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Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:12 am
  • Looks like Paul Richardson will sign with the Washington Redskins.

    $40M, 5 years, $20M guaranteed. $8M APY.

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  • Yeah, Clayton said 5 years, 40 mil, with 20 guaranteed. Even that is way too much imo.
    Wow, so glad we didn't do that contract. Between Sheldon R, P-Rich and Graham. If they all get big $ contracts, that's THREE comp picks in the 3rd round right there. 2019 could end up being a very good draft.
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  • SoulfishHawk wrote:Yeah, Clayton said 5 years, 40 mil, with 20 guaranteed. Even that is way too much imo.
    Wow, so glad we didn't do that contract. Between Sheldon R, P-Rich and Graham. If they all get big $ contracts, that's THREE comp picks in the 3rd round right there. 2019 could end up being a very good draft.



    $8m a year in this market won't get them a 3rd, but a 4th isn't out of the question.
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  • 5 yr deal 20 mil guaranteed lol good for him id want more going to redskins lol
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  • These enormous contracts to FA wide receivers with a ton of guaranteed money are absurd.

    Good for Paul I guess? Doesn't really have a QB who can utilize his deep speed. Redskins looking at a 4 win season.
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  • I'm just going by what Clayton said. Plus, when I posted, someone had said it was 4 years, 40 mil :)
    At least we'll get a good comp pick. For sure they will get a 3rd for Sheldon. And hopefully someone overpays Graham.
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  • This sounds right on the cusp between a 4th and 5th comp pick.
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  • Damn! Well good for Paul. No way we come close to that.

    Wish him all the best personally.
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  • Yeah absolutely wish him the best.
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  • Sixteen touchdowns out the door. Hope you can come through, David Moore.
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  • Good luck to him. Hope he stays healthy.
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  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:Sixteen touchdowns out the door. Hope you can come through, David Moore.

    Ya, everyone knows your roster always looks the same as it does before day 1 of FA even starts. And how could we ever replace production? Because someone replacing a player will equate to zero production right? You would have paid Richardson $8mil a year? No way. He’s a decent receiver, but completely replaceable. Especially if we are just talking statistical production. Which is what you always bring up.
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  • Good for Paul.

    Glad we didn’t do that deal, though.
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  • pcbball12 wrote:
    MontanaHawk05 wrote:Sixteen touchdowns out the door. Hope you can come through, David Moore.

    Ya, everyone knows your roster always looks the same as it does before day 1 of FA even starts. And how could we ever replace production? Because someone replacing a player will equate to zero production right? You would have paid Richardson $8mil a year? No way. He’s a decent receiver, but completely replaceable. Especially if we are just talking statistical production. Which is what you always bring up.


    Someone gets it. It is only 16TD's out the door if zero come back in to replace them.

    I'm not worried...and same goes for Graham!

    2005 Seahawks...Shawn Alexander 28 TD's.
    2017 Seahawks....all RB's combined 2 TD's.

    Any idea where we can make these up people???? :roll:
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  • Paul's gonna get one million for every time he's on the personal injury report as doubtful.
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  • I would have matched that easily. This is a big loss. I'd much, much rather have Prich than Lockett.
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  • Thanks for your time here Paul.
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  • Rat wrote:I would have matched that easily. This is a big loss. I'd much, much rather have Prich than Lockett.


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  • Rat wrote:I would have matched that easily. This is a big loss. I'd much, much rather have Prich than Lockett.

    Not me. Tyler is way more versatile than Paul is.
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  • Rat wrote:I would have matched that easily. This is a big loss. I'd much, much rather have Prich than Lockett.


    Well start working the OT then because it's coming out of your account. ;)

    I like PRich but this is less of an impact then losing Tate was (who signed for far less $$$)
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:02 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:Paul's gonna get one million for every time he's on the personal injury report as doubtful.


    Missed one game in two years.
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:03 am
  • onanygivensunday wrote:
    Rat wrote:I would have matched that easily. This is a big loss. I'd much, much rather have Prich than Lockett.

    Not me. Tyler was way more versatile than Paul is.


    FTFY.

    I know I'm back to being grouchy again, but seriously...are Amara Darboh, Marcus Johnson, and David Moore really expected to step up and replicate Richardson's results? And let's not forget those results actually need to be doubled to improve on 2017.
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:05 am
  • We aren't signing a big name WR. Darboh is most likely your starter next year with Lockett in the slot, likely Moore as the 4th with giraffe, new Marcus Johnson, Lawler, Grayson, and proba ly some udfa dudes fighting for the final or final two spots.

    Also don't rule out Prosise and Mckissic taking WR reps and only keeping 5 WRs. It COULD happen.

