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QB
Starting: Russell Wilson
QB2: BJ Daniels
I think overall we will move on from TJack. I could see us bringing him in for Training Camp to see if he was still a clear step up from Daniels, but if it were close I see them saving the money.

RB
Starting: Marshawn Lynch
RB2: Draft
RB3: Robert Turbin
RB4: Christine Michael
I think there is a 75% chance Lynch is with the team next year. I know there is a question of whether or not he will extend, but he still on contract for next year and he doesn't strike me as the type to leave 7mil+ on the table. That being said, I know he is the very definition of unpredictable, so who really knows. Whether or not he stays I think we spend some sort of draft capital on a RB, and even though I like Turbin I could see the new guy above Turbin on the depth chart if he was talented enough and could block as well as Tom Cable wanted him to block. Unless Christine Michael takes a big step up I see him ending his Seahawks career a bust(not that thats what I am hoping for).

FB
Starting: Will Tukuafu
As much as I like Coleman, and his incredible back story, I like the flexibility Tukuafu brings. We don't have to dedicate a roster spot to a dedicated FB, as he spells time on the DLine as well. FB is a dying position on the NFL, even on the Seahawks. While people have pointing out Coleman presents a better receiving target out of the backfield, I think we have to ask ourselves how often they really use the FB to do that, vs how often they ask them to block, and I believe Tukuafu has much better lead blocking skills than Coleman. And I think the FB-pass route plays are more based on surprise vs having a fullback that can run routes well.

WR
WR1: Doug Baldwin
WR2: Jermaine Kearse/Draft/FA
WR3: Kevin Norwood
WR4: Paul Richardson
WR5: Draft/Chris Matthews
Next year I think Doug Baldwin will still be the #1 WR on our roster. I am not sure what to think of Kearse, I do think they like rewarding their own guys, but he just seems so run-of-the mill sometimes and with how tight $$ will be this season, I don't know if they can afford to put a 2-3 million dollar tender on him vs. the salary of someone drafted in the 2nd or even 1st if they chose to go that way. Or save the money and put it towards a better WR from the FA market. I think Paul Richardson does end up higher on the depth chart, but without knowing the timeline for the recovery from his injury its hard to know how he starts the season, if he does at all. Although Chris Matthews will forever be remembered for his superbowl heroics... I don't know if that translates to him being on the team next year. He seems to be well-liked and has stuck around all year to compete for his opportunities, so I am leaning towards him being on the team as a depth WR. I see the team moving on from Ricardo Lockette instead of putting a tender on him.

TE
Starting: Zach Miller
TE2: Luke Willson
TE3: Cooper Helfet
Contrary to many people, I do not see the Hawks addressing the TE position in either the draft or free agency. For those of you saying we can trade Miller's salary for that of a receiving TE, this is a team who chose to pay Miller 11 MILLION DOLLARS during a year that had a strong TE class in free agency and he would not have gotten any where near that on the open market. Obviously they value his ability to be basically another Tackle very highly. I think Willson has been progressing nicely and hopefully will overcome his drops tendency as Kearse did. I also think Cooper Helfet has been in the system long enough and shows enough promise to make the 53 next year.

O-Line
LT: Russell Okung
LG: James Carpenter (if $ is right)
C: Lemuel Jeanpierre
RG: J.R. Sweezy
RT: Justin Britt
Backup - Patrick Lewis
Backup - Alvin Bailey/LG if Carp isn't re-signed
Backup - Garry Gilliam
Backup - Draft
Backup - Nate Isles
Ultimately we aren't paying Okung THAT much as a starting quality LT. Health is the only major thing, so I could understand either way if they release him or keep him. Overall I see him staying in Seattle though. I think we move on from Max Unger as he is approaching THAT UNSPEAKABLE AGE that the seahawks front office seem to hate, and he has degraded health wise in recent years. I have seen enough promise from JeanPierre to feel comfortable in him starting, saving us 3.5+mil on Ungers contract.I am not a huge fan of Carp but I could see them paying him as well if the price was right, and no better options existed in free agency or draft. I see Sweezy getting an extension, and Britt remaining the starting RT.
 

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Last I heard, the coaching staff reaffirmed its commitment to the fullback position.

