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Some Thoughts By Me (Long Post Dude)
Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:36 pm
  • My first 3 thoughts are players who I thought could be hidden heroes that could step up much like Paul Richardson did vs the Lions. Feel free to add your own or discuss my guys. Fortunately, those are relatively short.

    My last 2 thoughts are more factors I think that could help the Seahawks prepare for the Falcons. Those thoughts are long and definately way too drawn out as I tended to ramble on a lot.

    On a phone, so didnt really want to condense after writing and simplify. If only I could just be brief in the first place. Sorry. Some of you love the word porn and some of you loathe it, I know.

    #5. CJ Prosise, I think I heard he will be available for this game, he might be somewhat limited nonetheless if Rawls stays upright and rolling, Seahawks don't need Pro to get the touches he did against the Patriots. Move him around, dial up a big play, strike it early, and he can be an effective decoy for the rest of the game. For you Huskies fans, think Chico McClatcher. Prosise can be a game changer, for numerous reasons I think Le'veon Bell. And he's a guy who if healthy definately gives this offense and Wilson a pretty good weapon.

    #4. Tanner McEvoy, he's been quiet in recent weeks despite being awesome in his opportunities. I think he would be a mismatch against Falcons lack of some length in their back 7 especially if the are focused in taking Baldwin and Graham away. McEvoy is the guy who can ninja some big yardage especially if their young Defense bites off play-action or Quinn chooses to blitz. If this was a game to open up the play-book to add another offense weapon, it would be this game against a high powered offense.

    #3. Luke Willson, much like McEvoy I feel he could represent a mismatch. I remember Zach Miller and Anthony McCoy making big plays against the Falcons in playoff game in '12... different teams but same concept. Falcons have speed on defense but lack the aforemention length and experience. The Falcons is likely to do three things on D:
    1) sell out vs the run i.e. run blitz to harass both Wilson and Rawls
    2) focus on taking away Graham and
    3) Baldwin.

    They are going to try to force Wilson into his 3rd or 4th reads, not give him the time to do so, and force errant passes or tipped passes with bodies in throwing lanes. See games vs GB and Arizona in prior years. And they do not want Seattle to dictate T.O.P. with its ground game. So, they'll be stacking that box and challenging the Seahawks offense to execute.

    So, Willson, even he continues to chip and release to help the Oline, I feel like he's going to find himself with a lot of free real estate to exploit in the middle of the field. Out of all our players, I get the best feeling where I can see him scoring on 1 or 2 long receptions just because he was completely unaccounted for.

    #2: Lions WRs. I think they represent well in comparison to what the Falcons have on offense. Not physically imposing players. A lot of quick guys that can get open. I know Stafford was hindered but Lions WR were dropping passes for a reason. It wasn't the cold. Play-off Kam Chancellor is scary, and his presence is going to make Falcon players fear going into the middle. If the rest of the defense plays with the same fear instilling tenacity that's going to get Falcons WRs to over think thier catch or timing which will lead to drops. This especially the case if the Seahawks front 7 can dominate like they did in the first half of the regular season game for a complete game. Losing Thomas sucks but having Frank Clark active for this game and having Bennett for the an entire game (knock on wood) is going to help disrupt and challenge Ryan. Obviously, Freeman and Coleman represent a different challenge than Zenner but the Seahawks handled them well without guys like Clark, Bennett for half a game, Mike Morgan, and Chancellor.

    So I think guys like Marvin Jones Jr, Tate, Ebron (especially) and Boldin was a good warm up to Julio Jones, Mo Sanu, Gabriel, and not sleeping Tolilo (sp?) this time around and perhaps Austin Hooper. This is definately a game where Shead, Lane, Terrell need to step up on Chancellors and Sherman's level of dominance. And that matchup against the Lions was a solid test for them in terms of some of the quickness they'll see out of this Falcons group.

    #1: Experience + Some Other Stuff I'll Write A Novel About

    This is the biggest one to me. Seahawks have came out flat in the first half of every divisional road game under Pete Carroll. Bears, Falcons, Panthers. And lost.

