Jets expected to release Harvin

FargoHawk · Feb 11, 2015

No surprise but that means we get their 6th rounder instead of their 4th. Lame!

Sorry, I'm terrible with posting links.

EDIT - Reported on Rotoworld

therealjohncarlson · Feb 11, 2015

By draft points, I wonder what our return on investment is from Harvin

hawknation2015 · Feb 11, 2015

It is what it is . . . just further confirmation that Harvin isn't that good. He runs terrible routes and has now run himself out of three teams without endearing himself to anyone.

Our pick moves down two rounds, but it's still a high sixth rounder (Jets' pick is 5th in that round). We now have one pick in each round, plus our three or four compensatories.

HawkFan72 · Feb 11, 2015

This is what we all expected. We can make the pick in the 6th and finally move on. The return is pretty underwhelming, but getting rid of Harvin and admitting the mistake when the Hawks did is what allowed them to have the success they did last year. I don't think they get to the Super Bowl if they ride it out with Harvin.

2_0_6 · Feb 11, 2015

My list of teams I feel he might land with:

Tampa
Oakland
Santa Clara
St. Louis
New England
Green Bay (if Cobb leaves)

FargoHawk · Feb 11, 2015

Hawk_Nation":7bphitg1 said:
My list of teams I feel he might land with:

Tampa
Oakland
Santa Clara
St. Louis
New England
Green Bay (if Cobb leaves)

I'm guessing New Orleans. They were talking all year about not having Sproles and the impact that had. Harvin could fill that Bush/Sproles role.

2_0_6 · Feb 11, 2015

Unless he signs for next to nothing, I don't think they are players for him. They have the least amount of cap space of any team as of today.

http://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/

Hawkfan77 · Feb 11, 2015

I look at it like: a team gave us a 6th rounder and paid half his 2014 salary for a player that the Hawks would have cut anyway. I wish it was a 4th but Harvin needed to go and an extra draft pick is an extra draft pick.

Hyak · Feb 11, 2015

The ESPN Jets beat writer (Rich Cimini) says it's still undecided. Harvin has to be released to trigger the 6th round pick instead of the 4th rounder. If he takes a pay cut but stays on the Jets, the Hawks get the 4th round pick.

I expect the 6th round pick as well but there's also some other factors at play:

1. New coach and OC who likely want weapons around their young QB or new young QB
2. Gailey likes to spread the field, fitting Harvin pretty well.
3. They have a ton of cap room so even leaving his deal as is could be feasible.

Hard to say what the market is for Harvin right now.

Hawkfan77 · Feb 11, 2015

JTB":utjacibs said:
The ESPN Jets beat writer (Rich Cimini) says it's still undecided. Harvin has to be released to trigger the 6th round pick instead of the 4th rounder. If he takes a pay cut but stays on the Jets, the Hawks get the 4th round pick.

I expect the 6th round pick as well but there's also some other factors at play:

1. New coach and OC who likely want weapons around their young QB or new young QB
2. Gailey likes to spread the field, fitting Harvin pretty well.
3. They have a ton of cap room so even leaving his deal as is could be feasible.

Hard to say what the market is for Harvin right now.

This would be my hope. I don't think Harvin did anything wrong in NY last year and seemed to be a good teammate. Maybe the new coaching staff and FO want the player on the field and try to work on lower his cap number. Even though they have about 46 million is cap space, with Harvin's contract.

Hyak · Feb 11, 2015

Hawkfan77":3mu7mkpd said:
JTB":3mu7mkpd said:

The ESPN Jets beat writer (Rich Cimini) says it's still undecided. Harvin has to be released to trigger the 6th round pick instead of the 4th rounder. If he takes a pay cut but stays on the Jets, the Hawks get the 4th round pick.

I expect the 6th round pick as well but there's also some other factors at play:

1. New coach and OC who likely want weapons around their young QB or new young QB
2. Gailey likes to spread the field, fitting Harvin pretty well.
3. They have a ton of cap room so even leaving his deal as is could be feasible.

Hard to say what the market is for Harvin right now.

