FINAL NET DRAFT GRADES

What is YOUR final grade for the Seahawks 2016 draft?

  • A+

    Votes: 18 11.9%
  • A-

    Votes: 60 39.7%
  • B+

    Votes: 60 39.7%
  • B-

    Votes: 9 6.0%
  • C+

    Votes: 3 2.0%
  • C- or less

    Votes: 1 0.7%

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Here is where each and everyone one of you gets to speak out and stake your claim for what YOU think is the Seahawks final draft grade for 2016.
 

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A+, UFDA class took if from a B+ to an A+.

I really believe the brass killed this draft.


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My grade is TBD.

As in this was through and through a ThrowBack Draft. Other than Prossie and Brooks, Seahawks just went out and just got some gritty, tough-nosed football... All with seemingly high-character to boot.

No restrictions on athleticism, sparq parameters, or TEF projects, no conversions cadidates. Just players with enough acumen, aptitude, and attitude to fill whatever role the Seahawks drafted them for.

This is a blue chip draft, this a 2012 draft, various needs, and perhaps a small bit of desperation to get football players rather than superior athletes.

I think in from 2013- and parts of 2015 drafts the roster was so stacked you could take risk on potential.

Couldnt be any more happier, this teams has got the bodies it needed in the areas it really needed them.

This team got young, hungry, and nasty again and even more competitive.

We'll see how it works out.
 

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To me, the 2016 draft has the least amount of impact starters and cornerstone players for the future, but has the most amount of part-time contributors and role players who can help right away. This draft might help the 2016 football team more than the 2011 draft helped the 2011 team- but I don't think we'll look back on this 2016 draft in five years and talk about any of these 2016 draft picks the same way we talk about Sherman or KJ Wright today.

Or for that matter, none of the picks this year jump out at me the same way that Lockett or Clark did a year ago. If those two guys were in the 2016 group they would be head and shoulders above the rest of the draft class.

Instead of stockpiling potential franchise cornerstones, we have a collection of decent complimentary contributors that will help fill out the roster. This draft was about smoothing out the tiny cracks in the present roster, rather than building a super star foundation for Super Bowl runs in 2020 and 2021.

To me, that makes this draft an average one. I'd give this draft a C, but since it is a weak draft overall and nobody in the NFL had a truly great draft this year, I'll grade on a curve and give the Seahawks a C+. A draft focused on the short term like this is fine every once in a while, and in this year particularly the timing makes a lot of sense, but next year I'd like Seattle to get back to drafting ambitiously- looking for the next batch of future all-pro players instead of spending high picks on part time players and low-impact specialists.

The real draft grade is to be determined years from now. This post is merely an expression of what is observable at this moment in time. The draft always has a way of looking different a few years removed.
 

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I really think we have a class that on potential could light things up for a while if some of the players pop, Our TE, the RB's and then our D line. Our O line guys if they are as smart as the staff says should solidify a problem of the musical chairs we have been having and were going to get better just from that, add skill sets and we have to be happy with our results going forward.
 

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I thought the Ifedi pick was very solid. The other two OL drafted are basically on the same level as John Moffitt and Steve Vallos in my eyes. Maybe they pan out, but I wouldn't bet on it. Which is to say, I think this is an ongoing, multi-year effort to fix this thing.

The spread will help our OL look decent this year, and if there is any team that has proven that you can win without a good OL, it's Seattle. So I'm not worried. I just think it's going to be a while before we're bragging to fans of other teams about our O-line.
 

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I think we are grading from such a deficit because Seattle has never had a dominate OL in the Carroll era....been safe and solid to downright scary bad at times last year, but it's possible that if the Front Office truly opened up the competition, players like Britt, Lewis and even Glowinski could be non-starters this year.

This was clearly the best draft in a long long time.....Lawler is light years better than P Richardson, Kevin Norwood or anyone drafted in a long time....

The rotation of street free agents subbing in at DT should end with real depth now.....

The front office showed discipline and allowed the chemistry to be rebuilt with the secondary by not adding unnecessary pieces drafted at CB or Safety that would not make the roster.

They also addressed the ability to make you miss with a RB that played WR in college in Prosise, while securing insurance in a hard-nosed Alex Collins at RB. We are not talking about Fred Jackson who should have converted more first downs, but just lacked the footspeed to make the plays in the flat needed. We will more the chains and sustain more drives with these additions.

