Looking at what we did

chris98251 · Apr 30, 2016

We reloaded, not rebuilding, we have guys that have been Red Shirted in one way or another and are now going to have to show they deserve to be here, we drafted and picked up players that are by looks expected to contribute at least or push guys off the roster.

We have put players on notice, bring the nasty and attitude back, this is the counterpunch to the Rams, especially on our O line, we have guys that can play angry and aggressive, we have a bunch of backs that are now physical, we brought in a blocking TE. This is also going to make a difference against a team like the Panthers, they played our game and won last season, we were not able to correct things till to late.

I also think we are seeing the passing of the torch, we are developing a offense around Wilson's strengths, looking at what we brought in we have backs that can cut and power run, backs that can receive the ball and run from the backfield, Rawls can catch but isn't fluid doing it. Bring in C.J. Prosise, can run, can catch, can line up wide, maybe we will see more screens, or more traditional screens that have been there. Same for Brooks, run and catch but is speed on the edge, Collins a power back that can punish and eat clock along with Rawls.

Throw in our WR's and TE's with Russell rolling out and there is no reason Bevell can't make this a scoring offense as well as a ball control offense.

We brought in Lineman that are Experienced and have a strong base, have pass protected as well as good at the point of contact for the run and are Nasty.

Our D line gets some big guys that seem to have that same Nasty in them, we should improve in our Run defense with the youth and size added there, and our run defense was pretty damn good to begin with.

That doesn't even include the UDFA's we have coming, freaks of nature athletically, were going to be hiding some of these guys on IR and PS for a season.

There are going to be some financial decisions with Vets this year that many of us won't appreciate when they happen, I really think we got the better draft in our division over all and that's not homerism it's looking at need and what we got as well as what our other division did overall.

We started out slow last year with injuries all over and some conflict in contracts, I don't think we will have that issue this year, our biggest obstacle will be how fast the youth get up to NFL speed. Our division rivals can't be very happy with what we were able to accomplish in one draft and who we signed as UFDA's, they may not know all our players when we did it, but I bet the spread sheets and googles are going crazy tonight looking at what these prospects bring and why we signed them.

Having in their mind almost or have caught us reloading successfully for us is a window closing on them now.

MizzouHawkGal · May 1, 2016

Yep. Seriously I was confused about getting 3 running backs but the UDFA's we signed is silly good and totally shows why we drafted like we did.

I'll be honest I have been very depressed since January because of the moves Arizona and Los Angeles have been making but I think we matched them with this draft. And we are the best team in the NFL if healthy unlike last year. We are getting the nasty back in spades. Just look at what we've drafted and signed as UFDA's. All nasty and physical guys except that Harvard Center that is a carbon copy of who we traded for Jimmy Graham.

kearly · May 1, 2016

Many previous drafts were about winning tomorrow by redshirting players with starter potential. This draft was about winning right now with rookies that can contribute on day one. It's easier to get rookies on the field when they are specialists- as a blocking tight end, a run stuffing DT, a situational pass rusher, or as a 3rd down back. In terms of rookie impact, this draft is going to help the team much more than the 2013 and 2014 drafts did. With the probable exception of the Boise St. Tackle, every player selected by Seattle in rounds 1-5 should be expected to see significant snaps as a rookie.

The downside is that drafting heavily for specialists means having less picks for cornerstone players. I don't think we'll likely see many Richard Sherman's or KJ Wright's or Kam Chancellor's out of this group. Not because it's a terrible group, but because most of the players acquired this weekend aren't full time / all-purpose / three down players.

The fact that Seattle traded a future pick as part of a deal today further solidifies the idea in my mind that Seattle is pushing their chips in the center this year. Which is probably wise, given that the schedule gods have gifted Seattle the most favorable sched of the PCJS era. It makes sense to be aggressive right now.

pehawk · May 1, 2016

This draft is exactly what they planned. A massive infusion of young and hungry talent, to augment a superstar core group. A cultural and competitive shot in the arm.