    Either way WR is just not a priority. We're perfectly fine there. Darboh was already getting on the field more and more towards the end of the season even with PRich there and we cut Freeney to keep Moore, who also got on tje field, particularly after giraffe fumbled when he got hit by Joyner in the Rams game.

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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:05 am
  • I can buy into the idea that we need to see what the Seahawks’ roster looks like in a few months.

    However, right now, it feels like they are burning the whole damn thing to the ground. Let ‘em all go.

    What’s next, wandering hip deep into the pit of several crap years? Awesome.

    No running backs. Horrible OL. Gutted defense. No kicker. That’s where we are today.
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:07 am
  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:Paul's gonna get one million for every time he's on the personal injury report as doubtful.


    Missed one game in two years.


    I like how you just skipped all of 2015, where he missed the first 8 games of the year with a torn ACL from the prior year, of which he missed two playoff games..................AND has a history of constantly battling nagging injuries due to his build.

    http://sportsinjurypredictor.com/player ... rdson/6967

    Bottom line for me on Richardson, love they guy, glad he got paid. But no way in hell I'd match that contract.
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:11 am
  • By the way, can they please let Ifedi go too? I really can’t bear another year of watching him look at Wilson, crumpled up on the turf, after another missed block. Also tired of all his penalties. Boot him.
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:11 am
  • Silver Hawk wrote:I can buy into the idea that we need to see what the Seahawks’ roster looks like in a few months.

    However, right now, it feels like they are burning the whole damn thing to the ground. Let ‘em all go.

    What’s next, wandering hip deep into the pit of several crap years? Awesome.

    No running backs. Horrible OL. Gutted defense. No kicker. That’s where we are today.


    Damn. That belongs in this thread? OK....but as we sit....we are about an 8-8 to 7-9 team and about 4-6 good moves away from contending again also.
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:12 am
  • We flat out didn't need to match it. Even if it were 4 million I wouldn't have matched, personally. There are plenty of WRs who only run go routes.
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:13 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    MontanaHawk05 wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:Paul's gonna get one million for every time he's on the personal injury report as doubtful.


    Missed one game in two years.


    I like how you just skipped all of 2015, where he missed the first 8 games of the year with a torn ACL from the prior year, of which he missed two playoff games..................AND has a history of constantly battling nagging injuries due to his build.

    http://sportsinjurypredictor.com/player ... rdson/6967

    Bottom line for me on Richardson, love they guy, glad he got paid. But no way in hell I'd match that contract.


    Two consecutive years injury-free bodes well. So does clutch gene and chemistry with Russell. It's a tough contract, but like the other endless tweener players on this roster, you have to ask, who ARE we going with in a down year for the draft?
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:13 am
  • Silver Hawk wrote:I can buy into the idea that we need to see what the Seahawks’ roster looks like in a few months.

    However, right now, it feels like they are burning the whole damn thing to the ground. Let ‘em all go.

    What’s next, wandering hip deep into the pit of several crap years? Awesome.

    No running backs. Horrible OL. Gutted defense. No kicker. That’s where we are today.


    It’s March 13th for crying out loud.
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:14 am
  • March 13th, and we are now the Browns? Come on, let's see how things go........
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:14 am
  • original poster wrote:
    Silver Hawk wrote:I can buy into the idea that we need to see what the Seahawks’ roster looks like in a few months.

    However, right now, it feels like they are burning the whole damn thing to the ground. Let ‘em all go.

    What’s next, wandering hip deep into the pit of several crap years? Awesome.

    No running backs. Horrible OL. Gutted defense. No kicker. That’s where we are today.


    It’s March 13th for crying out loud.


    Bad draft for WR's and for the Seahawks in general.
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:15 am
  • Seymour wrote:
    Silver Hawk wrote:I can buy into the idea that we need to see what the Seahawks’ roster looks like in a few months.

    However, right now, it feels like they are burning the whole damn thing to the ground. Let ‘em all go.

    What’s next, wandering hip deep into the pit of several crap years? Awesome.

    No running backs. Horrible OL. Gutted defense. No kicker. That’s where we are today.


    Damn. That belongs in this thread? OK....but as we sit....we are about an 8-8 to 7-9 team and about 4-6 good moves away from contending again also.



    Yes. It’s my reaction to watching another player hit the road. I suppose it could be posted elsewhere but I thought this was OK.
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:15 am
  • original poster wrote:
    Silver Hawk wrote:I can buy into the idea that we need to see what the Seahawks’ roster looks like in a few months.

    However, right now, it feels like they are burning the whole damn thing to the ground. Let ‘em all go.

    What’s next, wandering hip deep into the pit of several crap years? Awesome.

    No running backs. Horrible OL. Gutted defense. No kicker. That’s where we are today.


