All Time - Career Passer Rating

Laloosh · Nov 23, 2015

Career Passer Rating (1,500 attempts minimum)

01. Aaron Rodgers (105.6)
02. Russell Wilson (100.2) - updated 12/07/15
03. Tony Romo (97.5)
04. Steve Young (96.8 )
05. Tom Brady (96.6)
06. Peyton Manning (96.5)
07. Philip Rivers (95.9)
08. Drew Brees (95.7)
09. Ben Roethlisberger (94.0)
10. Kurt Warner (93.7)

Not bad, Mr. Wilson.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/l ... career.htm

Hawkstorian · Nov 23, 2015

But he's not a franchise QB.

Recon_Hawk · Nov 23, 2015

He's not #1?

Blame Bevell.

jdemps · Nov 23, 2015

Recon_Hawk":1tf8m5g0 said:
He's not #1?

Fire Bevell.

FTFY.

:stirthepot:

QuahHawk · Nov 23, 2015

I have to say I am surprised. He showed how good he can be when his team is running the ball well.

Anthony! · Nov 23, 2015

Wenhawk":kwbd6pkm said:
I have to say I am surprised. He showed how good he can be when his team is running the ball well.

Every QB needs help, Rodgers was playimg bad for a few games, because of his oline and no run game. His oline plays better and he gets a run game and he plays better. A year or so ago Brady was struggling for a few games, Gronk comes back and he -plays better. This year our oline has been ranked 32nd in pass blocking. Prior to this the worse was 24th and we went to an SB and he had a good year. He does not need a top oline just one in the top 75%

West TX Hawk · Nov 23, 2015

For some perspective,

here's some folks on the extended list you may not expect:

13 Chad Pennington
14 Matt Schaub
15 (tied) Daunte Culpepper
18 Jeff Garcia
22 Trent Green
24 David Garrard
25 Jay Cutler
26 Donovan McNabb
29 Joe Flacco
33 Mark Brunell
43 Matt Hasselbeck
51 Dave Krieg
65 (tied) Matt Cassell
86 John Kitna

Taking nothing away from Wilson but QB rating isn't everything:
HOF:
19 Otto Graham
36 Roger Staubach
41 Len Dawson
50 Troy Aikman
56 Warren Moon
57 Bart Starr
59 Fran Tarkenton
64 Dan Fouts
65 John Elway
78 Johnny Unitas
89 Bob Griese
138 Terry Bradshaw
163 Joe Namath

MrThortan · Nov 23, 2015

:sarcasm_on: What, he doesn't have a perfect passer rating? Draft his replacement :sarcasm_off:

Anthony! · Nov 23, 2015

West TX Hawk":1m1nmui6 said:
For some perspective,

here's some folks on the extended list you may not expect:

13 Chad Pennington
14 Matt Schaub
15 (tied) Daunte Culpepper
18 Jeff Garcia
22 Trent Green
24 David Garrard
25 Jay Cutler
26 Donovan McNabb
29 Joe Flacco
33 Mark Brunell
43 Matt Hasselbeck
51 Dave Krieg
65 (tied) Matt Cassell
86 John Kitna

Taking nothing away from Wilson but QB rating isn't everything:
HOF:
19 Otto Graham
36 Roger Staubach
41 Len Dawson
50 Troy Aikman
56 Warren Moon
57 Bart Starr
59 Fran Tarkenton
64 Dan Fouts
65 John Elway
78 Johnny Unitas
89 Bob Griese
138 Terry Bradshaw
163 Joe Namath

"
Taking nothing away from Wilson but QB rating isn't everything:" and yet you just tried to pathetic

West TX Hawk · Nov 23, 2015

Anthony!":1kc9ziy8 said:
West TX Hawk":1kc9ziy8 said:

For some perspective,

here's some folks on the extended list you may not expect:

13 Chad Pennington
14 Matt Schaub
15 (tied) Daunte Culpepper
18 Jeff Garcia
22 Trent Green
24 David Garrard
25 Jay Cutler
26 Donovan McNabb
29 Joe Flacco
33 Mark Brunell
43 Matt Hasselbeck
51 Dave Krieg
65 (tied) Matt Cassell
86 John Kitna

Taking nothing away from Wilson but QB rating isn't everything:
HOF:
19 Otto Graham
36 Roger Staubach
41 Len Dawson
50 Troy Aikman
56 Warren Moon
57 Bart Starr
59 Fran Tarkenton
64 Dan Fouts
65 John Elway
78 Johnny Unitas
89 Bob Griese
138 Terry Bradshaw
163 Joe Namath

Click to expand...

"
Taking nothing away from Wilson but QB rating isn't everything:" and yet you just tried to pathetic

My point is that the qb rating is not necessarily the best tool to measure how effective a qb is. Wilson's many 4th qtr comebacks mean a lot more than his qb rating IMO. You find this "pathetic"?

evergreen · Nov 23, 2015

Mentioning all those hall of famers way below Wilson, looks like he's only up there because of a small sample size, or Passer rating is overrated. Many of those lower ranked HOFs had pretty decent defenses too, some no Super Bowls. What reason could there be not to include him with the elite. I agree he hasn't been very elite this year, but he looked like himself yesterday... Now to do it against a winner, and another Super Bowl winning, if not future HOF QB...

