Parallels between the 2006 Seahawks/2015 Seahawks

Hasselbeck · Sep 16, 2015

Why the 2006 Seahawks you ask? Because they were the team that was fresh off a Super Bowl loss.

2006 Seahawks vs 2015 Seahawks
- 06' Seahawks locked up key players to long term deals (Hasselbeck, Alexander, Jones)
- 15' Seahawks locked up key players to long term deals (Wilson, Wagner, and Lynch but not sure if you want to call that a long-term deal)

- 06' Seahawks botched the offseason move with Steve Hutchinson
- 15' Seahawks holdout with Kam Chancellor, depending on how you fall on this .. one could say the FO botched it.

- 06' Seahawks traded a 1st round pick for offensive skill player Deion Branch
- 15' Seahawks traded a 1st round pick for offensive skill player Jimmy Graham

- 06' Seahawks had S Ken Hamlin returning from injury
- 15' Seahawks have S Earl Thomas returning from injury

Just some interesting parallels early on.

jammerhawk · Sep 16, 2015

There are similarities but the holdover players were all older in '06. This team '15 is still very young.

I don't accept the FO botched deal with Chancellor. Chancellor is one of the top paid SS in the league they made a deal with him paying him up front and then back loading the deal to allow for cap flexibility. Chancellor's holdout has come out of the blue as it seems to be a renegotiation after 1 year as he apparently wants his guarantees changed. The contract he signed gave him a big bonus then back loaded his deal and he agreed to it b/c he was to be amongst the top paid SS in the NFL. that he now sees others getting bigger guaranteed payments and refuses to report until his del is changed after just one year is not a botch by the team but apparently simply an envious response by Kam, or placing himself before his team.

The '06 team was stronger on O than the '15 team and had zero depth at most all defensive positions unlike this squad.

Hasselbeck · Sep 16, 2015

jammerhawk":1j9iqvwx said:
There are similarities but the holdover players were all older in '06. This team '15 is still very young.

I don't accept the FO botched deal with Chancellor. Chancellor is one of the top paid SS in the league they made a deal with him paying him up front and then back loading the deal to allow for cap flexibility. Chancellor's holdout has come out of the blue as it seems to be a renegotiation after 1 year as he apparently wants his guarantees changed. The contract he signed gave him a big bonus then back loaded his deal and he agreed to it b/c he was to be amongst the top paid SS in the NFL. that he now sees others getting bigger guaranteed payments and refuses to report until his del is changed after just one year is not a botch by the team but apparently simply an envious response by Kam, or placing himself before his team.

The '06 team was stronger on O than the '15 team and had zero depth at most all defensive positions unlike this squad.

Agreed on all of these points.

That 06' team also started 3-0.

kearly · Sep 16, 2015

Circumstantial comparisons are about as meaningful as a horoscope- the 2015 Seahawks are almost a perfect opposite of the 2006 team on the field. Though I get why Hasselbeck made this thread. It's more of a trivia thing than an analysis thing. Like Schefter's tweet on the number 31.

As far as comparisons go. The 2006 team was very finesse, and could not run the ball. If I compared them to another team, I'd compare them to the 2014 Cardinals. Horrible run game, injuries at QB, aging team, negative DVOA, got crushed when they played good teams, but lucky as hell at the end of games and stole about 4 wins more than they deserved.

jammerhawk · Sep 16, 2015

Totally agree, opposing teams need to tighten their chinstraps playing Seattle now.

If they don't they will get smashed in the mouth by Pete's teams. Holmgren's teams preferred to work from excellent timing and wilted when they got smashed in the mouth.

olyfan63 · Sep 17, 2015

Please, not the "finesse" thing applied to the SBXL-era Seahawks, at least not until after Hutch was gone and Big Walt was a shell of his best.
The SBXL-season Seahawks were way more smash-mouth and way less "finesse". The fact they could do *either* when needed was what made that offense so unstoppable. The offense was pretty much unstoppable for the two seasons before SBXL; it was just that the undersized "finesse" defense usually sucked so badly that the offense had to try to overcompensate, resulting in picks, sacks/fumbles, etc. We finally got an *average* defense, and the team went to SBXL.

TheRealDTM · Sep 18, 2015

we had a better oline and QB in 06

Throwdown · Sep 18, 2015

TheRealDTM":1kq2rlmh said:
we had a better oline and QB in 06

Hasselbeck couldn't come close to Russell on his best day times 10. I don't know what would possess someone to say such a ridiculous thing.

olyfan63 · Sep 18, 2015

Anti-parallels:

06 GM: Tim Ruskell
06 Core players bolted in nasty row (Steve Hutchinson)
06 Team depth: All the durability and staying power of wet tissue paper
06 GM overpaid washed-up aging stars: Shaun Alexander
06 Only used-up has-been free agents consider Seattle, and only if ridiculously overpaid