It was also a peek into what the Seahawks are going to become offensively. (sloppy) Power (party bottom) spread game with inside zone principles. Horizontal and vertical rushing attack with motion. I think they would've gone that route sooner if it wasn't for Lynch.

hawknation2016 · May 1, 2016

kearly":2yxjbmo8 said:
Many previous drafts were about winning tomorrow by redshirting players with starter potential. This draft was about winning right now with rookies that can contribute on day one. It's easier to get rookies on the field when they are specialists- as a blocking tight end, a run stuffing DT, a situational pass rusher, or as a 3rd down back. In terms of rookie impact, this draft is going to help the team much more than the 2013 and 2014 drafts did. With the probable exception of the Boise St. Tackle, every player selected by Seattle in rounds 1-5 should be expected to see significant snaps as a rookie.

The downside is that drafting heavily for specialists means having less picks for cornerstone players. I don't think we'll likely see many Richard Sherman's or KJ Wright's or Kam Chancellor's out of this group. Not because it's a terrible group, but because most of the players acquired this weekend aren't full time / all-purpose / three down players.

The fact that Seattle traded a future pick as part of a deal today further solidifies the idea in my mind that Seattle is pushing their chips in the center this year. Which is probably wise, given that the schedule gods have gifted Seattle the most favorable sched of the PCJS era. It makes sense to be aggressive right now.

The thing this front office does better than anyone else is finding gems who are undervalued by the rest of the league. RTs, NTs, RBs, etc. are positions that are CRITICAL to winning, yet they are undervalued in the NFL today. The result is that the majority of teams end up with subpar players at those positions, which ultimately hinders their ability to win. One way the Seahawks have set themselves apart in this draft is by putting emphasis on those positions that are typically undervalued.

Pandion Haliaetus · May 2, 2016

kearly":1v9hxzkd said:
Many previous drafts were about winning tomorrow by redshirting players with starter potential. This draft was about winning right now with rookies that can contribute on day one. It's easier to get rookies on the field when they are specialists- as a blocking tight end, a run stuffing DT, a situational pass rusher, or as a 3rd down back. In terms of rookie impact, this draft is going to help the team much more than the 2013 and 2014 drafts did. With the probable exception of the Boise St. Tackle, every player selected by Seattle in rounds 1-5 should be expected to see significant snaps as a rookie.

The downside is that drafting heavily for specialists means having less picks for cornerstone players. I don't think we'll likely see many Richard Sherman's or KJ Wright's or Kam Chancellor's out of this group. Not because it's a terrible group, but because most of the players acquired this weekend aren't full time / all-purpose / three down players.

The fact that Seattle traded a future pick as part of a deal today further solidifies the idea in my mind that Seattle is pushing their chips in the center this year. Which is probably wise, given that the schedule gods have gifted Seattle the most favorable sched of the PCJS era. It makes sense to be aggressive right now.

Dude, seriously you act like these guys are so highly limited and can only be specialist, role players.

Seahawks filled many of the blackholes on the roster, they got more physical, more tougher, more competitive with Pro ready players that can be plugged in right away.

Just because these guys fill very specific needs and thier strengths line up with those needs, doesnt mean these guys dont have potential and upside to expand and develop thier games into something more. They just make us better, right now.

Its pretty much like you are saying you rather have players that are raw and incomplete but have superb athleticism and high upside to be stars or projects that might transcend the position... rather than have plug in players contribute right away and develop later.

Ifedi has the potential to be a cornerstone at RT.

Reed has the potential to be a dominating DT in this league with or without the pass-rush. Seahawks gave big contracts to Mebane and Bryant once upon a time. Dominant rush-stuffers are also much cheaper and easier to re-sign than dominant 3 down DTs.

Proisse has more potential than just a 3rd down back, his ceiling is an all around move play-maker like Harvin. Theres a reason they wanted Harvin in this offense, just because he didnt work out doesnt mean they are going to stop trying to fill that void. And with Lynch gone, you dont have to worry about playing that type of offense nor the work ethic and poor attitude of Harvin.

Vannett has the potential to be more than just a blocking specialist but that role has been a blackhole for two seasons since Miller's injury. Vanett has the upside to be a complete all around TE. And the guy has the footwork to give LB fits and the physical presence to dominate.

