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Additions to this morning's links:

"Tom Pelissero of USA Today joins "The Michael Grey Show" to look at first-round draft prospects and the Seahawks' offseason priorities with Russell Wilson and Marshawn Lynch."

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More about ADB:

"Doug Baldwin apologizes for his TD celebration at the Superbowl. Do you accept his apology? Was it directed at Darrelle Revis? Also, more on how he is feeling post Superbowl."

http://mynorthwest.com/category/pod_pla ... roz%20Show

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Doug Baldwin joined "The Barbershop" and apologized for his Super Bowl TD celebration. The idea that Russell Wilson is completely dependent on Marshawn Lynch is just wrong.

http://mynorthwest.com/category/pod_pla ... and%20Salk


Marshawn Lynch is one of the most important pieces of the Seahawks offense. Michael Robinson speaks on what he thinks Marshawn will do next season. Does Marshawn even know yet? Plus, Dan Graziano of ESPN joins the Michael Grey show. What are the odds of the Seahawks going back to the Superbowl for a third straight year.

http://mynorthwest.com/category/pod_pla ... rey%20Show



John Clayton joins "Bob and Groz" to speculate where the Seahawks could turn to replace Marshawn Lynch if he decides to return. The options include the draft, a free-agent addition like DeMarco Murray, or even a trade for Tampa Bay's Doug Martin.

http://mynorthwest.com/category/pod_pla ... roz%20Show



Plus, Shannon Sharpe thinks Marshawn Lynch is the heartbeat of the Seahawks. And Russell Wilson wasn't on his list of the top 15 Quarterbacks in the league.

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ivotuk":1at3bgz6 said:
Plus, Shannon Sharpe thinks Marshawn Lynch is the heartbeat of the Seahawks. And Russell Wilson wasn't on his list of the top 15 Quarterbacks in the league.

http://mynorthwest.com/category/pod_pla ... roz%20Show

As much as I think Sharpe is a blowhard, it's an interesting topic to discuss.

Because teams have to commit so much of their gameplanning trying to figure out a way to stop or slow down Marshawn, does that make Russell more effective?..........and if so, if you took away Lynch from our offense would it make it easier for teams to contain and make Russell less effective? Therefore proving Sharpe right?

Not saying he's right, and hopefully we won't have to see if Sharpe is right for at least another 2-3 years. But it's an interesting discussion.
 

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Sgt. Largent":l5loeehc said:
ivotuk":l5loeehc said:
Plus, Shannon Sharpe thinks Marshawn Lynch is the heartbeat of the Seahawks. And Russell Wilson wasn't on his list of the top 15 Quarterbacks in the league.

http://mynorthwest.com/category/pod_pla ... roz%20Show

As much as I think Sharpe is a blowhard, it's an interesting topic to discuss.

Because teams have to commit so much of their gameplanning trying to figure out a way to stop or slow down Marshawn, does that make Russell more effective?..........and if so, if you took away Lynch from our offense would it make it easier for teams to contain and make Russell less effective? Therefore proving Sharpe right?

Not saying he's right, and hopefully we won't have to see if Sharpe is right for at least another 2-3 years. But it's an interesting discussion.

But you can also look at it the other way. Russell's ability to run affects the productivity of Lynch. Go back to 2012, Lynch's production went through the roof the last half of the year. Why? Because of the read-option and the threat of a RW run. I see the two being closely connected. We've seen numerous times where teams HAVE shut down Lynch only for Russell to take matters into his own hands and put us in position to win-- 2012 ATL, 2013,-Texans, 2012- Bears, Denver- 2014, Phi-2014 ect,ect.
 

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The stats actually support Wilson helping Lynch more than Lynch helping Wilson. We were a 23rd ranked offense without Wilson and Lynch averaged 4.2 yards per carry. Obviously they both help each other to some extent but to claim Wilson isn't a top 15 QB and only good because of Lynch is a hard argument to even take seriously. How many times has Wilson taken over a 4th quarter when the running game has been stifled and carried the team to a win?
 

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Regardless, there's no way there's 15 quarterbacks right now that are better than Wilson. I just can't respect that opinion. He's got to be in the top 10, I'm sorry
 

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Yeah even some of the non Wilson supporters on the site would put him at a minimum in the top 10. Sharpe looks a little silly on this one.
 
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jlwaters1":10l4oql1 said:
Sgt. Largent":10l4oql1 said:
ivotuk":10l4oql1 said:
Plus, Shannon Sharpe thinks Marshawn Lynch is the heartbeat of the Seahawks. And Russell Wilson wasn't on his list of the top 15 Quarterbacks in the league.

http://mynorthwest.com/category/pod_pla ... roz%20Show

As much as I think Sharpe is a blowhard, it's an interesting topic to discuss.

Because teams have to commit so much of their gameplanning trying to figure out a way to stop or slow down Marshawn, does that make Russell more effective?..........and if so, if you took away Lynch from our offense would it make it easier for teams to contain and make Russell less effective? Therefore proving Sharpe right?

Not saying he's right, and hopefully we won't have to see if Sharpe is right for at least another 2-3 years. But it's an interesting discussion.