Click to expand...

This would be my hope. I don't think Harvin did anything wrong in NY last year and seemed to be a good teammate. Maybe the new coaching staff and FO want the player on the field and try to work on lower his cap number. Even though they have about 46 million is cap space, with Harvin's contract.

One other issue - they have tons of cap space but they have to spend 85-90% of it to avoid an issue with the NFLPA.

Still, if I am JS and PC, I'd plan on it being a 6. Getting a 4 is a bonus.

JSeahawks · Feb 11, 2015

We need a good return man, maybe we can get him on the cheep?

If he gets out of line we can have ndomokong step on his leg.

Hyak · Feb 11, 2015

JSeahawks":3ofx2pi7 said:
We need a good return man, maybe we can get him on the cheep?

If he gets out if line we can have ndomokong step on his leg.

:th2thumbs: Well done.

SomersetHawk · Feb 11, 2015

It's got to be mighty tempting for an egotistical organisation like the Jets to want to own the Percy Harvin redemption story while rubbing it in the faces of the rest of the NFL and the Hawks in particular. I could see him restructuring for less.

He did make Ponder look like a semi-legit QB as well.

Seahawkfan80 · Feb 11, 2015

JSeahawks":3v2uzjqi said:
We need a good return man, maybe we can get him on the cheep?

If he gets out of line we can have ndomokong step on his leg.

Oh...you mean Suh him??? :mrgreen: :stirthepot:

P.S. Thanks I needed a laugh this morning.

cacksman · Feb 11, 2015

JTB":1q15hl3m said:
Hawkfan77":1q15hl3m said:

JTB":1q15hl3m said:

The ESPN Jets beat writer (Rich Cimini) says it's still undecided. Harvin has to be released to trigger the 6th round pick instead of the 4th rounder. If he takes a pay cut but stays on the Jets, the Hawks get the 4th round pick.

I expect the 6th round pick as well but there's also some other factors at play:

1. New coach and OC who likely want weapons around their young QB or new young QB
2. Gailey likes to spread the field, fitting Harvin pretty well.
3. They have a ton of cap room so even leaving his deal as is could be feasible.

Hard to say what the market is for Harvin right now.

Click to expand...

This would be my hope. I don't think Harvin did anything wrong in NY last year and seemed to be a good teammate. Maybe the new coaching staff and FO want the player on the field and try to work on lower his cap number. Even though they have about 46 million is cap space, with Harvin's contract.

Click to expand...

One other issue - they have tons of cap space but they have to spend 85-90% of it to avoid an issue with the NFLPA.

Still, if I am JS and PC, I'd plan on it being a 6. Getting a 4 is a bonus.

This is my thinking. Are they really going to be able to spend $50-55 million of 2015 cap space? It seems like they almost need his cap number to reach the 89%.

pmedic920 · Feb 11, 2015

Fargo, nothing personal but this thread is like hitting yourself in the face with a shovel , because it feels good when you stop.

jblaze · Feb 11, 2015

Not surprising. He's proving his talent and production do not outweigh his headaches.

What a drop for Harvin. A couple years ago a front runner for MVP before he got hurt, traded for a ton and given a huge contract and now dropped by two teams and will likely get mid talent money in free agency.

Amazing drop in a fairly short amount of time.

mistaowen · Feb 11, 2015

I think he could do wonders in an offense like the Patriots or Saints run, but neither organization will throw lots of money at him. Pats never break the bank and Saints are in cap trouble if I remember correctly. Has all the talent in the world but mental issues bring him way down.

SomersetHawk · Feb 11, 2015

therealjohncarlson":ahb2bfaq said:
By draft points, I wonder what our return on investment is from Harvin

I mean, it's a ridiculous way to work things out but just for the ships and giggles we spent 822.4 draft points on Percy. Taking into account added comp picks I estimate that 6th rounder from the Jets will net us somewhere around 20 points worth of draft pick.

So our return on the investment was roughly -802.4 points. Basically we spent over 4000% more than the Jets. Haha. Lol. Ha. Fun times.

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