Think teams will still stack the box against us?

Now that we have a major receiving threat on the field, are teams still going to try beating us through 8 man defensive fronts?

He's not a deep threat.

I think we pick up a burner in the draft. And I think they won't be able to stack it like we have seen in the past.

Yes, unless we have WR who poses a threat -- not necessarily an elite threat but a threat none the less.

A healthy PRich would have been perfect.

SalishHawkFan":1jn674jy said:

He's not a deep threat.

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We can find a deep threat,besides it doesn't matter if JG isn't a deep threat.You stack the box and blitz all he has to do is catch at 5 yrds move 5 more like he does and the box no longer works.Shorter passes kill the box if done right.Having JG is a great weapon to counter lots of D looks..

Northhawk":34u6376m said:

Yes, unless we have WR who poses a threat -- not necessarily an elite threat but a threat none the less.

A healthy PRich would have been perfect.

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Healthy P Rich will make our offense unstoppable. Wilson, Lynch, Graham cannot be guarded as is. PRich is gonna have a great year.

BlueBlood":2caje61b said:

Northhawk":2caje61b said:

Yes, unless we have WR who poses a threat -- not necessarily an elite threat but a threat none the less.

A healthy PRich would have been perfect.

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Healthy P Rich will make our offense unstoppable. Wilson, Lynch, Graham cannot be guarded as is. PRich is gonna have a great year.

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I wouldn't expect too much from BackPack this year, especially early on. He has a history of knee injuries and recovering from an ACL, while it hasn't been as bad recently, could really effecting someone like Richardson who relies on speed and being quick.

IndyHawk":16a96z3y said:

SalishHawkFan":16a96z3y said:

He's not a deep threat.

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We can find a deep threat,besides it doesn't matter if JG isn't a deep threat.You stack the box and blitz all he has to do is catch at 5 yrds move 5 more like he does and the box no longer works.Shorter passes kill the box if done right.Having JG is a great weapon to counter lots of D looks..

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You had to sneak in "and blitz" for your argument to work. Stacking the box also clogs up the short middle of the field, which is like, where a lot of those five yard passes to the TE that you're talking about are typically run.

What opens up though for TEs against a stacked box is the deep seam, which I think Graham is definitely effective at (i.e. -- how Vernon Davis made his living during the Alex Smith days of the 9ers offense).

They will until we demonstrate the use of the passing game.

Don't get me wrong, it will help some. We'll still see plenty of 8 man fronts, but probably less blitzes. That, in turn, will give Russell some scramble room and then having a guy like Graham will just make Baldwin even deadlier.

That's where I hope Graham is helpful, at beating the blitzes and at distracting the secondary away from our other WR's.

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IndyHawk":rm4o1e94 said:

SalishHawkFan":rm4o1e94 said:

He's not a deep threat.

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We can find a deep threat,besides it doesn't matter if JG isn't a deep threat.You stack the box and blitz all he has to do is catch at 5 yrds move 5 more like he does and the box no longer works.Shorter passes kill the box if done right.Having JG is a great weapon to counter lots of D looks..

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You had to sneak in "and blitz" for your argument to work. Stacking the box also clogs up the short middle of the field, which is like, where a lot of those five yard passes to the TE that you're talking about are typically run.

What opens up though for TEs against a stacked box is the deep seam, which I think Graham is definitely effective at (i.e. -- how Vernon Davis made his living during the Alex Smith days of the 9ers offense).

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Granted I did,but I was thinking of the 15-20yrd seams for the TE as you said VD lived off ,Gates,Gronk and JG.

SalishHawkFan":3ay9qj1t said:

He's not a deep threat.

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How do you figure?

Largent80":1mn5q6eh said:

I think we pick up a burner in the draft. And I think they won't be able to stack it like we have seen in the past.

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This and the return of PRich will make it less likely to see the usual amount of congestion on the line. Graham just added a new dimension to the offense that must be accounted for.

EastCoastHawksFan":1erq8kk6 said:

SalishHawkFan":1erq8kk6 said:

He's not a deep threat.

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How do you figure?

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Why do people think that a deep threat has to be a WR that runs 4.4?? Unbelievable.

SalishHawkFan":30y8avgu said:

He's not a deep threat.

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He's not? Dude makes his hay down the seam...

cacksman":3r4652iw said:

EastCoastHawksFan":3r4652iw said:

SalishHawkFan":3r4652iw said:

He's not a deep threat.

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How do you figure?

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Why do people think that a deep threat has to be a WR that runs 4.4?? Unbelievable.

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Because it is true.

Largent80":1cn98oc3 said:

cacksman":1cn98oc3 said:

EastCoastHawksFan":1cn98oc3 said:

SalishHawkFan":1cn98oc3 said:

He's not a deep threat.

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How do you figure?

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Why do people think that a deep threat has to be a WR that runs 4.4?? Unbelievable.

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Because it is true.

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No, it isn't.

Dude is a threat period, deep, short, covered, open, he's going to revolutionize our team. I am so pumped and jacked!

Edited to comment on the original post. I think teams will stack the box until we prove that they can't anymore. Think of the implications for our other receivers, as well as our running game with Lynch and Wilson, my God, this isn't even going to be fair.

With Graham, you can probably force opposing defenses into a little more nickel. So, we should see more skinny CBs and light coverage LBs on the field than before. Seattle loves going 3WR because it spreads out the defense and gives Marshawn more room to run. When we're in a two-back set, opposing defenses usually load up the box. With Graham, in theory, you keep the defense more honest even when you're running a base 2WR offense. You either have to put a CB on him or bracket him with an LB and safety. If Seattle runs play-action out of the I-formation, does a defense trust a run-stuffing LB to stop Graham from leaking out? If they drop a safety on him, that will give our WRs one-on-ones down the field. If we can add a true deep threat, then it's really pick your poison time.

Yes. They'll say prove it, until we burn them enough times with alley oop passes.