Bennett #59 of top 100

mort · Jun 1, 2016

I can't believe this is the first post on the topic... oh, the offseason....

Mike's got that swag, great soundbites in there as always

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-top10...Top-100-Players-of-2016-No-59-Michael-Bennett

Mistashoesta · Jun 1, 2016

Whoop there it is

kpak76 · Jun 2, 2016

How good would Avril and Bennett be if the had Cortez Kennedy on the line?

Throwdown · Jun 2, 2016

Lol he's a nut

Trrrroy · Jun 2, 2016

Pay that man.

seabowl · Jun 2, 2016

Trrrroy":ljt7j5oy said:
Pay that man.

Teddy KGB?

Anonymous · Jun 2, 2016

Trrrroy":3gkbi916 said:
Pay that man.

You gotta say it with the accent though.

"Peaaayyy da meeaaann hees moany".

HawkAroundTheClock · Jun 2, 2016

I look forward to shouting, "Bring the handsomeness!!!" after after big Bennett play this season.

BuZzB28 · Jun 2, 2016

Trrrroy":2c3xx3kq said:
Pay that man.

Agreed. We should sign him about 12 to 14 millions a year. He is a great team. He will be happy here.

Blitzer88 · Jun 2, 2016

Seems a little high to me.

gowazzu02 · Jun 2, 2016

Meh, love me some bennett, but theres no reason to pay him anything more this season.

HawkFan72 · Jun 2, 2016

BuZzB28":2priqcer said:
Trrrroy":2priqcer said:

Pay that man.

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Agreed. We should sign him about 12 to 14 millions a year. He is a great team. He will be happy here.

You are Michael Bennett, aren't you?

Jerhawk · Jun 2, 2016

Referring to himself in third person while being shirtless was... very fitting to his personality.

His spot on the list seems fair imo

kobebryant · Jun 2, 2016

gowazzu02":2cqg8u54 said:
Meh, love me some bennett, but theres no reason to pay him anything more this season.

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but he has significantly outperformed the value of his contract and his APY is ridiculously low compared to some far inferior DEs, though I do understand that contracts are often about timing as well.

But, Bennett led 4-3 DEs in total pressures last season, even while taking snaps at DT. He is just so much better than guys who make so much more money.

In terms of precedent, I don't think that giving Bennett a raise would be a bad precedent at all. Ruthlessly, you could leverage him as an example against Kam. If you show up to work and play great and like one of the top 3 dlineman in the NFL you get taken care of; if you skip work/have a down year like Kam, you get nothing. Kam's tail was firmly between his legs, poor precedent totally averted there.

gowazzu02 · Jun 2, 2016

kobebryant":1u6uvhla said:
gowazzu02":1u6uvhla said:

Meh, love me some bennett, but theres no reason to pay him anything more this season.

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I don't necessarily disagree with you, but he has significantly outperformed the value of his contract and his APY is ridiculously low compared to some far inferior DEs, though I do understand that contracts are often about timing as well.

But, Bennett led 4-3 DEs in total pressures last season, even while taking snaps at DT. He is just so much better than guys who make so much more money.

In terms of precedent, I don't think that giving Bennett a raise would be a bad precedent at all. Ruthlessly, you could leverage him as an example against Kam. If you show up to work and play great and like one of the top 3 dlineman in the NFL you get taken care of; if you skip work/have a down year like Kam, you get nothing. Kam's tail was firmly between his legs, poor precedent totally averted there.

Ok who are you going to cut then? The reality of salary cap football is you can't have the highest paid guy at every position. MB is compensated very well for his work. Truth is the nfl doesn't have a value chart for what he does. he doesn't put up the same sack numbers as the higher paid Dends. He brings alot to the table yes but the pass rushing market is set by sack numbers. And yes timing, he was a FA before the cap ballooned.

Largent80 · Jun 2, 2016

kpak76":2fnspa3f said:
How good would Avril and Bennett be if the had Cortez Kennedy on the line?

Maybe Reed will be that guy?

themunn · Jun 3, 2016

gowazzu02":1a11olrl said:
kobebryant":1a11olrl said:

gowazzu02":1a11olrl said:

Meh, love me some bennett, but theres no reason to pay him anything more this season.

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I don't necessarily disagree with you, but he has significantly outperformed the value of his contract and his APY is ridiculously low compared to some far inferior DEs, though I do understand that contracts are often about timing as well.

But, Bennett led 4-3 DEs in total pressures last season, even while taking snaps at DT. He is just so much better than guys who make so much more money.

In terms of precedent, I don't think that giving Bennett a raise would be a bad precedent at all. Ruthlessly, you could leverage him as an example against Kam. If you show up to work and play great and like one of the top 3 dlineman in the NFL you get taken care of; if you skip work/have a down year like Kam, you get nothing. Kam's tail was firmly between his legs, poor precedent totally averted there.

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Ok who are you going to cut then? The reality of salary cap football is you can't have the highest paid guy at every position. MB is compensated very well for his work. Truth is the nfl doesn't have a value chart for what he does. he doesn't put up the same sack numbers as the higher paid Dends. He brings alot to the table yes but the pass rushing market is set by sack numbers. And yes timing, he was a FA before the cap ballooned.

You find a way - Bennett is a significantly better player than when he signed his contract - you have someone on that very video saying it's tough to choose between JJ Watt and Michael Bennett!
Whether or not you necessarily agree with that comparison, it shows the level he's playing at - and also shows future free agents that maybe you take a little less than your believed market value to go to Seattle, because if you perform you will get PAID

kobebryant · Jun 3, 2016

themunn":11m4ybbw said:
gowazzu02":11m4ybbw said:

kobebryant":11m4ybbw said:

gowazzu02":11m4ybbw said:

Meh, love me some bennett, but theres no reason to pay him anything more this season.

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You find a way - Bennett is a significantly better player than when he signed his contract - you have someone on that very video saying it's tough to choose between JJ Watt and Michael Bennett!
Whether or not you necessarily agree with that comparison, it shows the level he's playing at - and also shows future free agents that maybe you take a little less than your believed market value to go to Seattle, because if you perform you will get PAID

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And it would reward balling out instead of holding out.

Basis4day · Jun 3, 2016

themunn":3vs9k7yr said:
You find a way - Bennett is a significantly better player than when he signed his contract - you have someone on that very video saying it's tough to choose between JJ Watt and Michael Bennett!
Whether or not you necessarily agree with that comparison, it shows the level he's playing at - and also shows future free agents that maybe you take a little less than your believed market value to go to Seattle, because if you perform you will get PAID

It's easy to say "you find a way", but that's unrealistic. The Hawks are limited in their cap space by quite a margin.
Now it's a bit unfair to ask a fan to create a cap scenario when we don't really know how much Bennett is actually asking for behind the scenes.

Shall we say 5 million more a year just for discussion sake? Can you try and give us a scenario where you free up that much and are comfortable with any cuts?

Personally i believe Bennett does deserve to be paid more, but i don't think the Hawks should pay him more.

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