semiahmoo":n4a0uwdz said:
Can't take much from the Raiders win beyond just enjoying it. They suck and are clearly calling it in these days.
Next couple games will really determine what level of team the Seahawks are.
The teams is improved no doubt and that's great to see.
How much remains unknown at this time.
As for Pete, we won't return to a legit playoff threat type team until he's gone
It's just fascinating how posters who have some interesting and thought provoking things to say at times can be so down on Pete as to say, "we won't return to a legit playoff threat... until he's gone."
Wow, yes, let's bring in another Tom Flores, another Jim Mora Jr., maybe a Jeff Fisher, or some other retread or unproven.
And the next kill will be made by... Ben Richards!!
And the next Seahawks playoffs team will be coached by... Pete Carroll!!
Yes, many criticisms of Pete are valid, but ignore how Pete has successfully reinvented and adapted *multiple* times during the last couple decades. Yes, Pete 3.5 was very frustrating to watch, and missed the playoffs. I think this year we are getting Pete 4.0.
Pete 1.0: NY Jets, SF 49ers DC, New England Patriots, 1994-99, Defensive guru, average failed NFL HC
Pete 2.0: USC Trojans, 2000-2009, College kids master motivator and recruiter, 2-time National Champion
Pete 3.0: Seattle Seahawks, 2010-2014, from 7-9 to 11-5, 13-3, 12-4, SB48 Champs, Cheap young roster, Lynch
Pete 3.5: Seattle Seahawks, 2015-2017, 10-6, 10-5-1, 9-7, hamstrung by CaBevell, Expensive old roster, pass-happy
Pete 4.0: Seattle Seahawks, 2018-?, 3-3 so far, cheap young roster, expensive QB, smashmouth running game returns
As for me, I'm excited to see what Pete 4.0 turns out. Pete 3.5 was crippled by his unwavering loyalty to Tom Cable and Darrell Bevell and their now-substandard offensive schemes and techniques.
Does anyone remember Microsoft Bob? Yeah, that was Pete 3.5. Just kidding. Pete 3.5 was Windows 8.
Pete in Microsoft versions:
Pete 3.0: Windows 7. It was solid and it worked. Still does.
Pete 3.5: Windows 8. That one sucked and I hated it. No Start Menu (running game)
Pete 4.0: Windows 10. New version, a return to basics, a re-architecting. The Start menu returns.
I don't think many .NET posters give Pete as much credit as he deserves for evolving and reinventing himself and his teams. I guarantee he is paying close, close attention to the Rams and their offense, both from the standpoint of a defensive genius figuring out how to stop their attack, and from the offensive point of view of "hey Brian, how come WE aren't doing things on offense that cause such huge problems for defenses, the way the Rams are?" And Brian is taking those instructions to heart, and we will be seeing the Schotty version of McVay flattery more and more in the Hawks offense. (Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery) Much as Pete's defensive schemes have been analyzed and dissected, McVay's success with the Rams will be analyzed, dissected, and imitated.
It's already been progress, seeing the O-Line improvement, seeing us run the ball for 150 yards a game, seeing Russell have time to throw at least part of the time. One of the biggest differences so far, is seeing less of Russell's bail-out move, where he bails out of the back of the pocket and turns a 5 yard sack into a 20 yard sack.
There are 31 other teams and head coaches out there all scheming on how they can beat us and everyone else and win the Super Bowl. For a second Lombardi, I like our chances with Pete far more than with any other FOTM option. It's nice when a Sean McVay story happens, but the next young buck coach comes with no guarantees.