All of these small pieces add to the time of possession going up in the first half of games, which will keep the defense fresher. I know it sounds silly, but Dallas improved their defense by 1 TD per game, just by drafting Zeke Elliott....if he is healthy and they keep Romo upright, that is the 3rd surprise team that will make a rapid improvement next year. If you match up the shored up DLine and run defense, we are prepared to stop Eddie Lacy, Elliott and more importantly, the scam Newton QB draws vs Carolina.

This draft was situation-specific where in about 7-8 plays a game, we were shorthanded....add a first down here or there, get one additional stop on defense and this record shoots back to 12-4 or 13-3, vs 10-6 and not matching up well with the Rams at the line of scrimmage.

It will come down to whether Russell Wilson puts in the work this offseason and adjusts to making accurate safe throws to the backs out of the backfield and whether we get stops inside vs teams running the ball right at SEA.....to me, both of those items are now strengths vs not being sure we can stop the Gurley, Elliott, Carolina type running attacks. We had no chance to get back to that level until 2nd and 7 or 6, goes back to 2nd and 8 or 9 and we dictate what teams want to do against our defense.
 

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I gave them a B+, but I think that the correct answer, as someone said is: TBD. We should re-grade next february ...
It was a non-sexy draft, no one to fell very excited about, but if we had to reinforce the trenches, it's normal not to find a really exciting player.
For me, the worst pick is Odhiambo, they could easily have taken him from the 6th, 7th or even the UDFA, but they spent a 3rd round to pick an injury prone guard... They must have their reasons, but so far, I don't understand the pick at all...
 

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I graded it an A-. I think the front office did a great job of getting good value for each pick and picked up some terrific UDFA's.
 

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I really liked the Ifedi pick. He has great size, length and athleticism. I project him as a left tackle eventually. He looks to have much better upside than Carpenter. (fans seem to compare the two) He was always out of shape and stiff. One thought last thought was watching Carpenter make a lunging tackle as rookie. He was really not too intellectual. It was so not funny watching carpenter get bowled over.....Ifedi was ranked as a top six talent at the position and I believe that the difference between top ranked players is a matter of opinion and coaching talent.

Jarran Reed pick definitely kicked buns. I like his witty charm. Comes from Alabama. Awesome that Bane left and we have a cheaper replacement. We have the top scoring defense and this should keep us in line with that expectation. Between him and Silega(sp) we covered that spot for awhile in my opinion.

So the two fist picks are eventual starters. Great value for both of them. Home runs.

The entire third round was a complete disaster. Every pick made in the third was a reach- as in nobody had these people on their radar. Not only that, we let proven Offensive Line talent get away.......should have traded up. The ammo was perfect for that. Only one of those thirds was compensatory.

More defensive line. Who is on the bubble I wonder? Hill?

Ok so we targeted a running back or three. That position is addressed. The picks were solid said the pundit and now the roster is definitely going to have some churn this year.

It was an average draft. I am sure the players picked all have potential of some kind. It just kinda looks like a few of our other drafts with a few real head scratches in there that definitely wont be on the team.

There was alot of talent left on the table This was a draft to excoriate our demons on the Oline for a few years to come. Maybe not right away. But eventually...........this says to me the FO has faith in the free agents we added and that the conversion projects on board from last year will come around. I just hope the clock is ticking on Tom Cable. He is a good coach but his personnel choices are underwhelming.

I read Walter and read Chad.............I listened to Mike Mayock. They seem to real big Seahawk fans these days. Who could blame them. "Players that fit our team" that's how we grade them. I wanted safer O lineman. Barrels of them.

Ultimately, we got too smart.....we stayed on the board for the first two picks....good values. Had we dumbed down a bit we coulda had Joe Dahl, Connor McGovern, LeRaven Clark, Cody Whitehair all were there for the asking. We positioned ourselves very well. A plus for that. Then we got test anxiety and flubbed at wrong time. I give this draft a C+ (lets not be confused....yes next day draft grades are what they are-so dont kick dirt in face and run away saying, "You stupid you hate Russell Wilson!")

I do like that Trevor Boykin and Vernon Adams are coming to camp. TCUs qb was sign as a undrafted free agent and Vernon Adams is comin in for a 3 day tryout. Supercool.
 

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kearly":15ur1ion said:
To me, the 2016 draft has the least amount of impact starters and cornerstone players for the future, but has the most amount of part-time contributors and role players who can help right away. This draft might help the 2016 football team more than the 2011 draft helped the 2011 team- but I don't think we'll look back on this 2016 draft in five years and talk about any of these 2016 draft picks the same way we talk about Sherman or KJ Wright today.