Odhiambo possesses the footwork and space movement plus the intangibles to immediately challenge Britt and has the upside to be a solid LG for years if he can stay healthy. Thats value.

Jefferson is the really the only pure specialist I see in this draft class. But its an important one at that. However, you take his experience at both DE and DT, you bring him down 15 pounds, his length and athleticsm is a perfect match to Michael Bennett. His profile strengths also sounds alot like what Michael Bennett does. So who knows where Jefferson is at in 2 years if he sticks. Seahawks very well could have found a starter at RDE with similar ability to Bennett.

Collins is more than a powerback, he can be a three down player, hes just in a crowded position. Which is okay, if Rawls is healthy... He doesnt need to do it all. If Rawls isnt healthy, Collins is good enough to be the bell cow. Either way Seahawks wanted to guarantee depth at this position because its important to thier philosophy.

Hunt immediately can come in compete, he may have limited upside but he could arguably be the most complete center on the roster right now.

Again, Lawler and Brooks are really just inquiring about thier talents without having to compete for them on the UDFA market. Lawler is a play-making scoring machine and Brooks is more or less a sparq pick but they visited with him and liked what they saw.

This is far from a horrible draft from any perspective, Seahawks know what they are doing and they know more what they are doing and what they needed to do in this draft more than any of us. And they know more about what they are doing than they did in thier last 3 drafts. They likely revisted a lot of things in terms of catering to athletic measures and length and went out and just took football players rather than projects. Took guys with Pro-Ready footwork, guys with high-character to buy in, guys who bleed toughness and sweat grit, guys who work hard and have high football intelligence, guys who dont need to survive on pure athleticism, guys that can have immediate impact but still have the potential to transcend roles when the time is right.

MizzouHawkGal · May 2, 2016

Pandion Haliaetus":1gc344zz said:
kearly":1gc344zz said:

Many previous drafts were about winning tomorrow by redshirting players with starter potential. This draft was about winning right now with rookies that can contribute on day one. It's easier to get rookies on the field when they are specialists- as a blocking tight end, a run stuffing DT, a situational pass rusher, or as a 3rd down back. In terms of rookie impact, this draft is going to help the team much more than the 2013 and 2014 drafts did. With the probable exception of the Boise St. Tackle, every player selected by Seattle in rounds 1-5 should be expected to see significant snaps as a rookie.

The downside is that drafting heavily for specialists means having less picks for cornerstone players. I don't think we'll likely see many Richard Sherman's or KJ Wright's or Kam Chancellor's out of this group. Not because it's a terrible group, but because most of the players acquired this weekend aren't full time / all-purpose / three down players.

The fact that Seattle traded a future pick as part of a deal today further solidifies the idea in my mind that Seattle is pushing their chips in the center this year. Which is probably wise, given that the schedule gods have gifted Seattle the most favorable sched of the PCJS era. It makes sense to be aggressive right now.

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Dude, seriously you act like these guys are so highly limited and can only be specialist, role players.

Seahawks filled many of the blackholes on the roster, they got more physical, more tougher, more competitive with Pro ready players that can be plugged in right away.

Just because these guys fill very specific needs and thier strengths line up with those needs, doesnt mean these guys dont have potential and upside to expand and develop thier games into something more. They just make us better, right now.

Its pretty much like you are saying you rather have players that are raw and incomplete but have superb athleticism and high upside to be stars or projects that might transcend the position... rather than have plug in players contribute right away and develop later.

Ifedi has the potential to be a cornerstone at RT.

Reed has the potential to be a dominating DT in this league with or without the pass-rush. Seahawks gave big contracts to Mebane and Bryant once upon a time. Dominant rush-stuffers are also much cheaper and easier to re-sign than dominant 3 down DTs.

Proisse has more potential than just a 3rd down back, his ceiling is an all around move play-maker like Harvin. Theres a reason they wanted Harvin in this offense, just because he didnt work out doesnt mean they are going to stop trying to fill that void. And with Lynch gone, you dont have to worry about playing that type of offense nor the work ethic and poor attitude of Harvin.

