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Hawk1217":15gg4jhb said:
Scary thing is Wagner is siding with Earl and his decision to holdout. Could be a sign of things to come.
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Scary thing is Wagner is siding with Earl and his decision to holdout. Could be a sign of things to come.
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pittpnthrs":3i1aocic said:
Not really. Wagner said he hoped Earl would come back, but that he understands both sides. Don't expect teammates to trash one another, which would not be productive either.
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Actually, there are some interesting quotes from Wagner on the subject that have not exactly proven to be accurate as far as the Seahawks are concerned.
Marshawn Lynch "retired" for a year and was allowed to keep millions of dollars in signing bonus. Kam Chancellor recently "retired," but he will continue to be paid million of dollars on the payroll over the next two seasons.
Marshawn Lynch "retired" for a year and was allowed to keep millions of dollars in signing bonus. Kam Chancellor recently "retired," but he will continue to be paid million of dollars on the payroll over the next two seasons.
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The issue is that his interests and the Seahawks interests don’t line up.
He wants one more big contract before he retires.
Because he’s the best player in the league at his position, it’s cheaper for the Seahawks to force him to play out his deal and then to franchise him twice than to give him that contract. After his deal and two franchise tags he’s too old to get the big last contract he wants.
His only recourse is to stay away, or to be so difficult that it’s no longer in the Seahawks interest to not renegotiate or move on from him. The Seahawks are acting within the confines of the CBA just as he is acting within the confines of the CBA.
The problem is that the CBA kinda screws over guys who are the best at their position with one big contract left in them because it’s cheaper to just franchise tag those guys twice, which underpays them (see also Le’Veon Bell).
He wants one more big contract before he retires.
Because he’s the best player in the league at his position, it’s cheaper for the Seahawks to force him to play out his deal and then to franchise him twice than to give him that contract. After his deal and two franchise tags he’s too old to get the big last contract he wants.
His only recourse is to stay away, or to be so difficult that it’s no longer in the Seahawks interest to not renegotiate or move on from him. The Seahawks are acting within the confines of the CBA just as he is acting within the confines of the CBA.
The problem is that the CBA kinda screws over guys who are the best at their position with one big contract left in them because it’s cheaper to just franchise tag those guys twice, which underpays them (see also Le’Veon Bell).
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Popeyejones":3187sfp6 said:
More like his interests and his tactic/actions don't line up. He devalued his brand, limited his market appeal, and made himself the high risk, flat reward proposition to 30 GM/HCs in the league. He needs a branding publicist, and start listening to his agent, oh, stop opening his mouth helps.
Popeyejones":2zhd5pw9 said:
I followed along every step of the way up until that very last sentence. Given that this former #1 draft pick has already seen checks totaling 50.7 million dollars, I just can't gabble with the notion that he has somehow been screwed. :177692: Now if the subject were a late blooming undrafted player facing his last opportunity to secure a big contract, that I could empathize and get my mind around.
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^^^ The last sentence is about how in practice the franchise tag pays below market rate for the top player at a position. That’s particularly the case for guys going into their last big deal, and to add, also particularly the case in a rising cap era like we’re in.
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BINGO! Exactly!Trrrroy":30vawltp said:
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How so? "I'm retiring....nevermind." "Come get me Dallas...... I want to be a Seahawk for life." Yeah, sounds like ittoffee":qisqi9bw said:
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vin.couve12":2x1wura7 said:
What is with this ‘if you don’t want me talk? Players getting ahead of themselves these days. If players aren’t extended early and resetting the market for their position or the nfl they feel ‘disrespected’.
Even if we don’t extend at the number he wants, that doesn’t mean the team doesn’t want him.
The end of LOB is a sad, pathetic tale.
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Jimjones0384":307goor1 said:
Earl wants to be the highest paid FS as a cowgirl.
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I am SO tired of him saying how much of an underdog he is and wanting respect and all that crap. His current contract, at the time he signed it, made him the highest-paid safety in the NFL. That's top-dog respect.
The fact that players have signed contracts after him that make them higher paid does NOTHING to diminish the fact that we made him the highest-paid safety at the time.
I hate to say it because I understand how critical the safety position is to a defense and I understand how exceptional Thomas is, but his attitude is becoming a big problem with me, and I can't expect that it is playing any better with his teammates.
The fact that players have signed contracts after him that make them higher paid does NOTHING to diminish the fact that we made him the highest-paid safety at the time.
I hate to say it because I understand how critical the safety position is to a defense and I understand how exceptional Thomas is, but his attitude is becoming a big problem with me, and I can't expect that it is playing any better with his teammates.
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chris98251":3gjgosod said:
He is just keeping himself in the headlines hoping to make something happen, he does not understand it makes his case as a disguruntled problem child stronger and drives his value down all the more for whomever does sign him to his next contract.
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chris98251":12ubhpwa said:
This.
Dude badly need a professional publicist, and start listening to his agent. Earl must understand he ain’t Sherm, he didn’t have Sheri’s smart in promoting his brand.
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Yawwwnnn...this guy wants out bad. Not sure why we cant dump him for a draft pick from some team. I'm guessing his market value is too low at present time. The rebuild is on and he doesn't want to be here.
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Mmmmhmm. Writing is and has been on the wall. Hawks need to take the best offer and move on. Doesn't matter who it is.
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