I was just thinking, "Wonder if that came out, yet." <-- How badly I need to surrender my nerd card, and an example of how busy it's been.


Yeah, but since you waiter, you get to play for free. Who's the dummy now..?


Trav, you waiter?

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cant believe this turns roland on.


Name an MMO with a more enjoyable leveling experience.

*crickets*

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cant believe this turns roland on.


Name an MMO with a more enjoyable leveling experience.

*crickets*


mmmm..... oh I'm leveling... oh, oh, oh.... I'm leveling, I'm leveling, I'm leveling.... oh, oh, oh....OH MY GOD I'M LEVELING! I'M LEVELING!! MAY THE FORCE BE WITH MEEEEEEEEE!!

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CANHawk wrote:
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cant believe this turns roland on.


Name an MMO with a more enjoyable leveling experience.

*crickets*


mmmm..... oh I'm leveling... oh, oh, oh.... I'm leveling, I'm leveling, I'm leveling.... oh, oh, oh....OH MY GOD I'M LEVELING! I'M LEVELING!! MAY THE FORCE BE WITH MEEEEEEEEE!!



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mmmm..... oh I'm leveling... oh, oh, oh.... I'm leveling, I'm leveling, I'm leveling.... oh, oh, oh....OH MY GOD I'M LEVELING! I'M LEVELING!! MAY THE FORCE BE WITH MEEEEEEEEE!!


Make fun all you want; have you actually leveled a character to 50 in SWTOR? Tons of class-specific dialogue with awesome dark side choices, fully voiced for you and your character. Great story. Leveling is actually enjoyable in SWTOR, unlike pretty much every other MMO ever made by anyone, ever.

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until Archeage comes out


Yeah, I've been hearing "until MMO X comes out" for a decade.

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RolandDeschain wrote:
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mmmm..... oh I'm leveling... oh, oh, oh.... I'm leveling, I'm leveling, I'm leveling.... oh, oh, oh....OH MY GOD I'M LEVELING! I'M LEVELING!! MAY THE FORCE BE WITH MEEEEEEEEE!!


Make fun all you want; have you actually leveled a character to 50 in SWTOR? Tons of class-specific dialogue with awesome dark side choices, fully voiced for you and your character. Great story. Leveling is actually enjoyable in SWTOR, unlike pretty much every other MMO ever made by anyone, ever.


That's kind of like being proud that the 2009 Seahawks had one of the best punters in the game. Leveling is not the point of a good MMO.

BTW - TERA was 100x more enjoyable. If you're going to make everyone do the exact same thing, at least make the combat engaging.

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If you want to discuss engaging combat, a melee class in Age of Conan and any class in Asheron's Call reign supreme, IMO.

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I never understood why AoC's combat didn't become more widespread.

My list of enjoyable leveling experiences goes something like this:

Asheron's Call (combat was ahead of its time, but I spent so much time exploring because you could run away from a LOT of trouble if you wandered into the wrong area... and fighting Olthoi (sp) in the caverns.

TERA (themepark linear world, but the combat is great)

DAoC (another ahead-of-its-time deal, mostly because it found a good solo/group balance back at a time when EQ was the dominant game and you couldn't solo past level 8 or so)


SWTOR would've been great, IMO, 6 years earlier. For an MMO vet like me, I kept saying "I've done this before, it just has a very nice coat of paint"

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I never understood why AoC's combat didn't become more widespread.

Same. The whole positioning-yourself-to-always-land-combos-on-the-unshielded-side thing had great potential. It was fun, and VERY easy to see who was stupid and who wasn't.

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My list of enjoyable leveling experiences goes something like this:

Asheron's Call (combat was ahead of its time, but I spent so much time exploring because you could run away from a LOT of trouble if you wandered into the wrong area... and fighting Olthoi (sp) in the caverns.

Oh, the memories. Olthoi is the correct spelling. Best mob type ever invented in gaming; were you playing when the Olthoi Queen event happened?

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SWTOR would've been great, IMO, 6 years earlier. For an MMO vet like me, I kept saying "I've done this before, it just has a very nice coat of paint"

It's too WoW-like in combat and end game "content", I agree; but like WoW, and most MMOs in general, the biggest failing is that it's based on freaking gear. Everything comes down to improving your stupid stats. Dumbest crap ever, I hate it. In WoW, you couldn't even stop playing for four months or you wouldn't be competitive in PvP anymore because of gear.

We need MMOs to head in the direction of Asheron's Call; gear basically doesn't matter, and you do things in the game for enjoyment, not because you need "teh aw3s0m3 purpz" simply to have a chance at PvP or PvE.

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I still contend that Archeage is bringing Ultima to the modern age. If you haven't read up on it yet, I suggest taking a look... This is what I've been waiting for for quite a few years now.


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Roland - I agree with everything and yeah, I remember the Olthoi Queen event. So awesome. AC's special in-game events were as well done as any in the MMO genre.