    This team is definately much more talented than the 2010 team that couldnt figure out the Bears or Soldier Field in January.

    It's arguable that this team is on par with 2012 team but experience is ten fold. Seahawks aren't going into Atlanta on back to back road trips after playing the Redskins on thier crap field which took out Clemons and Seahawks rolled into Atlanta with virtually no pass-rush. Bennett, Avril, and Clark are much better than Irvin. Id even argue that Marsh today as a Leo is comparable or better to a rookie Irvin, in what was his first start in that Leo role where we saw little push from Irvin and him get manhandled in the run game. So the pass-rush essentially at least 3 reasons better that day and possibly 4x as good. Add in Wagner and Wright where they are today as rushers and you can see where that experience and depth is going to be much more favorable.

    Then last year it was another back to back road trip, first was against a Vikings team in 0-10 degree weather in what was a physically overwhelming game. You listen to some of the comments by the players and you could tell that game was not only draining but hard on bodies. Then the Seahawks traveled to Charlotte with a tilt against the NFCs best, 15-1 Panthers where they got throughoughly dominated in the first half. Anyone watching this game could tell the Panthers field was giving the Seahawks problems. For whatever, reasons Seahawks don't do particular well on open air grass fields especially in wet or cold environments.


    Come back to this play-off picture. The Lions wasn't a very physically imposing opponent and the game was played in the security and familarity of the CLink. Seahawks aren't coming off a particularly emotional win like 2010 vs Saints then going on the road and playing in the cold. The Seahawks aren't also coming off physically overwhelming games in back to back road trips like they did in '12 and '15.

    Seahawks are coming into this Falcons game, relatively healthy, and considering last year... emotionally and physically steady. They don't have to battle a grass field, they don't have to battle the elements, they aren't traveling back to back on the road, this isnt a 10 am start.

    Falcons aren't the most consistent team in the NFC, or the best this season, or have great experience. We've already played them once this season and won. And that game shouldn't have been as close as it was if you figure in what Rawls, Prosise, and growth in the Offensive line can bring to the running game. A healthier, more mobile Russell Wilson. A full contingent of pass-rush with Clark and Bennett for a full game. And enable God Mode Kam Chancellor leading this defense and patrolling the secondary.


    It's just a differently feel to me than prior experiences even from this year, I just don't think the Seahawks will fall flat and come out ready to roll. I think this game could be similar to the Patriots game. Where the Seahawks came to play. Patriots O is just as good as the Falcons, and Pats D led the league in scoring. They also came off a bye against Seattle. Only difference is you take away Lockett for more Richardson and perhaps McEvoy, and you lose Thomas and gain a Michael Bennett. And replace a malaligned Christine Michael with the furious and passionate Thomas Rawls. Seahawks won that game 31-24 in a shootout.

    Falcons D isn't as close to as good especially considering how great their offense has been. See Cowboys D of a Defense that plays in combination to what their offense does for them.

    All in all, I think past experiences going to this team to help prepare this team to come out strong in a big time game. I feel the lack of worry about external factors like back to back road travel + 10 am starts, field conditions, weather, a mentally, physically, and/or emotionally draining matchup the week before is going to give the Seahawks a healthier vibe coming into this game taking away some the mental and physical obstacles where the Seahawks have fell flat in the past in the first half.

    This team will be ready. They know they cant dig themselves into a hole and they are in a good place, mentally and physically imo to play this Falcons team much like they did the Pats. Overall, I feel the Pats
    are a more complete team, a better coached team, a more experienced team than the Falcons. And for whatever its worth the Georgia Dome is not as intimidating as a Foxboro.

    In the end, the results have always been positive when the team plays like its back against a wall, when they feel disrespected and have a collective feeling of something to prove. At this point there is a lot of doubt in this year's Seahawks not being good enough, a lot of doubt about this D without Earl Thomas and its overall cohesion, a lot of doubt in the Offensive Line, a lot of doubt in Russell Wilson and his health and athleticism, alot of doubt in Bevell, a lot of doubt in this special teams, and especially a lot of doubt going on the road against a high powered offense and not coming out flat.