At 280 Will Tukuafu does not have the lateral quickness or change of a direction that a well rounded fullback does.

Both the offense and special teams felt the loss of Derrick Coleman.

Mike Zimmer has been brought in as a LB to FB conversion project.
 

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bbsplitter":1de93mso said:
QB
Starting: Russell Wilson
QB2: BJ Daniels
I think overall we will move on from TJack. I could see us bringing him in for Training Camp to see if he was still a clear step up from Daniels, but if it were close I see them saving the money.

RB
Starting: Marshawn Lynch
RB2: Draft
RB3: Robert Turbin
RB4: Christine Michael
I think there is a 75% chance Lynch is with the team next year. I know there is a question of whether or not he will extend, but he still on contract for next year and he doesn't strike me as the type to leave 7mil+ on the table. That being said, I know he is the very definition of unpredictable, so who really knows. Whether or not he stays I think we spend some sort of draft capital on a RB, and even though I like Turbin I could see the new guy above Turbin on the depth chart if he was talented enough and could block as well as Tom Cable wanted him to block. Unless Christine Michael takes a big step up I see him ending his Seahawks career a bust(not that thats what I am hoping for).

FB
Starting: Will Tukuafu
As much as I like Coleman, and his incredible back story, I like the flexibility Tukuafu brings. We don't have to dedicate a roster spot to a dedicated FB, as he spells time on the DLine as well. FB is a dying position on the NFL, even on the Seahawks. While people have pointing out Coleman presents a better receiving target out of the backfield, I think we have to ask ourselves how often they really use the FB to do that, vs how often they ask them to block, and I believe Tukuafu has much better lead blocking skills than Coleman. And I think the FB-pass route plays are more based on surprise vs having a fullback that can run routes well.

WR
WR1: Doug Baldwin
WR2: Jermaine Kearse/Draft/FA
WR3: Kevin Norwood
WR4: Paul Richardson
WR5: Draft/Chris Matthews
Next year I think Doug Baldwin will still be the #1 WR on our roster. I am not sure what to think of Kearse, I do think they like rewarding their own guys, but he just seems so run-of-the mill sometimes and with how tight $$ will be this season, I don't know if they can afford to put a 2-3 million dollar tender on him vs. the salary of someone drafted in the 2nd or even 1st if they chose to go that way. Or save the money and put it towards a better WR from the FA market. I think Paul Richardson does end up higher on the depth chart, but without knowing the timeline for the recovery from his injury its hard to know how he starts the season, if he does at all. Although Chris Matthews will forever be remembered for his superbowl heroics... I don't know if that translates to him being on the team next year. He seems to be well-liked and has stuck around all year to compete for his opportunities, so I am leaning towards him being on the team as a depth WR. I see the team moving on from Ricardo Lockette instead of putting a tender on him.

TE
Starting: Zach Miller
TE2: Luke Willson
TE3: Cooper Helfet
Contrary to many people, I do not see the Hawks addressing the TE position in either the draft or free agency. For those of you saying we can trade Miller's salary for that of a receiving TE, this is a team who chose to pay Miller 11 MILLION DOLLARS during a year that had a strong TE class in free agency and he would not have gotten any where near that on the open market. Obviously they value his ability to be basically another Tackle very highly. I think Willson has been progressing nicely and hopefully will overcome his drops tendency as Kearse did. I also think Cooper Helfet has been in the system long enough and shows enough promise to make the 53 next year.

O-Line
LT: Russell Okung
LG: James Carpenter (if $ is right)
C: Lemuel Jeanpierre
RG: J.R. Sweezy
RT: Justin Britt
Backup - Patrick Lewis
Backup - Alvin Bailey/LG if Carp isn't re-signed
Backup - Garry Gilliam
Backup - Draft
Backup - Nate Isles
Ultimately we aren't paying Okung THAT much as a starting quality LT. Health is the only major thing, so I could understand either way if they release him or keep him. Overall I see him staying in Seattle though. I think we move on from Max Unger as he is approaching THAT UNSPEAKABLE AGE that the seahawks front office seem to hate, and he has degraded health wise in recent years. I have seen enough promise from JeanPierre to feel comfortable in him starting, saving us 3.5+mil on Ungers contract.I am not a huge fan of Carp but I could see them paying him as well if the price was right, and no better options existed in free agency or draft. I see Sweezy getting an extension, and Britt remaining the starting RT.