Or for that matter, none of the picks this year jump out at me the same way that Lockett or Clark did a year ago. If those two guys were in the 2016 group they would be head and shoulders above the rest of the draft class.

Instead of stockpiling potential franchise cornerstones, we have a collection of decent complimentary contributors that will help fill out the roster. This draft was about smoothing out the tiny cracks in the present roster, rather than building a super star foundation for Super Bowl runs in 2020 and 2021.

To me, that makes this draft an average one. I'd give this draft a C, but since it is a weak draft overall and nobody in the NFL had a truly great draft this year, I'll grade on a curve and give the Seahawks a C+. A draft focused on the short term like this is fine every once in a while, and in this year particularly the timing makes a lot of sense, but next year I'd like Seattle to get back to drafting ambitiously- looking for the next batch of future all-pro players instead of spending high picks on part time players and low-impact specialists.

The real draft grade is to be determined years from now. This post is merely an expression of what is observable at this moment in time. The draft always has a way of looking different a few years removed.
I disagree, about this not having impact starters. Ifedi has a ton of potential at right tackle.
Jarran Reed was regarded as one of the best run stuffing DT to come out in a while. He has the potential to be better than Mebane which is high impact.
I am a lot higher on Alex Collins than you are. He has great vision and his ability to navigate and slice through the middle of the line is VERY reminiscent of Marshawn (not saying he is Marshawn but they both had excellent vision and ability between the tackles).
CJ Prosise has a chance to develop into an outstanding HB.
Rees Ohdiambo was regarded highly by most scouts we'll see if he can remain healthy.
Overall I see the potential for a lot of high impact players here. Not sure why you are so down on this class or this years class as a whole.
 

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Atradees":29yptp8y said:
The entire third round was a complete disaster. Every pick made in the third was a reach- as in nobody had these people on their radar. Not only that, we let proven Offensive Line talent get away.......should have traded up. The ammo was perfect for that. Only one of those thirds was compensatory.

I do like that Trevor Boykin and Vernon Adams are coming to camp. TCUs qb was sign as a undrafted free agent and Vernon Adams is comin in for a 3 day tryout. Supercool.

I mostly agreed with your post, it captured a lot of what I was feeling during the draft as well. Day 2 was very frustrating. Like you said, I was really hoping Seattle would move around to load up on offensive line given how the draft was falling. Had Seattle stayed put in the second round, they could have had the most athletic and top rated guard Cody Whitehair at #56, and then used the 4th rounder they didn't spend to trade up in round 3 for Shon Coleman or Le'Raven Clark. It would have been pretty unreal to start of the draft with Ifedi, Whitehair and Coleman/Clark, while still having two more 3rd rounders to spend on whoever.

I'm just a fan and I'm very glad that they are running the team and not me. But still, there are frustrating moments sometimes.

I'm 100% fine with Seattle making "who?" picks. I'd never heard of Jefferson, but after looking into it he seems like a great pick. Sherman, Wright, and Chancellor were all "who?" picks for me. I'm totally cool with PCJS going off the radar.

Agreed with you that getting Boykin and (maybe) Vernon Adams is a huge lift for this draft. If Boykin turns into the next Tyrod Taylor, or if Adams makes the team and turns into Russell Wilson-lite, then I'd have to bump this draft up a couple of notches. Having a good backup QB is huge, especially given our OL issues.

Natethegreat":29yptp8y said:
I disagree, about this not having impact starters. Ifedi has a ton of potential at right tackle.
Jarran Reed was regarded as one of the best run stuffing DT to come out in a while. He has the potential to be better than Mebane which is high impact.
I am a lot higher on Alex Collins than you are. He has great vision and his ability to navigate and slice through the middle of the line is VERY reminiscent of Marshawn (not saying he is Marshawn but they both had excellent vision and ability between the tackles).
CJ Prosise has a chance to develop into an outstanding HB.
Rees Ohdiambo was regarded highly by most scouts we'll see if he can remain healthy.
Overall I see the potential for a lot of high impact players here. Not sure why you are so down on this class or this years class as a whole.

Ifedi has a pretty good chance to be a cornerstone guy. I liked that pick a lot.

Reed is a good player and has value for Pete, but he's a 2 down specialist with limited free agency value. Collins has got some flaws and is a project IMO. Procise is a pretty good 3rd down back who is not a great fit for ZBS on 1st and 2nd downs. Rees Ohdiambo is less athletic and less durable than John Moffitt. I like Vannett a lot, but he is a pure blocking TE so his value is limited.