    It’s March 13th for crying out loud.



    Hence, my first sentence.
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Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:16 am
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    Silver Hawk wrote:I can buy into the idea that we need to see what the Seahawks’ roster looks like in a few months.

    However, right now, it feels like they are burning the whole damn thing to the ground. Let ‘em all go.

    What’s next, wandering hip deep into the pit of several crap years? Awesome.

    No running backs. Horrible OL. Gutted defense. No kicker. That’s where we are today.


    It’s March 13th for crying out loud.


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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:16 am
  • 12's these days "They didn't trade Lane for JJ Watt, these guys are clueless!"
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:18 am
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    Rat wrote:I would have matched that easily. This is a big loss. I'd much, much rather have Prich than Lockett.

    Not me. Tyler was way more versatile than Paul is.


    FTFY.

    I know I'm back to being grouchy again, but seriously...are Amara Darboh, Marcus Johnson, and David Moore really expected to step up and replicate Richardson's results? And let's not forget those results actually need to be doubled to improve on 2017.


    Doubled? Just one more TD would be an improvement since prich had six
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:20 am
  • Underutilized, under appreciated.

    Good value for someone with his skills. Just watch

    2016 proved that he was not given a chance to COMPETE
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:22 am
  • vin.couve12 wrote:We flat out didn't need to match it. Even if it were 4 million I wouldn't have matched, personally. There are plenty of WRs who only run go routes.


    Vin, you gotta account for Bevell's stink somewhat here. Sure, ding PR for being unidemensional but at least identify some causes for it before you write it off as his singular ability.
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:25 am
  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:
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    Sgt. Largent wrote:Paul's gonna get one million for every time he's on the personal injury report as doubtful.


    Missed one game in two years.


    I like how you just skipped all of 2015, where he missed the first 8 games of the year with a torn ACL from the prior year, of which he missed two playoff games..................AND has a history of constantly battling nagging injuries due to his build.

    http://sportsinjurypredictor.com/player ... rdson/6967

    Bottom line for me on Richardson, love they guy, glad he got paid. But no way in hell I'd match that contract.


    Two consecutive years injury-free bodes well. So does clutch gene and chemistry with Russell. It's a tough contract, but like the other endless tweener players on this roster, you have to ask, who ARE we going with in a down year for the draft?


    Richardson may not have missed games, but he had some nagging issues that slowed him down and caused him to be ineffective for long stretches of games. One TD and far less catches over the last half of last year.

    I agree btw, it's hard to see good receivers go when we already have a below average receiving corp. But that doesn't mean you match overpriced offers just to keep a player.
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:28 am
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:I'm just going by what Clayton said. Plus, when I posted, someone had said it was 4 years, 40 mil :)
    At least we'll get a good comp pick. For sure they will get a 3rd for Sheldon. And hopefully someone overpays Graham.



    Comp picks are not guaranteed. Totally depends on the rest of the league and what guys sign for. It looks like there should be some good picks coming our way in 2019 but we won't know until next year.
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:29 am
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    vin.couve12 wrote:We flat out didn't need to match it. Even if it were 4 million I wouldn't have matched, personally. There are plenty of WRs who only run go routes.


    Vin, you gotta account for Bevell's stink somewhat here. Sure, ding PR for being unidemensional but at least identify some causes for it before you write it off as his singular ability.

    Not really. Darboh has a higher upside overall and Moore is like a less polished, oversized Golden Tate. With all the movement that's going on, we need to address both sides of the LOS, LB depth, DB depth, likely another RB, backup QB unless it's just Boykin, possibly a kicker, etc.

    A kicker for 4 million nets us a couple wins. Richardson not so much. It's just priority. Well partially. I think Darboh is the better player in the end too albeit not in this offseason.
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:32 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
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    Missed one game in two years.


    I like how you just skipped all of 2015, where he missed the first 8 games of the year with a torn ACL from the prior year, of which he missed two playoff games..................AND has a history of constantly battling nagging injuries due to his build.

    http://sportsinjurypredictor.com/player ... rdson/6967

    Bottom line for me on Richardson, love they guy, glad he got paid. But no way in hell I'd match that contract.


    Two consecutive years injury-free bodes well. So does clutch gene and chemistry with Russell. It's a tough contract, but like the other endless tweener players on this roster, you have to ask, who ARE we going with in a down year for the draft?


    Richardson may not have missed games, but he had some nagging issues that slowed him down and caused him to be ineffective for long stretches of games. One TD and far less catches over the last half of last year.

    I agree btw, it's hard to see good receivers go when we already have a below average receiving corp. But that doesn't mean you match overpriced offers just to keep a player.