15 GM: John Schneider
15 Many core players already locked up to multi-year deals (Bennett, Avril, Sherman, Thomas, Kam, etc.)
15 Team depth: Next man up! Who's the next Richard Sherman?
15 GM, Coach routinely bid farewell to washed-up aging ex-stars, don't overpay
15 Many top free agents consider Seattle, and Seattle rarely overpays
15 Used-up has-been free agents visit Seattle, get outcompeted, and get rapidly shown the door. (ex: T.O.) Some good ones do get signed (ex: Tony Moeaki)

seahawksny · Sep 18, 2015

TheRealDTM":3l3f4xmi said:
we had a better oline and QB in 06

O line was better which gave qb more time, but RW I think is better than Hass

SoulfishHawk · Sep 18, 2015

Can you imagine Lynch behind that line? He'd get bored and have to find some contact :lol:

c_hawkbob · Sep 18, 2015

Paralells?

The X axis.

Hawks46 · Sep 18, 2015

olyfan63":ksvem8is said:
Anti-parallels:

06 GM: Tim Ruskell
06 Core players bolted in nasty row (Steve Hutchinson)
06 Team depth: All the durability and staying power of wet tissue paper
06 GM overpaid washed-up aging stars: Shaun Alexander
06 Only used-up has-been free agents consider Seattle, and only if ridiculously overpaid

15 GM: John Schneider
15 Many core players already locked up to multi-year deals (Bennett, Avril, Sherman, Thomas, Kam, etc.)
15 Team depth: Next man up! Who's the next Richard Sherman?
15 GM, Coach routinely bid farewell to washed-up aging ex-stars, don't overpay
15 Many top free agents consider Seattle, and Seattle rarely overpays
15 Used-up has-been free agents visit Seattle, get outcompeted, and get rapidly shown the door. (ex: T.O.) Some good ones do get signed (ex: Tony Moeaki)

Got to love revisionist history.

Alexander was coming off of an MVP year and had set NFL records for TD's in a year. That's hardly washed up.

Yes, that contract didn't work out for us, but we HAD to pay him after that season and his career to that point. If we didn't, someone would've, and no one could prognosticate a player getting injured that had never had injury issues before.

scutterhawk · Sep 18, 2015

TheRealDTM":2kphzn3r said:
we had a better oline and QB in 06

Better O-Line yes, better Quarterback, NO.
Being realistic, Matt Hasselbeck had one of the best ever O-Lines protecting him, and Russell Wilson has had extremely sub-par protection from the Get-Go ,and it doesn't look like it's getting any better so far this Season.
Matt Hasselbeck Would have been injured multiple times if he had to rely on this Offense to cover his ass.
the differences between Mike Holmgren's preferred style of Quarterback play (West Coast Offense), and Pete Carroll's run first w/scrambling style Quarterback is the reason Pete didn't keep Hasselbeck on the roster, and it should obvious to most ,that the Seahawks have not only gone to the SB for two Years in a row, but won their first and narrowly lost the second ,while utilizing Pete's preferred style of QB play.
Game one was an OT loss, and NOT on Russell Wilson.
We're 15 games yet to play before we can be doing any real comparison of the 2006 & 2015 teams

SoulfishHawk · Sep 18, 2015

I loved Hass, but no way is he a better QB than Wilson.

seahawkfreak · Sep 18, 2015

SoulfishHawk":1lug587d said:
I loved Hass, but no way is he a better QB than Wilson.

I think you could make arguments for either one. For instance, Wilson's read progression is not on Hass's level.

olyfan63 · Sep 19, 2015

Hawks46":4oxoj3rq said:
olyfan63":4oxoj3rq said:

Anti-parallels:

06 GM: Tim Ruskell
06 GM overpaid washed-up aging stars: Shaun Alexander

15 GM: John Schneider
15 Used-up has-been free agents visit Seattle, get outcompeted, and get rapidly shown the door. (ex: T.O.) Some good ones do get signed (ex: Tony Moeaki)

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Got to love revisionist history.

Alexander was coming off of an MVP year and had set NFL records for TD's in a year. That's hardly washed up.

Yes, that contract didn't work out for us, but we HAD to pay him after that season and his career to that point. If we didn't, someone would've, and no one could prognosticate a player getting injured that had never had injury issues before.

No, not "revisionist", history, RETROACTIVE CRYSTAL BALL history!
Sheesh, at least get your history insult labels right! Besides, revisionist history is often more accurate than "official court historian" history/propaganda, but that's off topic here.

Yeah, paying Shaun seemed like the thing to do at the time. Who knew the wheels would fall off?

It's now listed as the #12 worst NFL contract on the site below.
"Now, whether it was that the Seahawks let their highly effectively left guard Steve Hutchinson go to the Vikings or a case of the Madden curse, Alexander's production fell off dramatically to the point that he never eclipsed the 1,000-yard mark again. In the first year of his new contract, injuries played a role and Alexander was sidelined with a broken foot in Week 3. "
http://www.complex.com/sports/2013/09/w ... -alexander

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