Jefferson was my favorite pick. He'll be a 3rd down pass rusher to start off but with pass rushing DTs you never know, sometimes they develop into 3 down players like Jaye Howard did.

I liked the UDFA haul.

It just seemed like Seattle drafted very few players, relative to past drafts, that project as full-time / 3 down players and instead emphasized part timer and specialists with limited value.
 

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I rate it a A- right now. If they get CJ to add 15 lbs and play fullback, then it's an A+.
 

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I disagree entirely... sure Seahawks drafted to fill holes but this team had voids to fill. This is far from a Ruskellian draft, these players arent undersized, overachieving choir boys already maxed out save for OC Hunt.

This isnt an FO and Coaching staff at odds in pgilosphu trying to undermime or push each other out.

This isnt a fluttering franchise caught in a power battle at the top, the core is much better than it was in the Holmgren golden years. The leaders on the team are much better too and they take tremendous pride in helping out thier brothers to play the right way.

With that said, again this draft was about filling blackholes on the roster and still add potential. Just because they didnt pursue elite athleticism and raw potential, this ultimately was a draft where they couldnt afford projects.

Ifedi immediately can challenge Webb, and best case scenario hes a cornerstone RT. Worst case he's a swing player on the right side.

Reed immediately fills the void left by Mebane with the potential to be better. Best case scenario is the team can coach him up as a pass-rusher and hes develops into a more complete player. Worst case imo is he becomes an elite run defending DT but one that can inspire toughness and physicality through his aggressive, tough-nosed passionate play. Dude is a guy who does the dirty work and just makes everyone better.

Proisse is a guy with the potential to immediately fill that 3rd down RB role left by Fred Jackson. However, his true potential is being an elite dual threat play-maker in the mold of Tate and Harvin. A guy like this also helps prepare the defense against those pesky dink and dunk zone beating offenses.

Nick Vannett immediately fills the void of Zach Miller. Seahawks think of him as the best Y TE to come out in years. Imo, and many would agree a lock down in-line blocker was a huge need. But he's more than that he can be moved around like an H-back, as pass-catching upside, and the guy as elite footwork for his size. Willson despite all his athleticism was a so-so blocker because he lacked the footwork to be strong and stout.

Idhiambo is a guy who many hate with the pick but the dude is pro-ready. He fires off the ball with strength and conviction, possesses solid footwork which allows him to moves well in space and recover in Pass-Protectionm despite a lack of overall athleticism. Best case scenario is he becomes a lockdown LG. Worst case hes a swing guy on the Left Side.

Jefferson is a potential pick as well, they liked his experience at DE and DT, and likely feel like hes far from a finished product but is a grounded player with a incredible work ethic. Best case scenario is he becomes a valuable rotational pass-rusher. Worst case scenario he keeps Hill on his toes in competition.

Alex Collins is a 3 down RB. Already. This guy is a great play-maker with a unique running style. Best case scenario he adds immediate depth and position of uncertainty with Lynch's retirement, Rawls injury, and Michaels work ethic. Worst case scenario hes the tough-nosed powerback in a commitee.

Hunt is perhaps the most potentially limited player in the draft classm due to his size and length issues. However, he checks all the boxes of what a true center is about in terms of mentality and skill and can come in immediately a push the threshhold of competition.

Lawler and Brooks were plain and simple UDFA buys. With the depth chart at those positions, theyll be hard pressed to add them in the UDFA pool if they wanted to see what they can offer.

Seahawks also scored big in thier UDFA/tryout pool, getting a lot of potential and a lot of players that people would have been estatic about in rounds 5-7.
 

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I wasn't overly in love with the RBs picked, but Prosise is intriguing as a third down option. Plus, I think Pete showed last year he's pretty good at evaluating young running backs. ;)

Outside of that, I think the Hawks nailed the draft. Reed is easily going to be more than just a run plugger. He's not the man mountain that a guy like Knighton is. He's much more agile and has some wiggle and quicks to his game. In our scheme, as Carroll expands his role and moves him around, he's going to cause havoc. I can't wait to see all the things he's eventually going to be able to do. Right now I guess we will just have to settle for the best run stuffer in the draft.

Ifedi is going to be interesting. A RT is never going to be a sexy pick, but at some point if he breaks the stigma of playing on the left side he's talented enough to play both tackle spots. That'll be immensely valuable moving forward.

The 3rd round feel like picks designed to augment certain position groups. They don't seem to be players tagged as day one starters. Some might see that as wasted opportunity, but making the TE group more versatile and getting a third down back to compliment Rawls helps us on game day. I don't have any feel for the Boise St guard, so I won't judge. We will have to see how some of the other mid round lineman fair.

