NFL reviewing Russell Wilson's concussion test

SoulfishHawk":5oy19pci said:

Because he wasn't hit in the head, he was hit in the chin. More will be made out of this since he's on the Seahawks.

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I'm really curious where some of you guys think the chin is located. I found a handy diagram to help you out though:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mental_region_(chin).png

Not my point, but ok..........:roll:

Torc":wxfzoatf said:

Stanton didn't get pulled out because he wasn't getting hit in the head....he was slow to get up because he was getting pummeled in general. He had whole body aches, not a concussion.

Wilson sure didn't look concussed to me when he got up and jogged to the sidelines - he never had that 'go limp' moment that really makes you worry. That being said the ref absolutely did the right thing - if he suspects a concussion he needs yank the player for testing.

From what I could see on TV, Russell evaluated himself and put himself back in the game - absolutely he broke the rules. As far as punishment, the NFL should be taking into account that the team (whether it was the doctors or coaches) realized the error and had him checked out as soon as he came off the field two plays later. That shows there was no intent on the part of the team to ignore the protocols.

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I agree with this post. I don't recall Stanton getting knocked in the head, pretty sure he was getting beat up and his entire body was feeling it.

The ref made the right call to have RW looked at and there was a flag for roughing the passer. The jaw is part of the head... it's also one of the worst places to take a blow in regards to concussions, and taking even seemingly light hits to the head can cause one. All concussions are not equal and the symptoms range from just a headache/clouded thinking/wooziness to being knocked out cold.

Concussions are serious injuries and not because the NFL is worried about CTE and related lawsuits. They can have profound short-term and long-term effects. The most serious, that I've learned about and seen the effects of, is Second-Impact Syndrome. This can happen when one gets another concussive blow to the head while the brain is still healing from a previous concussion. From Wiki:

The condition is often fatal, and almost everyone who is not killed is severely disabled.

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The disabilities involved are generally mental/physical retardation for the rest of one's life.

I doubt the Seahawks will be losing draft picks, as they did have him properly checked out after he come off the field a couple plays later showing that the team wasn't trying to skirt the protocol. The organization can expect a fine, though.

TBH I think this is all on Russ, and he should be fined. He basically pulled the wool over everyone's eyes by walking to the tent, pretending to go in, then coming back onto the field before an evaluation could be performed. If his head was as clear as he insists it was, then he knew better, and he knew exactly what he was doing.

Most of the coaches, refs, and players saw him go towards the tent, then turned their attention to the game. The concussion evaluators were probably still in the tent waiting for him to join them, and alerted the team when he didn't (after he went back into the game).

About the only thing the coaches could have done to prevent it is assign someone to walk Wilson to the tent and ensure he completed the evaluation before being allowed back on the field.

So, I can see a fine on Russ for purposely avoiding the evaluation, and a monetary fine on the team for not having someone follow Russ to ensure he underwent the evaluation prior to re-entering the game. Draft picks for the action of a player? I don't see it.

^agree 100% and posted that earlier that I think the league will see that as mitigating circumstances. The question is if there is a clear protocol when he gets back onto the field.

I would argue that he checks in with the ref just like an eligible receiver and the ref gets acknowledgment from team physician or team physician communicates directly with the ref to clear the player

I still believe that when the Ref calls the concussion protocol on the QB that a medical timeout should be given not charged to any team

SMH at the analysts who out of one side of their mouth say that it is important for QBs and CBs not to have a short-term memory and out of the other side of their mouth say concussions are a bad thing. Which way do you want it??

kobebryant":3nt3v45s said:

Which way do you want it??

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I like it both ways.

TransGenderHawkFan":1dyew8rr said:

kobebryant":1dyew8rr said:

Which way do you want it??

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I like it both ways.

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LMAO just because of your username

Seymour":3o95uw9d said:

QuickLightning":3o95uw9d said:

Seymour":3o95uw9d said:

Sounds like we "could lose draft picks" over this?

Sounds ridiculous....he was hit in the chin not the head. :roll:

According to the joint policy developed by the NFL and NFL Players Association, if the concussion protocol is found to not be properly followed, the team is subject to fines and a potential loss of draft picks.

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000874976/article/nfl-reviewing-russell-wilsons-concussion-test

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Not sure if you are aware, but the chin is actually part of your head. And yes, you absolutely get concussions from being hit there.

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No I wasn't aware the chin was part of the head, I appreciate the "heads up".

So if you get poked in the eye I guess you go to concussion protocol also? Makes sense. :2thumbs:

Baldwin got his chin hit in endzone and teeth knocked out and never went through this. Players get hit there all the time without this. BS.

The jaw is on a hinge connected to the head. That hinge is going to absorb more of the impact that the brain. :roll:

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Are you serious with this post? A direct shot to the chin couldn't give someone a concussion? And then to compare it to getting poked in the eye. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The team messed it up. Period. Just hope for the fine and not a loss of a pick.

I'd be really disappointed if we lost a pick over this.

Yeah Russell should have waited for the medical staff to check him out and not do his drive thru self examined concussion test............but there's also some culpability on the league. Their Dr or trainer should have been RIGHT there escorting Russell to the tent to not waste time.

Fine us, that works for me. But loss of pick is too much for something the league has at LEAST a portion of culpability for.

mikeak":15g4jcz3 said:

TransGenderHawkFan":15g4jcz3 said:

kobebryant":15g4jcz3 said:

Which way do you want it??

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I like it both ways.

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LMAO just because of your username

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:lol: :2thumbs:

What I find ironic is that it's Wilson and the Seahawks under scrutiny and not that douchenozzle Dansby for his cowardly hit. A deliberate hit that forces a player into the concussion protocol should lead to an ejection imho. Far more dangerous than simple scuffling a la AJ Green.

bigskydoc":26q3q6bx said:

TBH I think this is all on Russ, and he should be fined. He basically pulled the wool over everyone's eyes by walking to the tent, pretending to go in, then coming back onto the field before an evaluation could be performed. If his head was as clear as he insists it was, then he knew better, and he knew exactly what he was doing.

Most of the coaches, refs, and players saw him go towards the tent, then turned their attention to the game. The concussion evaluators were probably still in the tent waiting for him to join them, and alerted the team when he didn't (after he went back into the game).

About the only thing the coaches could have done to prevent it is assign someone to walk Wilson to the tent and ensure he completed the evaluation before being allowed back on the field.

So, I can see a fine on Russ for purposely avoiding the evaluation, and a monetary fine on the team for not having someone follow Russ to ensure he underwent the evaluation prior to re-entering the game. Draft picks for the action of a player? I don't see it.

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Nah, it's on the doctors and the unaffiliated with the team dude to stop him and check him out.