Well, this looks to be a lot better than this years offense.
 

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I agree on Tuku over Coleman. Tukuafu is an intimidating specimen, a good lead blocker, and one of the rare players good enough to play on both sides of the ball. He's real bang for your buck.
 
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Jville":23hmcfvd said:
Last I heard, the coaching staff reaffirmed its commitment to the fullback position.

At 280 Will Tukuafu does not have the lateral quickness or change of a direction that a well rounded fullback does.

Both the offense and special teams felt the loss of Derrick Coleman.

Mike Zimmer has been brought in as a LB to FB conversion project.

What else are they gonna say? "Fullback position sucks and we will be moving away from it?" Who would want to play full back to them then? It doesn't change the fact that statistically they are moving away from using a full back, preferring to run Lynch out of single-back sets. As much as I like the guy I think people are over-rating Coleman. He took a long time to 'click' with Marshawn and often time was beat to the point by a LB or simply over-powered. He did improve but it wasn't to the point of him being a clear-cut better FB than Tukuafu, especially with the progression he has shown even while playing DLine at the same time. Mike Zimmer as listed as a LB and I have seen several tweets that they intend to keep him at LB.
 

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My source is Seahawks.com

36 Zimmer, Mike FB 6-1 237 24 1 Illinois State [urltargetblank]http://www.seahawks.com/team/roster.html#[/urltargetblank]

Will Tukuafu was effective in a crowd.... w/inside zone. Picking up pass rush? Second level? Out in space?

Have not seen the tweets your referring to.

Saw this ...... [tweet]https://twitter.com/Pg_Reinhardt/status/560493490459906049[/tweet]

But whatever ...... just sharing my thoughts.
 
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Jville":2q3raozb said:
My source is Seahawks.com

36 Zimmer, Mike FB 6-1 237 24 1 Illinois State [urltargetblank]http://www.seahawks.com/team/roster.html#[/urltargetblank]

Will Tukuafu was effective in a crowd.... w/inside zone. Picking up pass rush? Second level? Out in space?

Have not seen the tweets your referring to.

Saw this ...... [tweet]https://twitter.com/Pg_Reinhardt/status/560493490459906049[/tweet]

But whatever ...... just sharing my thoughts.

Isn't inside zone one of our most common styles of runs? I don't think they ask the fullback to pick up the pass rush on a man-to-man situation as much as run up and clog the line, thats more of on the RB (usually). Second Level I would say he is equal to Coleman, Coleman has more agility and range but Tuku has a lot more power and finishes some of those blocks that Coleman doesn't. Your correct on Zimmer, looks like my info was old, I just distinctly remember at some point people were saying he was brought in at LB to convert to a FB but then Ian Rapp saying he is now listed only as a LB. He was cut a couple times and brought back though so it's possible they listed him as different things depending on their need at the time.
 

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I have a suspicion Kearse will not be back...someone will thrown him more money. Hawks can't afford to match. Richardson might be gone for a full year after he did show promise at the end...would of been nice to have him in the sb. Norwood showed me nothing with the limited time he had...so who knows?? Baldwin is a slot guy. Matched up against good corners and he does not doo much. Matthews is a who knows after having an mvp performance in the sb. IMO we need to bring in at lest 1 top 3 receiver but it wont come cheap...
 
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As far as WR goes Kearse will not be on this team I honestly don't want him on the team, Baldwin needs to move back to the slot and slot only, only move outside when there's a favorable matchup. Richardson won't play a down this up coming season due to ACL, Norwood didn't show much at all some of you are on crack if you believe differently, if he was all that he would have pushed for more time instead of being active. Granted you can only suit x amount but if he was beasting in practice he could have beaten out someone. Matthews IMO I think he was jus a matchup the Pats didn't expect. Or maybe he can possibly be that player that practices terrible but shows up in games idk... Walters smmfh puking in my mouth. Oh and Lockette he's been in the league long enough to develop if he was gonna develop. Bottom line I think we need a true # 1 in which we won't find with our 1st pick cause it's to low, I think we need to trade for one. We also need another solid wideout not named Baldwin. In a dream world we get Brandon Marshall, and this Douglas McNeil guy is the real deal and he becomes your number 2 then Baldwin in slot then you have role players
 

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Jville":1iw9uvwp said:
My source is Seahawks.com

36 Zimmer, Mike FB 6-1 237 24 1 Illinois State [urltargetblank]http://www.seahawks.com/team/roster.html#[/urltargetblank]

Will Tukuafu was effective in a crowd.... w/inside zone. Picking up pass rush? Second level? Out in space?