    There's a lot to prove. Seahawks love to prove those doubters wrong more often than not.

    I'm not going to predict a score, I will say the winner of this game is whatever team controls T.O.P. and plays better Defense.
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Re: Some Thoughts By Me (Long Post Dude)
Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:46 pm
  • Not sure I agree about the Lions dropping passes because of Kam. I think the Lions kind of choked. Hopefully the Hawks won't have to rely on that against Atlanta because I don't think it will happen. Defense should slow the Falcons down some but the offense better plan on scoring some points. And they should start doing it early.
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:53 pm
  • HawkGA wrote:Not sure I agree about the Lions dropping passes because of Kam. I think the Lions kind of choked. Hopefully the Hawks won't have to rely on that against Atlanta because I don't think it will happen. Defense should slow the Falcons down some but the offense better plan on scoring some points. And they should start doing it early.


    Dave Wyman brought up an interesting point yesterday on Radio.

    He said Kam was great at disguising coverage's against Detroit. He specifically named a play where both Terrell and Kam were lined up 2 deep and pre-snap Kam moved to single high to show the defense he would Patrol the middle. Golden noticed the switch and ran a post that where he dropped the ball, thinking Kam would patrol that middle. Kam bailed on single high and played the 2 deep.

    EVERYONE in the league looks at where Kam lines up. Why? Because if you run the short middle routes (drags, ins etc..) there is a good chance you might get knocked out of the game. Guys make business decisions. They'll drop the pass in order to play another play.

    Kam has single handily ended Vernon Davis's career. After those multiple hits over the years that guy just isn't the same. He went from being one of the most dominant TE's in the league to a bench warmer on his 3rd team in 2 years.
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Re: Some Thoughts By Me (Long Post Dude)
Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:10 pm
  • Run blitzing to stop Rawls/Wilson will be an absolute disaster if Bevell uses Graham right. There is no way they heavy run blitz and stop Graham.
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:18 pm
  • Run blitzing to stop Rawls/Wilson will be an absolute disaster if Bevell uses Graham right. There is no way they heavy run blitz and stop Graham.
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Re: Some Thoughts By Me (Long Post Dude)
Wed Jan 11, 2017 1:23 pm
  • Love the post.
    Disagree strongly with #2 though. Julio is in my opinion the 1b best receiver in the NFL (Brown being #1a). Detroit doesn't even come close to that. And don't forget the huge receiving threats Coleman and Freeman are out of the backfield. Atlanta has WAY more weapons on offense.

    I like the New England game comparison - I think you may be right and hope it plays out the same way.
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Re: Some Thoughts By Me (Long Post Dude)
Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:01 pm
  • iigakusei wrote:Love the post.
    Disagree strongly with #2 though. Julio is in my opinion the 1b best receiver in the NFL (Brown being #1a). Detroit doesn't even come close to that. And don't forget the huge receiving threats Coleman and Freeman are out of the backfield. Atlanta has WAY more weapons on offense.

    I like the New England game comparison - I think you may be right and hope it plays out the same way.

    Bolden,Ebron,Jones,Tate and Zenner don't come close?You got to be kidding ..I know J.Jones is great but it's not like the Falcons have both rb's in at the same time ..
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Re: Some Thoughts By Me (Long Post Dude)
Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:15 pm
  • iigakusei wrote:Love the post.
    Disagree strongly with #2 though. Julio is in my opinion the 1b best receiver in the NFL (Brown being #1a). Detroit doesn't even come close to that. And don't forget the huge receiving threats Coleman and Freeman are out of the backfield. Atlanta has WAY more weapons on offense.


    Way more weapons? Yep.

    5 games this year Julio had less than 60 yards.
    2 games he didn't play.

    Atlanta won all of them.

