RiverDog":3jlhdpp8 said:
ApnaHawk":3jlhdpp8 said:
Sometimes when I read these boards, I get the feeling I'm a Detroit Lions fan. Yes the offensive line has been bad this year, but when was it ever good/great? 2004-2005??
To my point, I had to look up some statistics and do some basic quick work. Cause if memory serves me right, our lines have always struggled, especially at the start of the season....
For the rankings I used PFF.
**These are season-end Rankings**
2012 - 20
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2 ... e-lines/2/
2013 - 27
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2 ... -rankings/
2014 - 19
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2 ... ankings/2/
Our average ranking over the last 3 years is 22. (20+27+19)/3.
We have never had a great line in these past few years.
I've never understood how they can make an objective appraisal of offensive line performance. Watch New England and see what Brady does when he's faced with a jail break....he unloads the ball immediately, doesn't even try that reverse spin move Russell and some of the other QB's will do. Russell will almost always look for a way out and many times gets caught in doing so. Our line has to hold their blocks much longer than other lines, plus they can't anticipate where Russell is going to be as other lines can with their quarterbacks, which subjects them to more holding calls.
But run blocking might be over rated with a quarterback like Russell under center, who is a threat to run anytime he has his hands on the ball. Not so with guys like Rivers and Peyton. It's easier to block for a read option quarterback as you simply take your man in which ever direction he wants to go and don't even have to block the DE.
We all know that our offensive line has been a weak spot, but I just can't see how anyone can quantify it with a ranking.
Good points River dog on both passing and running.
I think if you put a QB like Brady behind these guys you would see a much improved line especially if they started out the season against the Pat's schedule where they had time to learn before hitting a gauntlet of dominant front 7's.
That is not a knock on Wilson. He has his own style and is still learning to manipulate a pocket and trust his O-line. Starting off the season against multiple top front 7's in the league has dramatically stumped the growth of the O-line and has also contributed to Wilson fleeing the pocket instead of shifting in it, when there are times shifting makes much more sense. The line has had to contend with not just dominant front 7's but also extended blocking for a guys that his movement is anything but steady. Most QB's are pretty stationary and the line knows where they are trying to keep defenders away from. If a defender changes direction it usually doesn't mean he is making a b-line for the QB who has fled the pocket. A subtle move is often enough to keep yourself between the defender and the pocket but when that defender is no longer going for the pocket but rather hard shifting direction to chase the QB, that subtle move will not work. Imagine how hard it is to teach someone a new position while trying to teach them the subtleties of that position while constantly throwing in situations where that subtle movement won't get it done.
I think Wilson is going to become a great QB but right now he is not there and the way he is playing is one of the big reasons this offensive line is so offensive.