Vannett has the potential to be more than just a blocking specialist but that role has been a blackhole for two seasons since Miller's injury. Vanett has the upside to be a complete all around TE. And the guy has the footwork to give LB fits and the physical presence to dominate.

Odhiambo possesses the footwork and space movement plus the intangibles to immediately challenge Britt and has the upside to be a solid LG for years if he can stay healthy. Thats value.

Jefferson is the really the only pure specialist I see in this draft class. But its an important one at that. However, you take his experience at both DE and DT, you bring him down 15 pounds, his length and athleticsm is a perfect match to Michael Bennett. His profile strengths also sounds alot like what Michael Bennett does. So who knows where Jefferson is at in 2 years if he sticks. Seahawks very well could have found a starter at RDE with similar ability to Bennett.

Collins is more than a powerback, he can be a three down player, hes just in a crowded position. Which is okay, if Rawls is healthy... He doesnt need to do it all. If Rawls isnt healthy, Collins is good enough to be the bell cow. Either way Seahawks wanted to guarantee depth at this position because its important to thier philosophy.

Hunt immediately can come in compete, he may have limited upside but he could arguably be the most complete center on the roster right now.

Again, Lawler and Brooks are really just inquiring about thier talents without having to compete for them on the UDFA market. Lawler is a play-making scoring machine and Brooks is more or less a sparq pick but they visited with him and liked what they saw.

This is far from a horrible draft from any perspective, Seahawks know what they are doing and they know more what they are doing and what they needed to do in this draft more than any of us. And they know more about what they are doing than they did in thier last 3 drafts. They likely revisted a lot of things in terms of catering to athletic measures and length and went out and just took football players rather than projects. Took guys with Pro-Ready footwork, guys with high-character to buy in, guys who bleed toughness and sweat grit, guys who work hard and have high football intelligence, guys who dont need to survive on pure athleticism, guys that can have immediate impact but still have the potential to transcend roles when the time is right.

Exactly. And it's why I think Kearly is pretty much off his rocker this year. It's seriously insulting and in my opinion stupid to compare this draft to ANYTHING Ruskell did.

That ignorant punk destroyed a Superbowl level team in 2 years. While this draft is what you call a classic reload. Because we don't need a rebuild or new core. We have that until Wilson retires. Isn't fun being like the legacy teams?

Pandion Haliaetus · May 2, 2016

MizzouHawkGal":2a3fun4d said:
Pandion Haliaetus":2a3fun4d said:

kearly":2a3fun4d said:

Many previous drafts were about winning tomorrow by redshirting players with starter potential. This draft was about winning right now with rookies that can contribute on day one. It's easier to get rookies on the field when they are specialists- as a blocking tight end, a run stuffing DT, a situational pass rusher, or as a 3rd down back. In terms of rookie impact, this draft is going to help the team much more than the 2013 and 2014 drafts did. With the probable exception of the Boise St. Tackle, every player selected by Seattle in rounds 1-5 should be expected to see significant snaps as a rookie.

The downside is that drafting heavily for specialists means having less picks for cornerstone players. I don't think we'll likely see many Richard Sherman's or KJ Wright's or Kam Chancellor's out of this group. Not because it's a terrible group, but because most of the players acquired this weekend aren't full time / all-purpose / three down players.

The fact that Seattle traded a future pick as part of a deal today further solidifies the idea in my mind that Seattle is pushing their chips in the center this year. Which is probably wise, given that the schedule gods have gifted Seattle the most favorable sched of the PCJS era. It makes sense to be aggressive right now.

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Dude, seriously you act like these guys are so highly limited and can only be specialist, role players.

Seahawks filled many of the blackholes on the roster, they got more physical, more tougher, more competitive with Pro ready players that can be plugged in right away.

Just because these guys fill very specific needs and thier strengths line up with those needs, doesnt mean these guys dont have potential and upside to expand and develop thier games into something more. They just make us better, right now.

Its pretty much like you are saying you rather have players that are raw and incomplete but have superb athleticism and high upside to be stars or projects that might transcend the position... rather than have plug in players contribute right away and develop later.

Ifedi has the potential to be a cornerstone at RT.

