What is our plan?

Rat":24sye937 said:

jammerhawk":24sye937 said:

[The Rams will be fine until they need to pay their QB, then the wheels will start to wobble some.

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That's what, three years from now? In the mean time they still have Donald and Gurley, and added Peters and Talib. They'll be good for an eternity in NFL years. Heck, maybe they'll even learn from our mistakes and be able to keep it going longer, and it's not like paying Russ is the reason we've been trending downwards.

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TreeRon":3rg4sal4 said:

All of this, from the firing of coaches to the releasing/trading of players is a direct effect of NOT being able to produce an even mediocre offensive line over the last few years.
Had we had that O line we'd more than likely won at least one more game and we'd been in the play-offs and etc..

This malfeasance from Hawks management has had this huge domino effect impacting every position on the Seahawks, many of which had nothing to do with the offensive line.

Making lemonade however, had we had that mediocre O line and made the play offs, perhaps we'd have continued to over look some of the deficiencies of the other parts of our team.

I, like many of you, am anxiously waiting to see how JS and PC perform on this next draft. Another poor to mediocre draft should point to changes at the very top of the organization.

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Sox-n-Hawks":3hmcgc75 said:

Northwest Seahawk":3hmcgc75 said:

ducks41468":3hmcgc75 said:

I'm not sure what we're doing. We're not rebuilding, because you don't rebuild with a franchise QB in his prime. But we're certainly not improving. Seems to me like we're just declining. We're going to turn into a less exciting version of the 2014-2016 Saints or the 2010-current Chargers, a team with a barren roster being carried by its one and only asset, the QB.

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We are rebuilding. Just because were not in the market for a QB doesn't change that. We have no reliable running game no reliable skill position players on offense at all other than Doug and Wilson. We have a below average offensive line. We lost our best redzone target in Jimmy and the best CB in the league when healthy, We may be losing one of the best SS in the league and i'm not sure if Cliff will be back or Sheldon Richardson. We have turned over the entire coaching staff with the exception of Pete. They are rebuilding next year is a transition year we will not be a playoff team unless we strike gold in the draft and the other teams in the division regress.

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If cap cutting and trading potential liabilities off of the roster was a surefire way to miss the playoffs, nobody would ever get there. The sky is not falling. Business decisions are being made.

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Silver Hawk":3qtopaty said:

This is obviously a massive roster rebuild.

Part 1 is to purge the roster of nearly every “high priced” and/or old player. Get ‘em out.

Part 2 is sign relatively cheap “nobodies” to fill holes.

Part 3 is trade down in the draft and try to get additional picks.

Part 4 will be to sign more cheap nobodies once they get released from other teams. Retreads.

Part 5 is to get very high draft picks next year. Will trade them to get more draft picks. Will selectively sign mid tier free agents next year. Hoping to strike gold.

Not sure any of this will improve the OL. It hasn’t so far. In my mind, this is the biggest issue, by far. Given the last 2 years of up close evidence, regarding the effects of having a craptastic OL, I can’t even begin to be optimistic about the outlook until this debacle is adequately addressed by the Seahawks.

So, get ready for a long year. Maybe many. This team cannot be expected to compete for anything this year. We’ll likely have the clown car offense in full gear. With Russell Wilson jumping out of the car on every 3rd down, running for his life and more than occasionally getting dismembered and disembowled. Splattered.

The Rams and 49ers will be far better. Sad state of affairs.

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KiwiHawk":1xslt78q said:

You guys get that we have a new OL coach, right? One whose entire philosophy is not built around the OL diving at the DL's knees and ending up on the ground, which hasn't been effective since cut blocks were made illegal?

That alone upgrades the OL. Any player upgrades are icing on the cake.

We lost Sherman, but check out how many posts on this board over the past two years have recommended getting rid of him? Kam? Same thing. There's an active thread about Earl Thomas, even. You can find posts about how Sheldon Richardson was rubbish and not worth having back. How Graham wasn't worth his salary. How Paul Richardson was a draft bust.

So we get rid of them and now we have this litany of woe about how we're rebuilding and can't possibly compete this year.

This is truly a "special" place.

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chris98251":2t1w06hi said:

KiwiHawk":2t1w06hi said:

You guys get that we have a new OL coach, right? One whose entire philosophy is not built around the OL diving at the DL's knees and ending up on the ground, which hasn't been effective since cut blocks were made illegal?

That alone upgrades the OL. Any player upgrades are icing on the cake.

We lost Sherman, but check out how many posts on this board over the past two years have recommended getting rid of him? Kam? Same thing. There's an active thread about Earl Thomas, even. You can find posts about how Sheldon Richardson was rubbish and not worth having back. How Graham wasn't worth his salary. How Paul Richardson was a draft bust.

So we get rid of them and now we have this litany of woe about how we're rebuilding and can't possibly compete this year.

This is truly a "special" place.

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The common sense aspect of new O line coach, New OC, loss of players on both offense and defense and no proven replacements says it will take a while to learn a new playbook, assemble the new line, get a Running game that's adequate, find out who is going to play on the D line and the secondary, we also don't know how much Norton is going to have as far as say on the Defense.

Now lets add that this team has started slow every year Pete has been here.

Ya really think were taking this division by storm and going to challenge for the Super Bowl this coming season?

Practical thinking says no, we are setting the table for assembly of a team next year that will be set for another 5 to 7 year run when we have our draft picks and salary cap space to work with.

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KiwiHawk":2wq3j9s4 said:

You guys get that we have a new OL coach, right? One whose entire philosophy is not built around the OL diving at the DL's knees and ending up on the ground, which hasn't been effective since cut blocks were made illegal?

That alone upgrades the OL. Any player upgrades are icing on the cake.

We lost Sherman, but check out how many posts on this board over the past two years have recommended getting rid of him? Kam? Same thing. There's an active thread about Earl Thomas, even. You can find posts about how Sheldon Richardson was rubbish and not worth having back. How Graham wasn't worth his salary. How Paul Richardson was a draft bust.

So we get rid of them and now we have this litany of woe about how we're rebuilding and can't possibly compete this year.

This is truly a "special" place.

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Uncle Si":39l9twuw said:

So far...

Out:
Sherman, Bennett, Shead, Rawls, Davis, P. Richardson, S. Richardson, Graham

In:
Alexander, Mingo, Brown, Dickson

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