Have not seen the tweets your referring to.

Saw this ...... [tweet]https://twitter.com/Pg_Reinhardt/status/560493490459906049[/tweet]

But whatever ...... just sharing my thoughts.

Isn't inside zone one of our most common styles of runs? I don't think they ask the fullback to pick up the pass rush on a man-to-man situation as much as run up and clog the line, thats more of on the RB (usually). Second Level I would say he is equal to Coleman, Coleman has more agility and range but Tuku has a lot more power and finishes some of those blocks that Coleman doesn't. Your correct on Zimmer, looks like my info was old, I just distinctly remember at some point people were saying he was brought in at LB to convert to a FB but then Ian Rapp saying he is now listed only as a LB. He was cut a couple times and brought back though so it's possible they listed him as different things depending on their need at the time.

What they can run is dictated by the talent on the field. Will has 40+ additional pounds he has to maneuver. I recognize him as an inside run specialist. The staff is limited in how they can use him. He is at a match up disadvantage with more mobile linebackers and defensive backs. The other two fullbacks are much more versatile. More conventional fullbacks provide greater play selection and present more uncertainty.

Once they reload the offense, I expect to see their offense thrive on the outside again. But then again ...... that is the offense I am anticipating. What they actually do has yet to be written for 2015.
 

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I'm probably missing something, but Unger is not a free agent and ranks as one of the better centers in the league according to Pro Football Focus. Why are we moving on from him again?
 

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I really hope us addressing WR this offseason means less reliance on Kearse in critical downs. Maybe take a shot with him here and there but he just is not consistent enough to be a #2/#3 for us. Some of his drops are killers. If some team overpays for him I wouldn't be mad seeing him go.

We have to get better at WR, whether that's offering some mid round picks for a guy like Vincent Jackson (salary adjustment needed) or taking a player like that in the draft (tall, high points ball, good positioning, etc). Walters is taking up a roster spot as a sure handed punt returner. Lockette is a good special teams gunner. Baldwin is a solid #2/slot option for our offense if defenses aren't taking him away. Prich showed some serious improvement over the season and was getting some nice separation til he got hurt, so who knows how fast he heals. Norwood didn't show much but hopefully a full off season helps.

We don't need all star receivers to be successful but an infusion of talent at wide receiver is needed.
 

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bbsplitter wrote:
Contrary to many people, I do not see the Hawks addressing the TE position in either the draft or free agency.

» TE Zach Miller: Among the NFL's most overpaid players in recent years, Miller is due a $2 million roster bonus coming off ankle surgery. Luke Willson's late-season emergence shifts Miller from necessity to luxury on a team that will be look to trim excesses.

Most of what I'm reading suggest Zach Miller won't be back as a Seahawk.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... e-seahawks
 

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bbsplitter":33pi1deh said:
QB
Starting: Russell Wilson
QB2: BJ Daniels
I think overall we will move on from TJack. I could see us bringing him in for Training Camp to see if he was still a clear step up from Daniels, but if it were close I see them saving the money.

RB
Starting: Marshawn Lynch
RB2: Draft
RB3: Robert Turbin
RB4: Christine Michael
I think there is a 75% chance Lynch is with the team next year. I know there is a question of whether or not he will extend, but he still on contract for next year and he doesn't strike me as the type to leave 7mil+ on the table. That being said, I know he is the very definition of unpredictable, so who really knows. Whether or not he stays I think we spend some sort of draft capital on a RB, and even though I like Turbin I could see the new guy above Turbin on the depth chart if he was talented enough and could block as well as Tom Cable wanted him to block. Unless Christine Michael takes a big step up I see him ending his Seahawks career a bust(not that thats what I am hoping for).