Reed has the potential to be a dominating DT in this league with or without the pass-rush. Seahawks gave big contracts to Mebane and Bryant once upon a time. Dominant rush-stuffers are also much cheaper and easier to re-sign than dominant 3 down DTs.

Proisse has more potential than just a 3rd down back, his ceiling is an all around move play-maker like Harvin. Theres a reason they wanted Harvin in this offense, just because he didnt work out doesnt mean they are going to stop trying to fill that void. And with Lynch gone, you dont have to worry about playing that type of offense nor the work ethic and poor attitude of Harvin.

Vannett has the potential to be more than just a blocking specialist but that role has been a blackhole for two seasons since Miller's injury. Vanett has the upside to be a complete all around TE. And the guy has the footwork to give LB fits and the physical presence to dominate.

Odhiambo possesses the footwork and space movement plus the intangibles to immediately challenge Britt and has the upside to be a solid LG for years if he can stay healthy. Thats value.

Jefferson is the really the only pure specialist I see in this draft class. But its an important one at that. However, you take his experience at both DE and DT, you bring him down 15 pounds, his length and athleticsm is a perfect match to Michael Bennett. His profile strengths also sounds alot like what Michael Bennett does. So who knows where Jefferson is at in 2 years if he sticks. Seahawks very well could have found a starter at RDE with similar ability to Bennett.

Collins is more than a powerback, he can be a three down player, hes just in a crowded position. Which is okay, if Rawls is healthy... He doesnt need to do it all. If Rawls isnt healthy, Collins is good enough to be the bell cow. Either way Seahawks wanted to guarantee depth at this position because its important to thier philosophy.

Hunt immediately can come in compete, he may have limited upside but he could arguably be the most complete center on the roster right now.

Again, Lawler and Brooks are really just inquiring about thier talents without having to compete for them on the UDFA market. Lawler is a play-making scoring machine and Brooks is more or less a sparq pick but they visited with him and liked what they saw.

This is far from a horrible draft from any perspective, Seahawks know what they are doing and they know more what they are doing and what they needed to do in this draft more than any of us. And they know more about what they are doing than they did in thier last 3 drafts. They likely revisted a lot of things in terms of catering to athletic measures and length and went out and just took football players rather than projects. Took guys with Pro-Ready footwork, guys with high-character to buy in, guys who bleed toughness and sweat grit, guys who work hard and have high football intelligence, guys who dont need to survive on pure athleticism, guys that can have immediate impact but still have the potential to transcend roles when the time is right.

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Exactly. And it's why I think Kearly is pretty much off his rocker this year. It's seriously insulting and in my opinion stupid to compare this draft to ANYTHING Ruskell did.

That ignorant punk destroyed a Superbowl level team in 2 years. While this draft is what you call a classic reload. Because we don't need a rebuild or new core. We have that until Wilson retires. Isn't fun being like the legacy teams?

I dont understand the Ruskell comparison either.

1. Other than possibly Hunt and Lawler, who in this draft class are undersized, over-achievers that have maxed out thier physical potential?

2. All of our picks are seemingly high-character but is there a complete lack of grit or toughness in any of our picks. All of the seem bring a certain aura of nastiness in thier own way. They are Carroll-era Seahawks players.

3. Is this FO and Coaching Staff competing in a power struggle with a total lack of chemistry to get on the same page in terms of team direction and player fit?

4. Is the core dramatically aging? Has this team shown a complete lack of competitiveness when face with injuries or adversity. Does this team lack the leadership that will lead to a carefree culture?

5. Is this team unafraid to move on from established players or contracts if another player steps up or if a player doesnt fit?

This franchise isnt declining, thier isnt a power struggle between head coach and gm, thier isnt a lack of leadership... This team just had very specific holes to fill in order to get back to that level of dominence they experienced in 2013. The only player they over-drafted to most projections was Rees Odhiambo but his gap is much shorter than what Britt was considered 2 years ago.

MizzouHawkGal · May 2, 2016

Duh. I think you get it. Why the book sized post though? It's total overkill. Though I am confused why you don't get the Ruskell comparison. He was an ignorant tool. John Schneider isn't. It's really just that simple. Kearly is right in a way but he just doesn't account for the fact that the Seahawks don't suck in talent level, culture or organizational level like before 2010.