Laloosh · Nov 23, 2015

West TX Hawk":slrjwsll said:
For some perspective,

here's some folks on the extended list you may not expect:

13 Chad Pennington
14 Matt Schaub
15 (tied) Daunte Culpepper
18 Jeff Garcia
22 Trent Green
24 David Garrard
25 Jay Cutler
26 Donovan McNabb
29 Joe Flacco
33 Mark Brunell
43 Matt Hasselbeck
51 Dave Krieg
65 (tied) Matt Cassell
86 John Kitna

Taking nothing away from Wilson but QB rating isn't everything:
HOF:
19 Otto Graham
36 Roger Staubach
41 Len Dawson
50 Troy Aikman
56 Warren Moon
57 Bart Starr
59 Fran Tarkenton
64 Dan Fouts
65 John Elway
78 Johnny Unitas
89 Bob Griese
138 Terry Bradshaw
163 Joe Namath

This is what I don't understand about the way that some of you post...

The quarterback for the Seattle Seahawks is 2nd on the all time leader list for passer rating and your response is "yeah but"?

Where in the OP does it say that passer rating is everything?

Are you concerned that people will mistakenly give Wilson some credit or take pleasure in knowing this? I really don't get the increasingly common reflex of minimizing or dismissing every little accomplishment or positive related to the team.

By the way, you can do the same with the passing yardage and TD list. You'd have made a better argument if you pointed out that he just became eligible for the list and being 2nd doesn't mean that he'll finish 2nd.

Scottemojo · Nov 23, 2015

Aaron Rodgers might be in the conversation for best ever.

Wilson is not the 2nd best ever.

And Romo is not the 3rd best ever.

Ratings systems are era skewed. Don't like em, won't trust em. (read that last sentence in your best Mike Singletary voice)

Anthony! · Nov 23, 2015

West TX Hawk":1ojgkdnm said:
Anthony!":1ojgkdnm said:

West TX Hawk":1ojgkdnm said:

For some perspective,

here's some folks on the extended list you may not expect:

13 Chad Pennington
14 Matt Schaub
15 (tied) Daunte Culpepper
18 Jeff Garcia
22 Trent Green
24 David Garrard
25 Jay Cutler
26 Donovan McNabb
29 Joe Flacco
33 Mark Brunell
43 Matt Hasselbeck
51 Dave Krieg
65 (tied) Matt Cassell
86 John Kitna

Taking nothing away from Wilson but QB rating isn't everything:
HOF:
19 Otto Graham
36 Roger Staubach
41 Len Dawson
50 Troy Aikman
56 Warren Moon
57 Bart Starr
59 Fran Tarkenton
64 Dan Fouts
65 John Elway
78 Johnny Unitas
89 Bob Griese
138 Terry Bradshaw
163 Joe Namath

Click to expand...

"
Taking nothing away from Wilson but QB rating isn't everything:" and yet you just tried to pathetic

Click to expand...

My point is that the qb rating is not necessarily the best tool to measure how effective a qb is. Wilson's many 4th qtr comebacks mean a lot more than his qb rating IMO. You find this "pathetic"?

I find the fact that our QB is amongst the top 2 in a good QB category and you want to make light of it. As to the rest perhaps you should have been specific.

Laloosh · Nov 23, 2015

Scottemojo":1z6afp0x said:
Aaron Rodgers might be in the conversation for best ever.

Wilson is not the 2nd best ever.

And Romo is not the 3rd best ever.

Ratings systems are era skewed. Don't like em, won't trust em. (read that last sentence in your best Mike Singletary voice)

Nobody made the claim that you're suggesting Scotte. It's a stat.

Anthony! · Nov 23, 2015

Scottemojo":14dnnsva said:
Aaron Rodgers might be in the conversation for best ever.

Wilson is not the 2nd best ever.

And Romo is not the 3rd best ever.

Ratings systems are era skewed. Don't like em, won't trust em. (read that last sentence in your best Mike Singletary voice)

aww so you do not like then he should get no credit for being top 2. Got it. LOL

Scottemojo · Nov 23, 2015

Laloosh":2gerkl3y said:
Scottemojo":2gerkl3y said:

Aaron Rodgers might be in the conversation for best ever.

Wilson is not the 2nd best ever.

And Romo is not the 3rd best ever.

Ratings systems are era skewed. Don't like em, won't trust em. (read that last sentence in your best Mike Singletary voice)

Click to expand...

Nobody made the claim that you're suggesting Scotte. It's a stat.

Oh, I know that.

It is an efficiency stat that favors completion percentage. Thus the presence of Steve Young on an other wise era skewed stat, he was a silly outlier for his era in completion percentage.

