New look at the Interception...

As much as I hated the call at first and still somewhat do, I can see why Russ took this shot. Great play by the CB on this.

I think we all can agree that the play call was horrible. That being said, it looked like it was there in all the replays. The DB just made one hell of a break on the ball and went harder to the ball.

As horrid as the play call was, it STILL should have been a TD. It required a phenomenal play from Butler to get the INT, and Lockette was the last WR I would want in that position for that play.

Austin Hawk":16eckr7t said:

I think we all can agree that the play call was horrible. That being said, it looked like it was there in all the replays. The DB just made one hell of a break on the ball and went harder to the ball.

As horrid as the play call was, it STILL should have been a TD. It required a phenomenal play from Butler to get the INT, and Lockette was the last WR I would want in that position for that play.

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Much rather Lockette be blocking on that play, the beastquake run against the Cards this season Lockette played a major roll in getting out and blocking because he is fairly strong I think he could have gotten a better jam on Browner. I think he was surprised and knocked off balance that Butler was there at that point, that said I'd strongly prefer Mathewes, Baldwin or Kearse maybe even Willson, Lynch, or Turbin to be the target on that play.

heartbreaking

KatarHol":2m2idmmt said:

heartbreaking

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Naw we are the only team to go to the Super Bowl twice in the past two seasons and win one. Check out Russell on twitter right now he's at Seattle children's hospital moving on with life and helping kids feel better. One play doesn't define him nor does it define our club.

Yup, a game of inches and he fought for and won that final inch.

Play was horrible yes....But the X-factor was browner. Look at that angle, he was pulling kearse away so Butler had a straight shot to the play. Browner killed that play before the ball even moved.

I understand the idea of what Pete and Bevell were TRYING to do. But that was the wrong play, and definitely the wrong DB to attack in that scenario.

swagcity21":3n2by5h4 said:

definitely the wrong DB to attack in that scenario.

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Was the play call bad? Yes

But this WAS the CB you wanted to attack out of the others that were on the field. From the snapshot in this pic, Baldwin wasn't going anywhere.

Russ took the shot because that was the call, and there's no way he burns our final timeout, KNOWING we ultimately want to run it in.

It was still a terrible call, not only in general but from a personnel standpoint too.

Look, we've benefitted from our coaches for 3 years now, and from our players, and from taking chances--but this one backfired at the most awful time imaginable.

The great play by the DB only serves to underscore Bevell's faults above and beyond that particular call.

Butler was able to make such a great play because he knew it was coming because...drum roll...that's all we ever run out of that formation according to Patriots players.

It was absolutely a great play. But if there's some sort of notion that the great play by the defender is something we just shrug our shoulders at, that notion should be dispelled.

Lockette and Kearse only failed during the play itself (if you call Kearse not pushing through Browner a failure and you blame Lockette for being what he is - a special teams player who wears a number in the 80s). Bevell managed to fail in all the play calls out of that formation prior to the play, as well as on this particular play call itself.

From that angle, it still shocks me that Lockette wasnt the one who came away with the catch.....it looks as if had he attacked the ball (taken a step towards it) instead of letting it come to him he would have been able to stave off the defender and beat the other safety into the zone. But man he had inside position at that point.....

As bad as that play call was, I still contest that ends up as a TD or a drop 999 times out of 1000.

Gut. Wrenching.

After watching this over and over and over ... I think Lockette takes the blame for this. I know we should have given it to Lynch, we should have run the read option, the QB sneak ... blah blah blah ...

Think about this for a minute.
You are a fringe player, you have been cut endless times, you are given a chance to make the play of your life, your name is called ... and you act like you don't care? Lockette didn't act like he even wanted that ball.
I doubt he is coming back.

hawk45":22u5tw7d said:

The great play by the DB only serves to underscore Bevell's faults above and beyond that particular call.

Butler was able to make such a great play because he knew it was coming because...drum roll...that's all we ever run out of that formation according to Patriots players.

It was absolutely a great play. But if there's some sort of notion that the great play by the defender is something we just shrug our shoulders at, that notion should be dispelled.