2005 was nice but we weren't national like we are now. We are at the cusp of being a legacy team.. We would have already been so if we didn't screw up in 2013.

kf3339 · May 2, 2016

kearly":ttl3umlh said:
Many previous drafts were about winning tomorrow by redshirting players with starter potential. This draft was about winning right now with rookies that can contribute on day one. It's easier to get rookies on the field when they are specialists- as a blocking tight end, a run stuffing DT, a situational pass rusher, or as a 3rd down back. In terms of rookie impact, this draft is going to help the team much more than the 2013 and 2014 drafts did. With the probable exception of the Boise St. Tackle, every player selected by Seattle in rounds 1-5 should be expected to see significant snaps as a rookie.

The downside is that drafting heavily for specialists means having less picks for cornerstone players. I don't think we'll likely see many Richard Sherman's or KJ Wright's or Kam Chancellor's out of this group. Not because it's a terrible group, but because most of the players acquired this weekend aren't full time / all-purpose / three down players.

The fact that Seattle traded a future pick as part of a deal today further solidifies the idea in my mind that Seattle is pushing their chips in the center this year. Which is probably wise, given that the schedule gods have gifted Seattle the most favorable sched of the PCJS era. It makes sense to be aggressive right now.

You know Kearly, I really like how you evaluate the Seahawks on your comments and for the most part agree with most of what you preach. But in this draft there is just something off with your comments.

Who the hell was Sherman, Wright or Chancellor when they were picked in their draft's? They weren't first, second or even third round picks. They were middle round guys who no one (And I Mean No One), knew would amount to anything. The fact they are "NOW" the players they become is because of the coaching and their will to compete and be better than their draft position.

No one (including you) has any idea what any of these players will become this next year, or in three to four years from now. We can only go by the hope and believe that PC and JS understood what issues they needed to address and picked players that were not just great athletes, but also fit what this team needed NOW. For all we know their are 4-5 "Cornerstone Players" in this group. No one knows. That's the thing to me.

I think sometimes you may lose sight of that fact. I hope that is the case because you have a lot of great analysis and many value your insights (including me). Just not with this draft for me.

Pandion Haliaetus · May 2, 2016

MizzouHawkGal":3a9rlpti said:
Duh. I think you get it. Why the book sized post though? It's total overkill. Though I am confused why you don't get the Ruskell comparison. He was an ignorant tool. John Schneider isn't. It's really just that simple. Kearly is right in a way but he just doesn't account for the fact that the Seahawks don't suck in talent level, culture or organizational level like before 2010.

2005 was nice but we weren't national like we are now. We are at the cusp of being a legacy team.. We would have already been so if we didn't screw up in 2013.

I meant I dont understand why kearly is pushing that narrative.

MizzouHawkGal · May 2, 2016

Pandion Haliaetus":2s4s01gj said:
MizzouHawkGal":2s4s01gj said:

Duh. I think you get it. Why the book sized post though? It's total overkill. Though I am confused why you don't get the Ruskell comparison. He was an ignorant tool. John Schneider isn't. It's really just that simple. Kearly is right in a way but he just doesn't account for the fact that the Seahawks don't suck in talent level, culture or organizational level like before 2010.

2005 was nice but we weren't national like we are now. We are at the cusp of being a legacy team.. We would have already been so if we didn't screw up in 2013.

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I meant I dont understand why kearly is pushing that narrative.

Agreed. Hence I think he's wrong, simple as that.

HawKnPeppa · May 2, 2016

MizzouHawkGal":1ylmbewd said:
Yep. Seriously I was confused about getting 3 running backs but the UDFA's we signed is silly good and totally shows why we drafted like we did.

I'll be honest I have been very depressed since January because of the moves Arizona and Los Angeles have been making but I think we matched them with this draft. And we are the best team in the NFL if healthy unlike last year. We are getting the nasty back in spades. Just look at what we've drafted and signed as UFDA's. All nasty and physical guys except that Harvard Center that is a carbon copy of who we traded for Jimmy Graham.