But you can also look at it the other way. Russell's ability to run affects the productivity of Lynch. Go back to 2012, Lynch's production went through the roof the last half of the year. Why? Because of the read-option and the threat of a RW run. I see the two being closely connected. We've seen numerous times where teams HAVE shut down Lynch only for Russell to take matters into his own hands and put us in position to win-- 2012 ATL, 2013,-Texans, 2012- Bears, Denver- 2014, Phi-2014 ect,ect.

And last year's Superbowl.

Sharpe is just trying to stir discussion, I just can't believe that he's that stupid. Of course there may be some concussions that he never reported. But really, nobody outside of opposing team homers can believe that ish.
 

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austinslater25":1fj1uf29 said:
The stats actually support Wilson helping Lynch more than Lynch helping Wilson. We were a 23rd ranked offense without Wilson and Lynch averaged 4.2 yards per carry. Obviously they both help each other to some extent but to claim Wilson isn't a top 15 QB and only good because of Lynch is a hard argument to even take seriously. How many times has Wilson taken over a 4th quarter when the running game has been stifled and carried the team to a win?


"How many times has Wilson taken over a 4th quarter when the running game has been stifled and carried the team to a win?"

This is what makes me wonder wtf happened in the 4th qtr of the SB...Why did he not take the game over UP BY 10? extend plays etc....In the Super Bowl...!!! :x
 

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It's a really tough one. Without Marshawn, or a fantastic running game, I think our passing offense sputters mightily. Replace Kearse with say Julio Jones, how much does that change what everybody thinks of Wilson? I just don't see an elite ability to read a defense and dissect it. However, if all a defense has to do is come out in man coverage to disrupt your passing game, the problems go a lot deeper than Russell Wilson's ability to find holes in complex zones. I think he's one of the top-10 QB's, but I think he has a ways to go before he is one of the top-10 passers.
 

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hawksmode":3hh0gr5d said:
austinslater25":3hh0gr5d said:
The stats actually support Wilson helping Lynch more than Lynch helping Wilson. We were a 23rd ranked offense without Wilson and Lynch averaged 4.2 yards per carry. Obviously they both help each other to some extent but to claim Wilson isn't a top 15 QB and only good because of Lynch is a hard argument to even take seriously. How many times has Wilson taken over a 4th quarter when the running game has been stifled and carried the team to a win?


"How many times has Wilson taken over a 4th quarter when the running game has been stifled and carried the team to a win?"

This is not the first time we've heard someone say "what if teams didn't have to gameplan for Lynch, and could commit 80% of their preparation to just containing and stopping Wilson cause we have a mediocre running back and WR's?"

It's a chicken and egg question for sure, who benefits who the most.

I have no doubt Russell would still be productive and make his plays, but it's a fair question.
 

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Tical21":dhhxhz66 said:
It's a really tough one. Without Marshawn, or a fantastic running game, I think our passing offense sputters mightily. Replace Kearse with say Julio Jones, how much does that change what everybody thinks of Wilson? I just don't see an elite ability to read a defense and dissect it. However, if all a defense has to do is come out in man coverage to disrupt your passing game, the problems go a lot deeper than Russell Wilson's ability to find holes in complex zones. I think he's one of the top-10 QB's, but I think he has a ways to go before he is one of the top-10 passers.

I think its unfair to judge him as a passer when he hasn't had much to work with. Rotoviz just did a nice article showing Wilson is a much better passer than people realize. How many guys catch the third down throw that Wilson placed perfectly to Kearse? How did Brady look when Gronk was out? There were people saying NE should move on from him after this year. Wilson has a career passer rating hovering around 100 and he has never had a true legit #1. I'm of the opinion he is a top 5 passer right now, he just needs some weapons. Lynch is his best receiver. How many other top 5 passers have their running back as their best receiving option or only viable mismatch on offense? Not many.
 
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Today: Ourlads is a pretty good source of draft info and Clayton talks about the other Mike Williams


Need To Know: Colin Cowherd and John Schneider share their take on the NFL scouting combine, Dan Wetzel on the NFL's off-field issues, Lloyd McClendon is the guy with the most on his shoulders this season. Does the scouting combine give teams a false representation of the prospects they're scouting? John Schneider told "Brock & Salk" last week that the Seahawks have been fooled by speed and athleticism in the pas

http://mynorthwest.com/category/pod_pla ... and%20Salk


Dan Wetzel joins the Brock and Salk show. Do the problems players have off the field play a part in the draft? Does a player's character matter to the NFL? Plus, Brock wants to know where the buff dudes are at. Today's "Answer the question, jerk" How do you convince your dream girl to stop running away?

http://mynorthwest.com/category/pod_pla ... and%20Salk


Dan Shonka of Ourlads.com joins "Bob and Groz" to break down this week's NFL Combine and the ensuing NFL Draft.

http://mynorthwest.com/category/pod_pla ... roz%20Show


John Clayton breaks down the saga of Buffalo wide receiver Mike Williams and if the Seahawks may have interest in taking him on as a reclamation project. The NFL Combine is coming up and Danny tells us what the Seahawks will be looking for. In "Sweeping the Dial" the guys talk Andy Pettite number retiring blowback, can former Packer Brandon Bostick land another job, and an Australian TV host puts a guy texting his girlfriend on blast.

http://mynorthwest.com/category/pod_pla ... nd%20Moore
 
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