Laloosh · Nov 23, 2015

Scottemojo":2w4nu8d7 said:
Laloosh":2w4nu8d7 said:

Scottemojo":2w4nu8d7 said:

Aaron Rodgers might be in the conversation for best ever.

Wilson is not the 2nd best ever.

And Romo is not the 3rd best ever.

Ratings systems are era skewed. Don't like em, won't trust em. (read that last sentence in your best Mike Singletary voice)

Click to expand...

Nobody made the claim that you're suggesting Scotte. It's a stat.

Click to expand...

Oh, I know that.

It is an efficiency stat that favors completion percentage. Thus the presence of Steve Young on an other wise era skewed stat, he was a silly outlier for his era in completion percentage.

Yeah, not just completion percentage but TD percentage, INT percentage and Y/A. I realize that you know this but others may not.

NFL Quarterback Rating Formula
(National Football League)

a = (((Comp/Att) * 100) -30) / 20
b = ((TDs/Att) * 100) / 5
c = (9.5 - ((Int/Att) * 100)) / 4
d = ((Yards/Att) - 3) / 4

a, b, c and d can not be greater than 2.375 or less than zero.

QB Rating = (a + b + c + d) / .06

Comp Percentage
All Time: 9th
Active: 6th

TD Percentage
All Time: 22nd
Active: 4th

Int Percentage
All Time: 3rd
Active: 3rd

Yards / Attempt
All Time: 5th
Active: 2nd

Adjusted Yards / Attempt
All Time: 2nd
Active: 2nd

So yes, passer rating is a decent way of saying that he's been good at all of those things over the course of his career.

That's not to say that he's an all time great. It's a dot on a line over the course of what I hope to be a long line.

West TX Hawk · Nov 23, 2015

Laloosh":182zquxm said:
West TX Hawk":182zquxm said:

For some perspective,

here's some folks on the extended list you may not expect:

13 Chad Pennington
14 Matt Schaub
15 (tied) Daunte Culpepper
18 Jeff Garcia
22 Trent Green
24 David Garrard
25 Jay Cutler
26 Donovan McNabb
29 Joe Flacco
33 Mark Brunell
43 Matt Hasselbeck
51 Dave Krieg
65 (tied) Matt Cassell
86 John Kitna

Taking nothing away from Wilson but QB rating isn't everything:
HOF:
19 Otto Graham
36 Roger Staubach
41 Len Dawson
50 Troy Aikman
56 Warren Moon
57 Bart Starr
59 Fran Tarkenton
64 Dan Fouts
65 John Elway
78 Johnny Unitas
89 Bob Griese
138 Terry Bradshaw
163 Joe Namath

Click to expand...

This is what I don't understand about the way that some of you post...

The quarterback for the Seattle Seahawks is 2nd on the all time leader list for passer rating and your response is "yeah but"?

Where in the OP does it say that passer rating is everything?

Are you concerned that people will mistakenly give Wilson some credit or take pleasure in knowing this? I really don't get the increasingly common reflex of minimizing or dismissing every little accomplishment or positive related to the team.

By the way, you can do the same with the passing yardage and TD list. You'd have made a better argument if you pointed out that he just became eligible for the list and being 2nd doesn't mean that he'll finish 2nd.

I think you're reading way too much into my post and becoming too defensive over something that's not that big of a deal. The fact that Wilson is currently ranked 2nd all time in this stat is very commendable but obviously this stat doesn't tell the whole story for any QB. As I pointed out, I am taking nothing away from what Wilson has accomplished in his career.

QB ratings can be deceptive and if you introduced someone to football who knew nothing about the game and you show them these rankings they would become quite confused when you try to point out that no, Matt Schaub and David Garrard were not actually more effective than Elway or Staubach. The rating favors many QBs who perform in high percentage passing systems. And comparing eras becomes useless with this stat.

Laloosh · Nov 23, 2015

West TX Hawk":3cggy8i7 said:
I think you're reading way too much into my post and becoming too defensive over something that's not that big of a deal. The fact that Wilson is currently ranked 2nd all time in this stat is very commendable but obviously this stat doesn't tell the whole story for any QB. As I pointed out, I am taking nothing away from what Wilson has accomplished in his career.

QB ratings can be deceptive and if you introduced someone to football who knew nothing about the game and you show them these rankings they would become quite confused when you try to point out that no, Matt Schaub and David Garrard were not actually more effective than Elway or Staubach. The rating favors many QBs who perform in high percentage passing systems. And comparing eras becomes useless with this stat.

Yeah, I might be too defensive about it. I don't think so but it's possible. I'm a little irritated because if you look at some of those same quarterbacks that you mention (Schaub for example) and look at how they rank in some of the other categories provided above, they're not even close.

My OP was a nod to Wilson's accomplishment. Your response was an attempt to discredit the accomplishment (no matter the importance or accuracy of the stat) from my point of view.

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