Lockette and Kearse only failed during the play itself (if you call Kearse not pushing through Browner a failure and you blame Lockette for being what he is - a special teams player who wears a number in the 80s). Bevell managed to fail in all the play calls out of that formation prior to the play, as well as on this particular play call itself.

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This. My biggest issue with the playcall was that it was predictable. Against a coach like Bill, it shrinks the margin for error too far. Could the play have worked? Yes, but the chances for failure were so much higher. Mentioned it elsewhere, but I really wish they'd used the perceived predictability to fool the other team.

The Patriots CB made a great play and the Patriots defense knew it was coming. They practiced it. Still a great play by the CB who won the battle by an inch. Hard to fault Wilson or the WR on that play.

Still, if I am the OC for Seattle, there is NO WAY I don't hand that ball off to Lynch!

joeseahawks":37fsdggx said:

After watching this over and over and over ... I think Lockette takes the blame for this. I know we should have given it to Lynch, we should have run the read option, the QB sneak ... blah blah blah ...

Think about this for a minute.
You are a fringe player, you have been cut endless times, you are given a chance to make the play of your life, your name is called ... and you act like you don't care? Lockette didn't act like he even wanted that ball.
I doubt he is coming back.

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Very much agree.

I know we are all overanalyzing this play, but he seems to just lope his way through the route, only to get blasted at the point of no return.

no sense of urgency or aggression from my untrained eye at all.

Yes it looked like a safe throw from RW's perspective. Hats off to the Pats D back for making a great play and for Browner knowing what was coming and busting it up.
That's doesn't change the fact the play call still doesn't make sense, even in that still shot. That's what happens when you try and outthink the situation / get cute. That's the thought I had as soon as RW dropped back to pass and is still my thoughts on the results of the play. Every person in that stadium and who was watching knew what should have happened instead of what did happen. I talk to a lot of people during the day, most are Hawk fans, but I found 3 Patriots fans yesterday. Weird that they work for a metal fabricator in Spokane.. Everyone said the same thing including the Pats fans, they knew Lynch was going to get the ball and the Pats D was not going to stop him, it would have more a matter of how many people he drug in to the end zone with him. There would have been what, 20 seconds on the clock and they had one timeout.

It's water under the bridge now, it's over and the Pats walked away feeling a lot like the Hawks did 2 weeks ago but with the ultimate award.

joeseahawks":2w4pgqio said:

After watching this over and over and over ... I think Lockette takes the blame for this. I know we should have given it to Lynch, we should have run the read option, the QB sneak ... blah blah blah ...

Think about this for a minute.
You are a fringe player, you have been cut endless times, you are given a chance to make the play of your life, your name is called ... and you act like you don't care? Lockette didn't act like he even wanted that ball.
I doubt he is coming back.

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Could it be...now I'm about to go out on a limb here but stay with me...that Lockette has been a career backup and specialist for a reason? If only there was a way for the OC to have foreseen that such a player might not be the one to throw a dangerous quick slant to with the Superbowl on the line, as opposed to having his badass QB rollout and make a decision, or hand it to the franchise identity running back.

Nah, that's not on Bevell. Damn you Lockette!!!! *shakes fist*

doesn't matter..shouldn't of happened..but if were gonna critique the play..why throw to the 5th receiver on your depth chart and the pass should have been lower and a foot over..it was a recipe for disaster the moment it was called.

Hawkpower":1mr14fs9 said:

From that angle, it still shocks me that Lockette wasnt the one who came away with the catch.....it looks as if had he attacked the ball (taken a step towards it) instead of letting it come to him he would have been able to stave off the defender and beat the other safety into the zone. But man he had inside position at that point.....

As bad as that play call was, I still contest that ends up as a TD or a drop 999 times out of 1000.

Gut. Wrenching.

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On the contrary because of the predictability of the formation and the skill level of the Pat's coaches in preparation, in reality it's a very low percentage play.

Leaving the play call aside, Russell could have thrown a better pass, and Lockette could have done A LOT more....as a WR in that situation, you do everything possible to put your whole body in front of the ball. Just extending your arms in a pass like that and with the defenders that close to you :141847_bnono: