Seahaaaawks":3tytr9f2 said:
pmedic920":3tytr9f2 said:
Should salaries be determined by how much the business owners make?
IDK.
I DO KNOW THIS.
The people that care for the elderly and disabled 24/7 should make more than they do.
Our teachers in the public school system should make more than they do.
Our law enforcement officers should make more than they do.
The people we call to save our lives/ property should make more than they do.
This will create an argument, I know it will because it has many times here @.Net.
I make 22.50 per hour, and I have to work approx 3300 hours a year to make what I consider a livable wage.
I get it, I chose my path but how much would I be worth if your child stopped breathing?
How much would you pay a firefighter if you wife was still inside while you were on the sidewalk?
How many people do you know that can't afford to take their son to a football game?
I get it, at least I think I do.
But I have a hard time feeling sorry for, or supporting a guy that make more per week than I do per year, I guy that makes more in one year than I will in my lifetime.
I love my Seahawks and I hope every one of them gets all they can get but I think our society in general is messed up.
If you don't agree, take a look at where we spend our money, look at what we place value in.
We think it's ok for an athlete to make 228 million for 4 years.
We also think it's ok, for a teacher to make 40k a year, or a police officer to make 27-60k per year.
Football players on strike, ok.
What if our truck drivers went on a real strike?
What if our grocery workers went on strike?
It's my opinion that people that make under 75k a year is what keeps our country and life style alive.
Oh no,where would we be, what would happen if....
MLB
NFL
NBA
All went on strike and refused to play?
I wish this was the Shack so I could cuss.
Edit: What if our Farmers and Ranchers all demanded 50 million a year, and refused to work if they didn't get it?
One thing is for certain,their families would still eat.
Would yours?
Dude... 100% spot on. Couldn't have said it better myself. My company profited some crazy amount like 15 billion last year. We got a candy bar wrapped in a wrapper that said thank you on it. So I don't wanna hear it when they say they want more millions. When is more ever good enough? I can't even imagine what it would be like to have 1 million dollars... but 30, 40, 50 million? And it's still not enough? Please... it's way out of hand. Everyone is so worried what other players are making instead of focusing on themselves, being thankful for what they have, and remembering where they came from.
See, this is the issue: Instead of thinking, "Why don't I get more from my company for the value that I helped create," you think, "I didn't get as much money as I should have gotten from my company, so football players shouldn't either."
No, you're both workers and you both generate profits. You both should be eating better than you are. Just because Sherm makes 10M a year and you make 60K a year doesn't mean that you both probably deserve to be compensated more for your labor.
Honestly, if farmers and ranchers want to hold out, they can. In fact, they do, because farmers often vote for whomever will give them subsidies to farm. Frankly, if farmers held out, they would get crushed by competition from other countries. What they do can be duplicated by farmers in Mexico or Peru or Canada. What Richard Sherman does can only be duplicated by like five other guys. That's why Sherm is worth 50M and a corn farmer in Iowa isn't worth nearly that much.
If some of you guys are against market forces being the major determinant of value, that's fine. Just say that this is what you believe and share what sort of planned economy that you prefer over a free market economy. Me, I think that when it comes to pro sports, the free market is the best determinant of value. I'm totally against salary caps of any type. All they do is keep players from getting fair value for their labor. That's why I'm also in favor of programs that allow all workers to get the highest value for their labor possible (such as a baseline universal income that would allow people to negotiate for wages for their labor without worrying about having to take a crappy job to eat or put a roof over their heads), but now we're getting too political.
However, I reject the idea that just because you don't think that you get fair value for your labor, other people should just shut up and be happy with their lot even if they're also not getting fair value for their labor.
