4 wins? USA today predicted a 4-12 Hawks 2018 season.
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toffee":cijuprg0 said:
Maybe he is detailing Roll's to feed his children since he is not playing.
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acer1240":2a3j31yh said:
I am. Just sayin, we gotta be better to keep getting the W.
Steve2222":2p3zdtmp said:
Because most of us abide by the work contracts we sign and don’t try to take advantage of our employers. We accept our pay and are grateful we have a job and can keep a roof over our heads and feed our families.
And overpaying athletes hurts the team with a salary cap. Fans support team success, not player success.
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Mad Dog":1pw4znax said:
May be Steve2222 should try to demand more salary with his boss and see what happens? Oh middle finger the boss and all co-worker while he is at it? haha make sure someone video it.
acer1240":2xhyvy9x said:
Exactly!
We're 3-3, one game better that I'd thought we'd be at this point. Wth a couple breaks we're easily 4-2 5-1 at best. The young guys are hitting their stride and getting more comfortable.
Come mid December, no sane team is going to want to play us, but the beauty is they're going to have too!
Enjoy this year people...2012 once again.
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toffee":1b71pysf said:
It's almost like athletes, actors, and other celebrities work in different fields than the average person and that those jobs have different rules and expectations.
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toffee":2kyqs7hs said:
Dude, this is totally, like the POST OF THE WEEK!!
I'm just imagining how it would go over if I went to my boss and demanded more money and when I didn't immediately get it, flipped off him and the rest of my work team. (HInt: It wouldn't go over well)
Oh, and also, last year, I went fawning to a potential boss of another organization in my industry, telling them to "come get me!"
When we translate Earl's behavior into regular working stiff terms, it sure comes across as entitled and detached from the reality the rest of us working stiffs deal with.
We STILL talking about ET? That's ancient history now, get over it.
The eye test is telling me this is a better team than the one that went 9-7 last year. Of course, that team opened 5-2 and lost very winnable games against Atlanta and Washington, before injuries derailed much of the season.
By that same token, if we could have scored 4 points more in each of our losses we'd have finished 12-4.
This year we're scoring 0.9PPG more than last year and conceding 1.3 less (so 2.2 PPG differential). That's having played 4 road games to 2 home games.
There's not a single game left on the schedule that I don't think we can win. Certainly the Chiefs and Rams games look tough, but as last week showed, we can definitely get in about the Rams, and the Chiefs defense is terrible. Over the last 4 games we've rushed for 629 yards - more than 16 teams have managed since the start of the season, and at 157 YPG would rank first if continued over the course of the season.
Winning the division is probably out of reach, but not certainly. The Rams have a tough stretch coming up which includes the Packers, Saints, Chiefs and Seahawks. If we win our next 4 (big if) and the Rams drop 1 other, then we can start to put pressure on them and who knows how things will go.
It's definitely unlikely that we win the division, but 11-5 I see as a definite possibility.
The eye test is telling me this is a better team than the one that went 9-7 last year. Of course, that team opened 5-2 and lost very winnable games against Atlanta and Washington, before injuries derailed much of the season.
By that same token, if we could have scored 4 points more in each of our losses we'd have finished 12-4.
This year we're scoring 0.9PPG more than last year and conceding 1.3 less (so 2.2 PPG differential). That's having played 4 road games to 2 home games.
There's not a single game left on the schedule that I don't think we can win. Certainly the Chiefs and Rams games look tough, but as last week showed, we can definitely get in about the Rams, and the Chiefs defense is terrible. Over the last 4 games we've rushed for 629 yards - more than 16 teams have managed since the start of the season, and at 157 YPG would rank first if continued over the course of the season.
Winning the division is probably out of reach, but not certainly. The Rams have a tough stretch coming up which includes the Packers, Saints, Chiefs and Seahawks. If we win our next 4 (big if) and the Rams drop 1 other, then we can start to put pressure on them and who knows how things will go.
It's definitely unlikely that we win the division, but 11-5 I see as a definite possibility.
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Smellyman":2rrcunlr said:
In my work, I am essentially a resource that gets contracted out to different business areas. And while they do watch me work, and pay for it, they also expect (and get) tangible and lasting deliverables that serve their business needs. I don't set out to "entertain" them as such but there is nearly always some drama in the process.