    The bathtub is draining faster than it is filling though. As a principle, yes, don't match offers to players that have above average salaries for average or below average performance, past or forward looking. But that principle also binds you to not whiffing in the draft. I have made this point multiple times with regards to the OL and it applies anywhere really - if you are picky about your FAs and extensions and conditionally bound by salary to ignore the top 30-40% of FA talent, then you are putting it all on the draft.

    With hindsight we can observe that even the FA dalliances and trades were not supportive of this principle.

    And that's why we have an ailing min/max team at current.
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:35 am
  • vin.couve12 wrote:
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    vin.couve12 wrote:We flat out didn't need to match it. Even if it were 4 million I wouldn't have matched, personally. There are plenty of WRs who only run go routes.


    Vin, you gotta account for Bevell's stink somewhat here. Sure, ding PR for being unidemensional but at least identify some causes for it before you write it off as his singular ability.

    Not really. Darboh has a higher upside overall and Moore is like a less polished, oversized Golden Tate. With all the movement that's going on, we need to address both sides of the LOS, LB depth, DB depth, likely another RB, backup QB unless it's just Boykin, possibly a kicker, etc.

    A kicker for 4 million nets us a couple wins. Richardson not so much. It's just priority. Well partially. I think Darboh is the better player in the end too albeit not in this offseason.


    Well, you're more hopeful than I am about either rising up. Hope you're right but too speculative because of absent performance for me to be there with you.
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:36 am
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Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:41 am
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    The bathtub is draining faster than it is filling though. As a principle, yes, don't match offers to players that have above average salaries for average or below average performance, past or forward looking. But that principle also binds you to not whiffing in the draft. I have made this point multiple times with regards to the OL and it applies anywhere really - if you are picky about your FAs and extensions and conditionally bound by salary to ignore the top 30-40% of FA talent, then you are putting it all on the draft.

    With hindsight we can observe that even the FA dalliances and trades were not supportive of this principle.

    And that's why we have an ailing min/max team at current.


    For sure, and our WR drafts are a pretty damn close 2nd for worst drafted position group after the O-line.

    But Pete and John made their bed last year with extremely hamstringing our cap space, and now we have to get that back in order, so Richardson is just one of the players we can't match an offer to in order to keep.
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
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    vin.couve12 wrote:We flat out didn't need to match it. Even if it were 4 million I wouldn't have matched, personally. There are plenty of WRs who only run go routes.


    Vin, you gotta account for Bevell's stink somewhat here. Sure, ding PR for being unidemensional but at least identify some causes for it before you write it off as his singular ability.

    Not really. Darboh has a higher upside overall and Moore is like a less polished, oversized Golden Tate. With all the movement that's going on, we need to address both sides of the LOS, LB depth, DB depth, likely another RB, backup QB unless it's just Boykin, possibly a kicker, etc.

    A kicker for 4 million nets us a couple wins. Richardson not so much. It's just priority. Well partially. I think Darboh is the better player in the end too albeit not in this offseason.


    Well, you're more hopeful than I am about either rising up. Hope you're right but too speculative because of absent performance for me to be there with you.

    Understood. I was never that high on PRich as a prospect coming out of college. It was apparent what he was going to be. I said he was going to have health issues and that his lack of strength would affect his route tree. Catch radius was always great, but he would have to cleany beat press even for go riutes because even now he still has a hard time holding the line on tje sideline.

    Basically all that turned out to be true. I think that a lot of people just looked at tje speed and length and disregarded the rest in Madden hopes.

    I realize that isn't popular and I'm ok with that. I don't blame you or anyone else trusting the ledge I'm on.

    Plus free agent and draft priorities on the roster right now. I just wouldn't entertain signing him back, but again, I know I'm viewed as the crazy one here.
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:44 am
  • I've been a lot higher on PRich than most here and would consider matching the deal if not for the comp pick we get from letting him walk. Rookie contracts and QB contracts are the two main avenues to increase talent per dollar.

    I won't be surprised if he earns this contract with the Redskins. Him and Wilson never quite had a perfect rapport and he didn't get many chances to catch a ball in stride. He still came down with more than his share of contested passes and defended them well. His 8.1 yards per target with us was much better than average and should only go up if he can stay healthy.
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Re: Paul Richardson Deal with the Redskins
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:48 am
  • onanygivensunday wrote:
    Rat wrote:I would have matched that easily. This is a big loss. I'd much, much rather have Prich than Lockett.

    Not me. Tyler is way more versatile than Paul is.


    I wouldn't have matched this deal either, but Lockett is way overvalued as a returner. He's been an average punt returner, and with touchbacks now being brought out to the 25, every team would be better off never returning a kickoff out of the end zone except in a few circumstances.
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