All in all a good draft, and if you throw in a pass rushing DT they traded up for, a center they obviously like, and the UDFA, there's a lot of shots at hitting on guys. Can't wait for mini camps and TC.
 

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I gave this draft an A- and believe it will go down as one of our overall best drafts in Seahawk history.

Of course none of will know for three years or so, but that is how I feel right now.
 
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Pandion Haliaetus":3j722ydm said:
I disagree entirely... sure Seahawks drafted to fill holes but this team had voids to fill. This is far from a Ruskellian draft, these players arent undersized, overachieving choir boys already maxed out save for OC Hunt.

This isnt an FO and Coaching staff at odds in pgilosphu trying to undermime or push each other out.

This isnt a fluttering franchise caught in a power battle at the top, the core is much better than it was in the Holmgren golden years. The leaders on the team are much better too and they take tremendous pride in helping out thier brothers to play the right way.

With that said, again this draft was about filling blackholes on the roster and still add potential. Just because they didnt pursue elite athleticism and raw potential, this ultimately was a draft where they couldnt afford projects.

Ifedi immediately can challenge Webb, and best case scenario hes a cornerstone RT. Worst case he's a swing player on the right side.

Reed immediately fills the void left by Mebane with the potential to be better. Best case scenario is the team can coach him up as a pass-rusher and hes develops into a more complete player. Worst case imo is he becomes an elite run defending DT but one that can inspire toughness and physicality through his aggressive, tough-nosed passionate play. Dude is a guy who does the dirty work and just makes everyone better.

Proisse is a guy with the potential to immediately fill that 3rd down RB role left by Fred Jackson. However, his true potential is being an elite dual threat play-maker in the mold of Tate and Harvin. A guy like this also helps prepare the defense against those pesky dink and dunk zone beating offenses.

Nick Vannett immediately fills the void of Zach Miller. Seahawks think of him as the best Y TE to come out in years. Imo, and many would agree a lock down in-line blocker was a huge need. But he's more than that he can be moved around like an H-back, as pass-catching upside, and the guy as elite footwork for his size. Willson despite all his athleticism was a so-so blocker because he lacked the footwork to be strong and stout.

Idhiambo is a guy who many hate with the pick but the dude is pro-ready. He fires off the ball with strength and conviction, possesses solid footwork which allows him to moves well in space and recover in Pass-Protectionm despite a lack of overall athleticism. Best case scenario is he becomes a lockdown LG. Worst case hes a swing guy on the Left Side.

Jefferson is a potential pick as well, they liked his experience at DE and DT, and likely feel like hes far from a finished product but is a grounded player with a incredible work ethic. Best case scenario is he becomes a valuable rotational pass-rusher. Worst case scenario he keeps Hill on his toes in competition.

Alex Collins is a 3 down RB. Already. This guy is a great play-maker with a unique running style. Best case scenario he adds immediate depth and position of uncertainty with Lynch's retirement, Rawls injury, and Michaels work ethic. Worst case scenario hes the tough-nosed powerback in a commitee.

Hunt is perhaps the most potentially limited player in the draft classm due to his size and length issues. However, he checks all the boxes of what a true center is about in terms of mentality and skill and can come in immediately a push the threshhold of competition.

Lawler and Brooks were plain and simple UDFA buys. With the depth chart at those positions, theyll be hard pressed to add them in the UDFA pool if they wanted to see what they can offer.

Seahawks also scored big in thier UDFA/tryout pool, getting a lot of potential and a lot of players that people would have been estatic about in rounds 5-7.

You my good man, is why I still love this place. THIS is precisely the post I was looking for when I asked for a clear and concise synopsis of our draft. Well done sir.
 

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I'd say B+, only thing that made me a bit disappointed was that the Hawks didn't draft any defensive backs. I mean, the Hawks usually always draft a db (no matter safety or corner) even if they have plenty already. You never know what goes down in the future.
 

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I give this draft an A.

I don't watch film and have never seem most of these guys play football so I don't know if any of them will work out, but as far as the business and strategy of the draft I give the Hawks an A.

John went into the draft with 9 picks, traded down, traded up twice and still came out with 10 players. The 1 future pick he traded away will be replaced by Bruce leaving.

They addressed the team's needs by adding bigger stronger (and hopefully meaner) talent to the trenches and options at RB. In total, drafted + UFA, this class will at least add real competition at several positions which will make this team better. I still wonder what's up the linebackers, but am happy where they are so far.
 

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