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jammerhawk":1n3wgojy said:
FIFY.
Yeah, that was a signature Ruskell brainfart, keeping two kickers on the roster.
Jon tells John... "I'm going to make you look really dumb"
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FIFY.
Yeah, that was a signature Ruskell brainfart, keeping two kickers on the roster.
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olyfan63":qa5squdz said:
They may need 2 kickers if Dickson cannot hold like Ryan. We've seen what can happen with a crappy FG holder out there, so that is something that will be part of the equation on who to keep.
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sutz":210g9z6l said:That's what backup QB's are for.Seymour":210g9z6l said:
Should be. But when Ryan went down it was Marigos to the rescue here (for the botch).
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let's say this goes down to the wire...do you think a trade can happen prior the final cut?
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truehawksfan":2g2l7i5x said:
Nahhh..Kickers in general are not considered worthy of draft picks. That is why some were laughing at us for trading up to snag a punter.
Other teams know we will cut him and they will just wait it out.
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Slightly disagree.Seymour":zeesucbl said:
When he's cut it'll be a free-for-all by all teams without a decent punter. If a team trades a 7th-round pick for him, they get rights to him without the free-for-all.
So there is a small value in trading for him, just not a big one.
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KiwiHawk":2e6un8g9 said:
That is fine. We will see soon enough who is correct here.
Keep in mind. I said kickers IN GENERAL are not worthy of picks, not never.
Also, I said nahh because Ryan is a fairly average punter at this point in his career...not a top prospect like Dickson.
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thanks. I can't recall if a team traded a kicker in the past...but if Ryan shows up in preseason games....don't know.
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Love Jon and hope he gets a job somewhere. Ironically it's his hands that will save his job in Seattle if he has any chance at all.
The team needs someone like Dickson who can help the team dominate field position like they did so well in 2013. Ryan's best years are behind him.
The team needs someone like Dickson who can help the team dominate field position like they did so well in 2013. Ryan's best years are behind him.
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McGough held in college. I'm sure he gets the nod this year. We aren't paying an extra 2 millionish just for Ryan's hands. Either he comes away as the clear and away best punter, or he's gone. (He's gone IMHO).
Dickson would have to fail on an epic level to lose the punter position to Ryan. Love Ryan, hometown boy from Saskatchewan. But he's pricey, older and likely peaked a few years ago.
Last thing you want to do is cut Dickson and have him go on to be a perennial All -pro for someone else just because your current old punter is a better holder on FG's.
Last thing you want to do is cut Dickson and have him go on to be a perennial All -pro for someone else just because your current old punter is a better holder on FG's.
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Always have a quarterback hold, brings another element to the game.
Dumber yet, have Dickson drop kick field goals, extra points and kickoffs and save two roster spots!
Dumber yet, have Dickson drop kick field goals, extra points and kickoffs and save two roster spots!
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Assuming all reports are true - which is always a dangerous assumption, I freely admit - then even with Ryan at the peak of his career there's no way we would keep him over Dickson.
Dickson is reported to be not just a standout but a generational talent, and those guys sometimes end up in the Hall.
No, I am not putting Dickson in the HOF. I am saying IF the reports are true then he could be a generational talent, and IF he's a generational talent then SOMETIMES they make it to the HOF.
So I'm saying there's a chance...
Dickson is reported to be not just a standout but a generational talent, and those guys sometimes end up in the Hall.
No, I am not putting Dickson in the HOF. I am saying IF the reports are true then he could be a generational talent, and IF he's a generational talent then SOMETIMES they make it to the HOF.
So I'm saying there's a chance...
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KiwiHawk":1dysnw27 said:
Jesus he has yet to kick anything in pre season and were talking HOF, let the off season get over ASAP. Ray Guy is the stick everyone is measured against as a Punter, meet his numbers and then start the talk.
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You guys stop being excited!! :2thumbs:
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SoulfishHawk":32snb0d2 said:
LOL :lol:
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You get the "so there's a chance" quote, right?chris98251":3c0qiz1m said:
Crap maybe it's too obscure or old for you. I hate having to explain references, particularly ones i thought were global memes.
So there's this movie called Dumb and Dumber...
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KiwiHawk":1h8k1jqh said:
Every punter in High School and College and on a Pro team has a chance, since there is only 1 Punter in the Hall I think it's worse then trying to win the Lottery with a person like Ray Guy as the expectation.
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