Hype - Best 2 NFL teams play in Seattle on Sunday, per DVOA

seatownlowdown · Nov 15, 2016

From Football Outsiders:

which means that Sunday's Philadelphia at Seattle game presents us with the rare contest between the top two teams in DVOA. The Seahawks have something going for them that even the Eagles don't: after their offensive showing against the Patriots, they actually now kind of qualify as a balanced team. The Seahawks are 11th on offense, fifth on defense, and 13th on special teams. Only one other team ranks in the top half of the league in all three categories...

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-r ... oa-ratings

betta' get your popcorn ready

hawkfan68 · Nov 15, 2016

The eagles are in last place in their division.

seatownlowdown · Nov 15, 2016

hawkfan68":3hwf421q said:
The eagles are in last place in their division.

That division has been hands down stronger than ours thus far

knownone · Nov 15, 2016

As a longtime fan of both teams, I'm a little surprised the Eagles are that highly rated. They have a solid defense and massively inconsistent offense. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see a blowout for Seattle.

2_0_6 · Nov 15, 2016

Most seasoned veteran QB's have a difficult time playing here. A rookie coming in here with an average WR core and a sketchy run game might just pass out a bunch of game balls to our defense.

Bigpumpkin · Nov 15, 2016

Hawk_Nation":2bgzch9s said:
Most seasoned veteran QB's have a difficult time playing here. A rookie coming in here with an average WR core and a sketchy run game might just pass out a bunch of game balls to our defense.

I keep waiting for our "turnover" game....perhaps, this is it?

Overseasfan · Nov 16, 2016

Should be proof that DVOA is bs even if it favors us usually. No way the Eagles are the best team in football now in any possible way.

UK_Seahawk · Nov 16, 2016

I once googled what dvoa was but accidentally typed dvda instead. Note to others please do not replicate that mistake unless you want your eyes to water.

NINEster · Nov 16, 2016

Hawk_Nation":15rt9axd said:
Most seasoned veteran QB's have a difficult time playing here. A rookie coming in here with an average WR core and a sketchy run game might just pass out a bunch of game balls to our defense.

That could be true, but I think with that Eagles defense they can put Wentz in game manager mode and grind it to a 10-9 game trailing into the 4th.

NINEster · Nov 16, 2016

Overseasfan":29y41lgo said:
Should be proof that DVOA is bs even if it favors us usually. No way the Eagles are the best team in football now in any possible way.

The way they took down the Vikings was impressive.

Nobody expected that, and that surely contributed to the fall the Vikings have had since.

They are top 5 NFC team for sure.

Hass2Carlson · Nov 16, 2016

That is physically impossible...right?

mistaowen · Nov 16, 2016

Eagles special teams and defense have been carrying them thus far. Wentz looked decent in the first few wins then once teams had tape on him they spiraled a bit. Very check down heavy, lots of quick hitters to Sproles. LBs are gonna have to play well in coverage.

Jordan Matthews plays in the slot and can make some good plays but is soft as hell. I think one or two crossing routes met by Kam or Earl would have him slowing up the rest of the game. Ultimately, need to make sure ST doesn't give up big plays or let their defense score which they can do.

253hawk · Nov 16, 2016

hawkfan68":mzcxmekv said:
The eagles are in last place in their division.

And yet they're #1 in DVOA and the only team in the NFL to score at least 20 points in every game. Weird.

SoulfishHawk · Nov 16, 2016

Philly is a solid team, with a real good defense. And Sproles is a big time threat. Should be a great game.

MontanaHawk05 · Nov 16, 2016

knownone":1gs4i7kh said:
As a longtime fan of both teams, I'm a little surprised the Eagles are that highly rated. They have a solid defense and massively inconsistent offense. I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see a blowout for Seattle.

I sure as hell would be. The Seahawks have played only three other teams with a top-ten DVOA defense. They've scored 21 points in those three games combined.

The Eagles are a far better defense than any of those.

johnnyfever · Nov 16, 2016

Googled dvda, now I know what brian boitano would do. I didn't know Parker and Stone had a band, good accidental find.

Alexander · Nov 16, 2016

Overseasfan":3i9xohov said:
Should be proof that DVOA is bs even if it favors us usually. No way the Eagles are the best team in football now in any possible way.

They have the third highest point differential in the league (+66, versus +35 for the Hawks).

All of their losses have been by a touchdown or less.

Their defense held the Steelers to 3 (!!) points and the Falcons to 15 points.

Although he's struggled of late, Carson Wentz started out very well, prompting everyone to LOL at the Rams and Browns for not drafting him.

All of the opponents they've faced, except Chicago, currently have a winning record.

Their special teams have been incredible.

The Eagles are a VERY good team. You can quibble with whether or not they're "the best" team, but the fact that DVOA rates them very highly should not make you question DVOA, it should make you question your prejudice about the Eagles. They have good/great players at each level of the defense, and their DL in particular is no joke. This will NOT be an easy game. People should not be surprised if the Hawks' offensive revival hits a speed bump this week.

seatownlowdown · Nov 16, 2016

Alexander":1v5fejeq said:
Overseasfan":1v5fejeq said:

Should be proof that DVOA is bs even if it favors us usually. No way the Eagles are the best team in football now in any possible way.

Click to expand...

They have the third highest point differential in the league (+66, versus +35 for the Hawks).

All of their losses have been by a touchdown or less.

Their defense held the Steelers to 3 (!!) points and the Falcons to 15 points.

Although he's struggled of late, Carson Wentz started out very well, prompting everyone to LOL at the Rams and Browns for not drafting him.

All of the opponents they've faced, except Chicago, currently have a winning record.

Their special teams have been incredible.

The Eagles are a VERY good team. You can quibble with whether or not they're "the best" team, but the fact that DVOA rates them very highly should not make you question DVOA, it should make you question your prejudice about the Eagles. They have good/great players at each level of the defense, and their DL in particular is no joke. This will NOT be an easy game. People should not be surprised if the Hawks' offensive revival hits a speed bump this week.

all very good points.

eagles are a dangerous team who has played better than their w-l record would indicate. their dline vs our oline is something to keep an eye on this game. hopefully bevell isnt so quick to assume that our oline is "better" now after last games performance and will stick with quick strikes / blitz counters / running game / play-action. probably a low scoring affair, id say hawks win 17-13

HawKnPeppa · Nov 17, 2016

Hawk_Nation":2lzmjunp said:
Most seasoned veteran QB's have a difficult time playing here. A rookie coming in here with an average WR core and a sketchy run game might just pass out a bunch of game balls to our defense.

A very-good DL, but offense has very simple plays dialed up, and QB who's coached to 'take what it is given.' Sounds eerily similar to what the Rams do against us twice a year. I hate that crap, because Pete dumbs the offense down so he can have a puff-out-your-chest defensive battle. He needs to get more aggressive on offense against these low-production turds rather then leaving them within striking distance or slightly ahead, and counting on outlasting them.

xkj1985x · Nov 17, 2016

hawkfan68":6lqzoqsp said:
The eagles are in last place in their division.

With a 5-4 record. The NFC East is the second best division in the league behind only the AFC West.

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