    That's the difference between this offense and previous years. Previously (as recent as last season when Julio was targeted 30% of the time) it was all about Julio. Ryan spreads the ball around a lot more now.

    Seattle is 5-10 over the past two seasons when they give up 20 or more. Falcons have scored over 20 in every game except Philly. We've scored at least 24 in all 10 games on turf this year.

    Falcons on grass (6 games): 31.8 ppg

    Falcons on turf (10 games): 34.9 ppg

    Seahawks fans will sometimes downplay their road woes and argue that it's more a matter of them playing well on turf instead of playing on grass. It's true that they beat New England on the road (turf game) but they also lost to the Saints, scoring just 20 points on the 31st ranked scoring defense. That 20 points includes a fumble return touchdown...by Earl Thomas.
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Re: Some Thoughts By Me (Long Post Dude)
Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:32 pm
  • Hollandhawk wrote:Run blitzing to stop Rawls/Wilson will be an absolute disaster if Bevell uses Graham right. There is no way they heavy run blitz and stop Graham.


    It seems of the teams that have beaten us or has given us fits, run blitzing has been a factor. Muck up the ZBS process by overwhelming young Olinemen to fumble thier assignment. Allows defenders to attack the Seahawks backfield stoning RBs. Above all try to pressure and disrupt Wilson, clog his passing lanes, and force him to execute in the passing game where he Wilson has been hot or cold at times.

    I think why run blitzing works is because 1) your selling out to stop the run game and as well as getting into Russ Wilson's head. If Bevell is calling long developing plays those are pretty much wasted. 2) Even if you give up a big play, Seahawks don't have a lot of play-makers that are homerun threats. This team has been bad in the RZ, factor in the shaking kicking, and you could see why trying to put the game in Wilson's hands, overwhelming him, whilst not allowing them to get thier run game going is a solid defensive strategy.

    That's why imo its important if Rawls and the O-line can build off last week, if a healthy Prosise can come back and add some explosive element, and if Bevell as you said can utilize Graham, Willson, And perhaps McEvoy to exploit the middle of the field. If you can force a team to back off its blitz schemes we have seen some positive things happen.

    But again to me it seems like the teams that has had the most success in stalling our offense have been the ones that attack the Oline, stuff the run, snuff out those long developing plays, and pressure and harass Wilson and force him and his team to execute before defenders hit home.
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Re: Some Thoughts By Me (Long Post Dude)
Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:57 pm
  • IndyHawk wrote:
    iigakusei wrote:Love the post.
    Disagree strongly with #2 though. Julio is in my opinion the 1b best receiver in the NFL (Brown being #1a). Detroit doesn't even come close to that. And don't forget the huge receiving threats Coleman and Freeman are out of the backfield. Atlanta has WAY more weapons on offense.

    I like the New England game comparison - I think you may be right and hope it plays out the same way.

    Bolden,Ebron,Jones,Tate and Zenner don't come close?You got to be kidding ..I know J.Jones is great but it's not like the Falcons have both rb's in at the same time ..


    It's a solid test imo for the quickness the Lions possess Jones, Jr and Tate, both quick twitch, play-makers with quality speed similar to what Seattle will see from guys like Julio Jones and Taylor Gabriel.

    Mo Sanu is thier savvy, big bodied possession type that lacks elite speed. Similar to Anquan Boldin.

    Ebron is better than the Falcons TEs but the challenge for the Seahawks is not to let the Falcons TEs escape their responsibilities. Which is why the matchup of Ebron last week helps Seattle this week.


    Obviously, I did state that both Coleman and Freeman represent more of a challenge than Zenner. However, I countered that the Seahawks did a great job in nullifying them without great run defenders on the field like Clark, Morgan (compared to his depth), Chancellor, and Bennett for the 2nd half in that first matchup. Wright and Wagner were on it... now if they can replicate that is the question.

    Furthermore, I didn't mention this but Julio Jones is dealing with a toe injury, how that effects him, I don't know but it could hinder some of his quickness especially out of his breaks.