Favorite experience, in any game, was taking down the White Rabbit for the first time in Frostfell's history. That motha was one nasty bugger. Killed half the server a couple times.

Galen - I have been a huge AA fan for years too. After what Trion did with Defiance, though, I'm a little worried they'll eff it up bigtime. We need AA to save the genre.

(I'm also a big fan of Camelot Unchained. Different type of MMO, but after 13 years I am really bored of killing mobs, especially with tab targeting. Nobody did RvR better than DAoC, and the devs seem get the demand for a world that we "live" (for me it's mostly die) in, rather than a place we travel through and leave)

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RolandDeschain wrote:
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mmmm..... oh I'm leveling... oh, oh, oh.... I'm leveling, I'm leveling, I'm leveling.... oh, oh, oh....OH MY GOD I'M LEVELING! I'M LEVELING!! MAY THE FORCE BE WITH MEEEEEEEEE!!


Make fun all you want; have you actually leveled a character to 50 in SWTOR? Tons of class-specific dialogue with awesome dark side choices, fully voiced for you and your character. Great story. Leveling is actually enjoyable in SWTOR, unlike pretty much every other MMO ever made by anyone, ever.


Oh I totally agree with you. I'm actually really digging the story line of this game. I'm blown away by the sheer massiveness of all the dialogue options across all the different character classes, worlds plus the light/dark decisions and their ramifications. It's really an amazing game. I really enjoy the fact it lets me bang my padawan, even if there's no graphic video of it like (M)ass Effect. Plus I have TWO lightsabers that go "wroom, wroom". How fricken cool is THAT!?

I just couldn't resist taking the piss because... well... you just sounded like such a huge nerd fanboy when talking about the "leveling experience". ;)

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CANHawk, if I were a native American, there'd be a single tear running from my eye. Why you gotta hate? :(

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I dunno... Bored..?

Awww, c'mon... you know I kid cuz I care. If I didn't actually kinda like you, I'd just put you on ignore until the end of time.

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Too late. You hit me right in the feels. Now I'm going to sulk.


...So, how's the weather in Vancouver lately?

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Oh dude... weather here is so fricken amazing right now. I've got my solar visor in full effect. We've taken to tossing the football around in the park across the street from the office at lunch; the park where all the ladies come to be 3/4 naked in the sun by the water. Very good times... :)

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oh sweet didn't realize there were MMO nerds here.

Long time vet of games like Asheron's Call (thistledown), WoW, AOC, and SWTOR (at least as far as the ones I stuck with long enough to cap. . )

Played a Sith Assassin in TOR to max level but i got there right when the game first came out and sorta got bored pretty fast since nobody in the guild was high enough to do much of anything end game.


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I had chars on Wintersebb and Darktide in AC. That is still, bar none, the best MMO ever made. God, I miss that game. I would kill for Turbine to remake it with modern graphics and a modern engine. :(

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I played just about everything except Darktide over the 5+ years I spent with AC. I was in Wintersebb the day it opened, was like playing a brand new game.

I agree with Roland. I wish AC2 had been a big update to AC rather than a completely different game in the same world. I'd pay stupid money for that kind of game.

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Remake the original Asheron's Call with everything being modern, and I don't even want to guess at how much I'd pay to buy that, haha.

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I have a lvl 50 Sith Inquisitor and a lvl 44 Bounty Hunter. This is my first MMO and I really enjoy it in chunks. I'll go a few weeks playing as much as possible every day and loving it, then I skip a few days and almost forget about it for a month or 2. I think sometimes the tediousness and repetition of the missions just gets to me and I get bored of it. And being that this is my first MMO and I've never been much of a gamer I can't help but feel like there's a whole bunch of stuff I'm missing out of simply because I don't know what I'm doing... guilds, pvp, crafting & other tradeskills & such... I just don't really understand it because I'm a goddam noob.

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Remake the original Asheron's Call with everything being modern, and I don't even want to guess at how much I'd pay to buy that, haha.



Tell me about it. I know so many other people who feel the exact same way. I still keep in touch with quite a few people I met playing that game and if they kickstartered it they'd get their cash no problem.

I had one of the first few "battlemages" on thistledown, way before they added in the ability to respec, back then that was a tough road. Nowadays all the MMO's are way too easy. At least with AC you could maximize your risk/reward based on how you wanted to play.


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Asheron's Call automatically culled all the scrubs within hours. It was great. You couldn't even enjoy the game unless you were a decent player and at least semi-intelligent.

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I played Everquest for awhile, had so much fun. As that was my first mmorpg.

Then moved to Anarchy Online, then Star Wars Galaxies, which was awesome before they destroyed it. Then a little City of Hero's.

I miss playing those games.


I was keeping my eye on this, looks interesting.
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No I haven't yet...

But maybe, I remember playing Syndicate Wars and Shadow Run, I love that genre. I don't know, I just know I'll catch tons of grief from the ol' lady if I jump into a game like this.

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