Earl's world of work as an "entertainer" is not as far detached from the working-stiff reality as AlciG (not Smellyman) is suggesting. "The SAME"? No, but that's not a real question, and there are *plenty* of PARALLELs between Earl's world and the working-stiff world of (many of) us. If I got food poisoning during a team presentation to a client organization, barfed and collapsed and had to be carted out, and flipped off my boss and team while being carted out, it would not be well received by my boss and team, and would leave the client organization much less confident in the whole situation, wondering about this unhinged sick person flipping off his boss, and just how dysfunctional my company is, and why they should have any degree of confidence or trust in the entire situation.
Earl in fact tries to present himself in the media as simply a working man trying to provide for his family.
It's just really nice lately having the conversation be about the TEAM and not about Earl's dysfunction.
olyfan63":oophd7ac said:
Exactly. And whatever industry you work in if one of the best workers is hard to work with and team morale is down because of him/her, it will have repercussions up and down the team. No matter how good one person is they can't be above the team/company goal.
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Edited my original post to correctly attribute "really not the same" properly, to AlciG, not Smellyman. (Thank you for your patience, o pungent one)
Clearly, a Hawk fan named Smellyman would not be the one to talk about people *watching* him work; obviously people would be around Smellyman for the olfactory experience, and could even be blindfolded. Or maybe Smellyman is one of the guys that throw and catch salmon at Pike Place Market, so people pay to watch him AND get the olfactory experience as well as part of the deal. I could certainly see Smellyman flipping off a team member for a bad salmon toss as he is wheeled out, concussed from a 60mph* salmon to the head. THAT would be understandable.
OK, upon further review, Smellyman lists his location as Taipei, so he's clearly not a Pike Place fish tosser. I'm sure there are plenty of powerfully aromatic experiences in Taiwan to account for his board name.
*Meanwhile, the Seahawks and Mariners are fighting it out for contract rights to the dude who can toss a damn salmon freakin 60mph.
Clearly, a Hawk fan named Smellyman would not be the one to talk about people *watching* him work; obviously people would be around Smellyman for the olfactory experience, and could even be blindfolded. Or maybe Smellyman is one of the guys that throw and catch salmon at Pike Place Market, so people pay to watch him AND get the olfactory experience as well as part of the deal. I could certainly see Smellyman flipping off a team member for a bad salmon toss as he is wheeled out, concussed from a 60mph* salmon to the head. THAT would be understandable.
OK, upon further review, Smellyman lists his location as Taipei, so he's clearly not a Pike Place fish tosser. I'm sure there are plenty of powerfully aromatic experiences in Taiwan to account for his board name.
*Meanwhile, the Seahawks and Mariners are fighting it out for contract rights to the dude who can toss a damn salmon freakin 60mph.
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Smellyman":1zpjmyn4 said:
Respectfully, these points are beyond silly and illogical. Makes no sense whatsoever.
First off, MOST of you aren't risking brain injury, or your bodies for entertainment. Comparing an NFL player to an average Joe at work is laughable and envious. There's so much bitterness by some in our society that athletes and entertainers make millions compared to the average Joe, and it's pitiful. That's never been the way business and entertainment works.
Second, most workers in America are cogs in the machine. The stars in ANY work place? They can make demands, they can walk in the office and demand a raise. And some employers are actually afraid to lose a worker like that.
All athletes are not built the same. If they were, then Lebron James or Steph Curry wouldn't add immense value to a franchise. Having elite athletes mean more revenue for the owners, it means more ticket sales, it means more media attention and credibility. Ask the Chicago Bears what business looked like during the Jay Cutler era, then ask them what it's like now during the Khalil Mack era. Major difference. Stop with the envy, and the bitterness, and simply accept that athletes are a major part of the NFL business. Otherwise you become a bottom dwelling team for decades. I hated the way Earl handled things, but he has a RIGHT to want to build on his success. Building generational wealth for his family for decades to come. Being able to give his family the highest quality of life for generations, all because of the work they put in. Athletes work hard to get where they are and they've EARNED their big contracts. Without great players and coaches the value of a franchise goes down. If we're gonna discuss this let's at least have a logical conversation
Never said a thing about money, they could make more I don't care.
Just made the simple point that every industry has clients (fans in this case).
And if you start rocking the boat too much, Sherm, Bennett, Earl etc., you will be jettisoned like every other employee on earth.
Just made the simple point that every industry has clients (fans in this case).
And if you start rocking the boat too much, Sherm, Bennett, Earl etc., you will be jettisoned like every other employee on earth.
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