    Gabriel is also dealing with a foot injury.
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:00 pm
  • Epic post P.H. and on a phone to boot.

    All great stuff....... :bow:
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Re: Some Thoughts By Me (Long Post Dude)
Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:03 pm
  • On run blitzes we need to do TE release routes and they will stop doing those blitzes. I'm thinking Jimmy and Luke are going to come up big for us.
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Re: Some Thoughts By Me (Long Post Dude)
Wed Jan 11, 2017 3:24 pm
  • FalconsFanNW wrote:
    iigakusei wrote:Love the post.
    Disagree strongly with #2 though. Julio is in my opinion the 1b best receiver in the NFL (Brown being #1a). Detroit doesn't even come close to that. And don't forget the huge receiving threats Coleman and Freeman are out of the backfield. Atlanta has WAY more weapons on offense.


    Way more weapons? Yep.

    5 games this year Julio had less than 60 yards.
    2 games he didn't play.

    Atlanta won all of them.

    That's the difference between this offense and previous years. Previously (as recent as last season when Julio was targeted 30% of the time) it was all about Julio. Ryan spreads the ball around a lot more now.

    Seattle is 5-10 over the past two seasons when they give up 20 or more. Falcons have scored over 20 in every game except Philly. We've scored at least 24 in all 10 games on turf this year.

    Falcons on grass (6 games): 31.8 ppg

    Falcons on turf (10 games): 34.9 ppg

    Seahawks fans will sometimes downplay their road woes and argue that it's more a matter of them playing well on turf instead of playing on grass. It's true that they beat New England on the road (turf game) but they also lost to the Saints, scoring just 20 points on the 31st ranked scoring defense. That 20 points includes a fumble return touchdown...by Earl Thomas.


    Saints game had more to do more with playing back to back road games, where the previous game was an ultra physical battle with Cardinals that went 5 QTRs, an 11-2 penalty disparity (only 2 false starts called on the Saints), No running game, missed opportunities by Wilson and by Michael in the running game, tripping over his feet numerous times with open field or zoning out mentally, reasons that reduced his playing time and led to his release. Seahawks beat themselves more than the Saints. Still missing Kam, Bennett, and Morgan on D.

    And that's pretty much it... Seahawks can't beat themselves, they can't start slow and expect to win vs the Falcons. They can't let the other offense to dictate T.O.P. which is why they challenged thier running game vs the Lions. If Rawls runs wild like he did vs the Lions, Falcons won't have the time to score as their season average.

    That's why running game and defense is vital. Thats why its been the backbone of this recent success. And Perhaps why this season has been especially infuriating because the run game had been inconsistent and has lead to the defense being on the field and getting fatigued.

    And the comments about the field more or less is the Seahawks don't have to worry about the weather or the field conditions and it was correlation to the what happened to the Seahawks the week before i.e ultra physical cold weather games on crap fields, back to back road games.

    It was more of a mentality that this team should be able to go into the Georgia Dome , relatively healthy, mentally and physically stable (compared to last year going into Charlotte) , and not worry about external obstacles that could be factors.
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Re: Some Thoughts By Me (Long Post Dude)
Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:00 pm
  • No one's said it yet but we need Russell to start on target. He doesn't have to be a miracle worker, but hit the open man and don't roll back into sacks. If we could get him a couple or runs that would help open up everything else...
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:50 pm
  • evergreen wrote:No one's said it yet but we need Russell to start on target. He doesn't have to be a miracle worker, but hit the open man and don't roll back into sacks. If we could get him a couple or runs that would help open up everything else...


    I am so on board with you on this call. It's critical that Russell lets the damn ball go. The offense is giving him more time now, but he doesn't have the luxury of 5 to 7 seconds of looie-loo time yet, he needs to trust his receivers and himself and let the damn ball go if that is what the play is, or hand it off and let the running game play itself out for us.

    Way to often since he got his legs back, and I hate to say it, since he got the big bucks, he seems to be a little to concerned with finding the perfect receiver situation, instead of being the cocky quick strike QB he can be, and while almost to a man on almost every play, our receivers are putting themselves out there as viable targets for him, and he isn't pulling the trigger and hitting them, it kills us.