Harvard? Well I suppose if you've seen one Ivy League school you've seen em all. As long as he's more durable than Unger, I'm in for the short term. Would love to see what we have in Sokoli one year from now.

Largent80 · May 2, 2016

We HAD to get OL and did, however.....these are rookies regardless of what position they played in college and there will be growing pains. This is mostly due to the experiment of converting DL to OL. Carrying a convert like Sokoli as a developmental player on this roster needs to be re-thought IMO.

I Think the Hawks did pretty damn well (on paper). Get ready for some growing pains on the OL however.

2_0_6 · May 2, 2016

kearly":1rgekgi0 said:
The fact that Seattle traded a future pick as part of a deal today further solidifies the idea in my mind that Seattle is pushing their chips in the center this year. .

So trading a future 4th round pick defines going all in?

McGruff · May 2, 2016

kearly":1r11iplo said:
Many previous drafts were about winning tomorrow by redshirting players with starter potential. This draft was about winning right now with rookies that can contribute on day one. It's easier to get rookies on the field when they are specialists- as a blocking tight end, a run stuffing DT, a situational pass rusher, or as a 3rd down back. In terms of rookie impact, this draft is going to help the team much more than the 2013 and 2014 drafts did. With the probable exception of the Boise St. Tackle, every player selected by Seattle in rounds 1-5 should be expected to see significant snaps as a rookie.

The downside is that drafting heavily for specialists means having less picks for cornerstone players. I don't think we'll likely see many Richard Sherman's or KJ Wright's or Kam Chancellor's out of this group. Not because it's a terrible group, but because most of the players acquired this weekend aren't full time / all-purpose / three down players.

The fact that Seattle traded a future pick as part of a deal today further solidifies the idea in my mind that Seattle is pushing their chips in the center this year. Which is probably wise, given that the schedule gods have gifted Seattle the most favorable sched of the PCJS era. It makes sense to be aggressive right now.

Lockett was drafted as a specialist. So was Irvin. They outgrew their roles and we're allowed to to.

Just becuase a guy like Reed, or Jefferson, or Prosise is a specialist now doesn't mean they are a specialist forever. All three of those guys has the build and the mental makeup to become fulltime players. Although along the DL I don't think we have any interest in fulltime players. We want waves, and now we have a line that is truly 2 deep and can be mixed and matched.

I know you were bullish on Ervin and I get that, but in Prosise we have a guy who can do 90% what Ervin could do as a rookie, but with the build to do 110% of what Ervin could do for the restimate of his career.

sutz · May 2, 2016

The thing is, I believe Ruskell's main problem, other than his ability to really evaluate and fit talent to the team, was that he over-valued the talent on the team that lost to the Steelers, and thought he was doing 'maintenance' drafts, instead of actually addressing some glaring weaknesses in that team. The depth sucked, and we never repeated, largely because of that.

The current team is much better suited to repeat, because the core of it is still pretty sound. This group, other than some glaring problems at OL and RB, is still a playoff caliber team. This draft added a lot of bodies to address those two problems specifically. Whether they were successful remains to be seen.

v1rotv2 · May 2, 2016

Hawk_Nation":1l70lx9m said:
kearly":1l70lx9m said:

The fact that Seattle traded a future pick as part of a deal today further solidifies the idea in my mind that Seattle is pushing their chips in the center this year. .

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So trading a future 4th round pick defines going all in?

Yeah, I don't get that comment either. All it tells me is that JS and PC saw a player they really wanted. It is unusual for them yes but the rest of the league does it all the time. Trading a fourth is not like you gambled your future away. Compare what they did to the Rams / Titan trade and it's nothing.

I am starting to think that folks sometime want to post just to be controversial.

justafan · May 2, 2016

I think Infedi and Reed have a great chance to become cornerstone players.

Vannett brings a skill set that may allow him to become a more important part of the team than Graham, healtny or not.

Its anybodys guess what these RBs will add to the team, we may have the next great back for the Hawks.

Nothing is absolute or set in stone when you are talking about draft picks,but there is a lot of talent to work with.This could be a draft that sets us up for many years to come.

chris98251 · May 2, 2016

Vannett has the makings to be Bavarroish.

Looking at what we did

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