FB
Starting: Will Tukuafu
As much as I like Coleman, and his incredible back story, I like the flexibility Tukuafu brings. We don't have to dedicate a roster spot to a dedicated FB, as he spells time on the DLine as well. FB is a dying position on the NFL, even on the Seahawks. While people have pointing out Coleman presents a better receiving target out of the backfield, I think we have to ask ourselves how often they really use the FB to do that, vs how often they ask them to block, and I believe Tukuafu has much better lead blocking skills than Coleman. And I think the FB-pass route plays are more based on surprise vs having a fullback that can run routes well.

WR
WR1: Doug Baldwin
WR2: Jermaine Kearse/Draft/FA
WR3: Kevin Norwood
WR4: Paul Richardson
WR5: Draft/Chris Matthews
Next year I think Doug Baldwin will still be the #1 WR on our roster. I am not sure what to think of Kearse, I do think they like rewarding their own guys, but he just seems so run-of-the mill sometimes and with how tight $$ will be this season, I don't know if they can afford to put a 2-3 million dollar tender on him vs. the salary of someone drafted in the 2nd or even 1st if they chose to go that way. Or save the money and put it towards a better WR from the FA market. I think Paul Richardson does end up higher on the depth chart, but without knowing the timeline for the recovery from his injury its hard to know how he starts the season, if he does at all. Although Chris Matthews will forever be remembered for his superbowl heroics... I don't know if that translates to him being on the team next year. He seems to be well-liked and has stuck around all year to compete for his opportunities, so I am leaning towards him being on the team as a depth WR. I see the team moving on from Ricardo Lockette instead of putting a tender on him.

TE
Starting: Zach Miller
TE2: Luke Willson
TE3: Cooper Helfet
Contrary to many people, I do not see the Hawks addressing the TE position in either the draft or free agency. For those of you saying we can trade Miller's salary for that of a receiving TE, this is a team who chose to pay Miller 11 MILLION DOLLARS during a year that had a strong TE class in free agency and he would not have gotten any where near that on the open market. Obviously they value his ability to be basically another Tackle very highly. I think Willson has been progressing nicely and hopefully will overcome his drops tendency as Kearse did. I also think Cooper Helfet has been in the system long enough and shows enough promise to make the 53 next year.

O-Line
LT: Russell Okung
LG: James Carpenter (if $ is right)
C: Lemuel Jeanpierre
RG: J.R. Sweezy
RT: Justin Britt
Backup - Patrick Lewis
Backup - Alvin Bailey/LG if Carp isn't re-signed
Backup - Garry Gilliam
Backup - Draft
Backup - Nate Isles
Ultimately we aren't paying Okung THAT much as a starting quality LT. Health is the only major thing, so I could understand either way if they release him or keep him. Overall I see him staying in Seattle though. I think we move on from Max Unger as he is approaching THAT UNSPEAKABLE AGE that the seahawks front office seem to hate, and he has degraded health wise in recent years. I have seen enough promise from JeanPierre to feel comfortable in him starting, saving us 3.5+mil on Ungers contract.I am not a huge fan of Carp but I could see them paying him as well if the price was right, and no better options existed in free agency or draft. I see Sweezy getting an extension, and Britt remaining the starting RT.


WR is one of those roster spots that has a big learning curve for the young guys... Its difficult to have big success in the first year... We just dont know about the development of guys like Norwood, Mathews, cause they havent played much...If they let Kearse move on that will say they have confidance in the young guys....

TE- Again we dont know how Miller's rehab is coming along... Willson seems to be developing... if Miller is good, I dont see them doing any thing at TE...

OL-- When I look at the OL I think about the injuries this year... Wilson was sacked an extraordinary amount of time this season and the fact that he is a scrambling QB saved a bunch more sacks... To me this is an area to hit with the draft to shore up the depth and create some healthy competition...


Just my take

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The OP has only 2 draft picks (zero UFAs) on the offensive side of the ball. If that happens we are truly screwed in the long term. Because a lot of the players are starting to get paid we need to draft some impact players and sign quality UFAs. As we will all see, with the exception of Britt, last years Draft was a bust. We have 10 or 11 picks in 2015. We need to trade a few and move up to get guys that can contribute right away.
 
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