    He is a fantastic quarterback, the best in the NFL as far as I can determine, but he needs to regain his confidence a little bit, he does eventually in every game but at the start, he's been being too conservative, drives me nuts. If he wants time and the pocket is collapsing, don't back up for crying out loud, move forward and grab all the time and yards he can going that direction, instead of running backwards in to waiting linemen and loss of hard earned yards, that make 3rd down conversions way difficult and often times deny us FG opportunities, having backup us up out of range, trying to buy time. .

    I think with our offensive line finally getting in sync and delivering for us on opening up the running lanes, which in turn has freed up our passing game, because our opponents now have to dedicate a good part of their resources, that they were previously dedicating, to trying to keep Russell in the pocket, and defending the pass, are now being forced to try and stop Rawls crazy ass from breaking NFL records against their defenses, along with Reese, Collins and now CJ.

    I think, I hope, I pray, that what we have seen occur over the past few games, was the brewing of a perfect storm, with the Seattle Seahawks in the middle of it, when we needed it to catch up with them the most.

    If these last three games were not flukes, and most importantly the game against the Lions was not, then Seattle has come full circle and are going to be every bit as good as any team we have gone into the playoffs with since Pete Carroll laid foot in Seattle, in fact, quite possibly even better.

    If that is what has occurred then look out, cause here we come. Russell should have a field day out there, and will look like the great Quarterback we all know he is, because our offense, defense and special teams are all come together when we needed them to be, the most, and all three are playing like fine tuned machines out there.

    I'm expecting something beautiful out there on Saturday. I know all about the old saying, "don't climb any higher up the ladder than you are willing to fall", I am way the you know what up that ladder and if per chance things don't go the way I BELIEVE they are going to, it's going to be a long and painful emotional fall for me. I think not to be willing to commit yourself to believing in your team on that level, only cheats you out of some crazy wonderful highs when they win and some terrible lows if they don't, but at the end of the day I wouldn't have it any other way.

    I've got a life time of high hopes and wonderful memories out of being a real 12th man, and plenty of days when I felt like I'd been beat and left for dead at the end of a game, but I wouldn't have it any other way. I truly believe that the Seattle Seahawks are this years Super Bowl Champions, I don't think there is a team out there that can stop us if we continue to play like we have been and if we all continue to believe in this team, players, coaches and fans alike.

    I think that the coaches and players are there, are we is the really big question?

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Wed Jan 11, 2017 5:46 pm
  • I'm 1 rung below you pacific. Great post. Also appreciate the wall of text PH.
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Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:43 pm
  • Largent80 wrote:Epic post P.H. and on a phone to boot.

    All great stuff....... :bow:


    Couldn't agree with you any more Largent! :les: :irishdrinkers: :2thumbs: :0190l:
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Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:59 pm
  • Pandion Haliaetus wrote:My first 3 thoughts are players who I thought could be hidden heroes that could step up much like Paul Richardson did vs the Lions. Feel free to add your own or discuss my guys. Fortunately, those are relatively short.

    My last 2 thoughts are more factors I think that could help the Seahawks prepare for the Falcons. Those thoughts are long and definately way too drawn out as I tended to ramble on a lot.

    On a phone, so didnt really want to condense after writing and simplify. If only I could just be brief in the first place. Sorry. Some of you love the word porn and some of you loathe it, I know.

    #5. CJ Prosise, I think I heard he will be available for this game, he might be somewhat limited nonetheless if Rawls stays upright and rolling, Seahawks don't need Pro to get the touches he did against the Patriots. Move him around, dial up a big play, strike it early, and he can be an effective decoy for the rest of the game. For you Huskies fans, think Chico McClatcher. Prosise can be a game changer, for numerous reasons I think Le'veon Bell. And he's a guy who if healthy definately gives this offense and Wilson a pretty good weapon.

    #4. Tanner McEvoy, he's been quiet in recent weeks despite being awesome in his opportunities. I think he would be a mismatch against Falcons lack of some length in their back 7 especially if the are focused in taking Baldwin and Graham away. McEvoy is the guy who can ninja some big yardage especially if their young Defense bites off play-action or Quinn chooses to blitz. If this was a game to open up the play-book to add another offense weapon, it would be this game against a high powered offense.

    #3. Luke Willson, much like McEvoy I feel he could represent a mismatch. I remember Zach Miller and Anthony McCoy making big plays against the Falcons in playoff game in '12... different teams but same concept. Falcons have speed on defense but lack the aforemention length and experience. The Falcons is likely to do three things on D:
    1) sell out vs the run i.e. run blitz to harass both Wilson and Rawls
    2) focus on taking away Graham and
    3) Baldwin.

    They are going to try to force Wilson into his 3rd or 4th reads, not give him the time to do so, and force errant passes or tipped passes with bodies in throwing lanes. See games vs GB and Arizona in prior years. And they do not want Seattle to dictate T.O.P. with its ground game. So, they'll be stacking that box and challenging the Seahawks offense to execute.

    So, Willson, even he continues to chip and release to help the Oline, I feel like he's going to find himself with a lot of free real estate to exploit in the middle of the field. Out of all our players, I get the best feeling where I can see him scoring on 1 or 2 long receptions just because he was completely unaccounted for.

    #2: Lions WRs. I think they represent well in comparison to what the Falcons have on offense. Not physically imposing players. A lot of quick guys that can get open. I know Stafford was hindered but Lions WR were dropping passes for a reason. It wasn't the cold. Play-off Kam Chancellor is scary, and his presence is going to make Falcon players fear going into the middle. If the rest of the defense plays with the same fear instilling tenacity that's going to get Falcons WRs to over think thier catch or timing which will lead to drops. This especially the case if the Seahawks front 7 can dominate like they did in the first half of the regular season game for a complete game. Losing Thomas sucks but having Frank Clark active for this game and having Bennett for the an entire game (knock on wood) is going to help disrupt and challenge Ryan. Obviously, Freeman and Coleman represent a different challenge than Zenner but the Seahawks handled them well without guys like Clark, Bennett for half a game, Mike Morgan, and Chancellor.

    So I think guys like Marvin Jones Jr, Tate, Ebron (especially) and Boldin was a good warm up to Julio Jones, Mo Sanu, Gabriel, and not sleeping Tolilo (sp?) this time around and perhaps Austin Hooper. This is definately a game where Shead, Lane, Terrell need to step up on Chancellors and Sherman's level of dominance. And that matchup against the Lions was a solid test for them in terms of some of the quickness they'll see out of this Falcons group.

    #1: Experience + Some Other Stuff I'll Write A Novel About

    This is the biggest one to me. Seahawks have came out flat in the first half of every divisional road game under Pete Carroll. Bears, Falcons, Panthers. And lost.

    This team is definately much more talented than the 2010 team that couldnt figure out the Bears or Soldier Field in January.

    It's arguable that this team is on par with 2012 team but experience is ten fold. Seahawks aren't going into Atlanta on back to back road trips after playing the Redskins on thier crap field which took out Clemons and Seahawks rolled into Atlanta with virtually no pass-rush. Bennett, Avril, and Clark are much better than Irvin. Id even argue that Marsh today as a Leo is comparable or better to a rookie Irvin, in what was his first start in that Leo role where we saw little push from Irvin and him get manhandled in the run game. So the pass-rush essentially at least 3 reasons better that day and possibly 4x as good. Add in Wagner and Wright where they are today as rushers and you can see where that experience and depth is going to be much more favorable.

    Then last year it was another back to back road trip, first was against a Vikings team in 0-10 degree weather in what was a physically overwhelming game. You listen to some of the comments by the players and you could tell that game was not only draining but hard on bodies. Then the Seahawks traveled to Charlotte with a tilt against the NFCs best, 15-1 Panthers where they got throughoughly dominated in the first half. Anyone watching this game could tell the Panthers field was giving the Seahawks problems. For whatever, reasons Seahawks don't do particular well on open air grass fields especially in wet or cold environments.


    Come back to this play-off picture. The Lions wasn't a very physically imposing opponent and the game was played in the security and familarity of the CLink. Seahawks aren't coming off a particularly emotional win like 2010 vs Saints then going on the road and playing in the cold. The Seahawks aren't also coming off physically overwhelming games in back to back road trips like they did in '12 and '15.

    Seahawks are coming into this Falcons game, relatively healthy, and considering last year... emotionally and physically steady. They don't have to battle a grass field, they don't have to battle the elements, they aren't traveling back to back on the road, this isnt a 10 am start.

    Falcons aren't the most consistent team in the NFC, or the best this season, or have great experience. We've already played them once this season and won. And that game shouldn't have been as close as it was if you figure in what Rawls, Prosise, and growth in the Offensive line can bring to the running game. A healthier, more mobile Russell Wilson. A full contingent of pass-rush with Clark and Bennett for a full game. And enable God Mode Kam Chancellor leading this defense and patrolling the secondary.


    It's just a differently feel to me than prior experiences even from this year, I just don't think the Seahawks will fall flat and come out ready to roll. I think this game could be similar to the Patriots game. Where the Seahawks came to play. Patriots O is just as good as the Falcons, and Pats D led the league in scoring. They also came off a bye against Seattle. Only difference is you take away Lockett for more Richardson and perhaps McEvoy, and you lose Thomas and gain a Michael Bennett. And replace a malaligned Christine Michael with the furious and passionate Thomas Rawls. Seahawks won that game 31-24 in a shootout.

    Falcons D isn't as close to as good especially considering how great their offense has been. See Cowboys D of a Defense that plays in combination to what their offense does for them.

    All in all, I think past experiences going to this team to help prepare this team to come out strong in a big time game. I feel the lack of worry about external factors like back to back road travel + 10 am starts, field conditions, weather, a mentally, physically, and/or emotionally draining matchup the week before is going to give the Seahawks a healthier vibe coming into this game taking away some the mental and physical obstacles where the Seahawks have fell flat in the past in the first half.

    This team will be ready. They know they cant dig themselves into a hole and they are in a good place, mentally and physically imo to play this Falcons team much like they did the Pats. Overall, I feel the Pats
    are a more complete team, a better coached team, a more experienced team than the Falcons. And for whatever its worth the Georgia Dome is not as intimidating as a Foxboro.

    In the end, the results have always been positive when the team plays like its back against a wall, when they feel disrespected and have a collective feeling of something to prove. At this point there is a lot of doubt in this year's Seahawks not being good enough, a lot of doubt about this D without Earl Thomas and its overall cohesion, a lot of doubt in the Offensive Line, a lot of doubt in Russell Wilson and his health and athleticism, alot of doubt in Bevell, a lot of doubt in this special teams, and especially a lot of doubt going on the road against a high powered offense and not coming out flat.

    There's a lot to prove. Seahawks love to prove those doubters wrong more often than not.

    I'm not going to predict a score, I will say the winner of this game is whatever team controls T.O.P. and plays better Defense.


    Thanks for taking the time Pan,

    I'm short on time and normally wouldn't even open a thread based on your title but fortunately I checked to see who the poster was before I closed my browser and as always, it paid off.

    Very impressive that you can write better than most even on your phone.

    Great points and insight and that's why I take the time to read your posts.
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  • " I think this game could be similar to the Patriots game. Where the Seahawks came to play. Patriots O is just as good as the Falcons, and Pats D led the league in scoring. They also came off a bye against Seattle. Only difference is you take away Lockett for more Richardson and perhaps McEvoy, and you lose Thomas and gain a Michael Bennett. And replace a malaligned Christine Michael with the furious and passionate Thomas Rawls. Seahawks won that game 31-24 in a shootout. "

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