Chalk Talk breaking down 1st Wilson pick

MontanaHawk05 · Nov 30, 2016

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Great read, as always. Multiple places to stick the blame.

getnasty · Dec 2, 2016

Not sure how I missed this earlier but great post and very informative. I'm surprised that Sowell is the guy who decides that there blocking down there? Maybe like Brock said thats just because Britts out. Russ knows with a free rusher he has to get rid of that ball quick and probably throws it trusting PRICH is gonna do his job. Also maybe a little insight on why Kearse is still on the field over Richardson?

McGruff · Dec 2, 2016

getnasty":2ynqv64v said:
Not sure how I missed this earlier but great post and very informative. I'm surprised that Sowell is the guy who decides that there blocking down there? Maybe like Brock said thats just because Britts out. Russ knows with a free rusher he has to get rid of that ball quick and probably throws it trusting PRICH is gonna do his job. Also maybe a little insight on why Kearse is still on the field over Richardson?

Fant occasionally getting beat physically is expected at this point.

But a 5 year veteran making mental errors presnap is inexcusable.

Not saying Gilliam is the answer. I don't think we have the answer for that position on our roster, but I sure hope they find one in the off season.

MontanaHawk05 · Dec 2, 2016

getnasty":xurpxov0 said:
Not sure how I missed this earlier but great post and very informative. I'm surprised that Sowell is the guy who decides that there blocking down there? Maybe like Brock said thats just because Britts out. Russ knows with a free rusher he has to get rid of that ball quick and probably throws it trusting PRICH is gonna do his job. Also maybe a little insight on why Kearse is still on the field over Richardson?

Saw a very similar whiff by Minnesota's right tackle last night and it got Bradford nailed. It happens. Problem is, it was happening in multiple places along the line at too high a frequency during that game.

Bill Assumpcao · Dec 2, 2016

Dayum! Brock does that well. :2thumbs:

Go Hawks,
BillA

HawKnPeppa · Dec 2, 2016

Coaches say Hunt had a good game, but they have to be using fuzzy math. Good game FOR A ROOK is more like it. The enture line seemed a tick slow. That normally happens when they are not targeted properly pre-snap.

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Smellyman · Dec 2, 2016

For his first game ever Hunt was better than Sowell, Gilliam, Ifedi and Fant.

But Hunt now has the Seahawk message board theme of being an awful player. Takes years to overcome the message board group think.

scutterhawk · Dec 2, 2016

Smellyman":17xwhzr3 said:
For his first game ever Hunt was better than Sowell, Gilliam, Ifedi and Fant.

But Hunt now has the Seahawk message board theme of being an awful player. Takes years to overcome the message board group think.

Him being better than the others, yet deficient in calling line protection, shifting the brunt of misfires across the entire line...Guess now we all know how important Justin Britt is to the success of our O-Line...Britt may only be getting a second or two more time for Russ, assignment correct calls from the Center is still a must, especially with lack of experience on this line.
Does Tampa all of the sudden have several All Pro Defenders?, I don't think so.
Looking at the success over the last month, and how it all seemed to sour up in a game when Britt isn't in there speaks volumes.....Tampa Bay took advantage of the confusion, IMHO.

Smellyman · Dec 2, 2016

scutterhawk":3ea2pg12 said:
Smellyman":3ea2pg12 said:

For his first game ever Hunt was better than Sowell, Gilliam, Ifedi and Fant.

But Hunt now has the Seahawk message board theme of being an awful player. Takes years to overcome the message board group think.

Click to expand...

Him being better than the others, yet deficient in calling line protection, shifting the brunt of misfires across the entire line...Guess now we all know how important Justin Britt is to the success of our O-Line...Britt may only be getting a second or two more time for Russ, assignment correct calls from the Center is still a must, especially with lack of experience on this line.
Does Tampa all of the sudden have several All Pro Defenders?, I don't think so.
Looking at the success over the last month, and how it all seemed to sour up in a game when Britt isn't in there speaks volumes.....Tampa Bay took advantage of the confusion, IMHO.

Him being better as a rook in first start is telling. You're right.

Also, I though RW has responsibility of line calls now?

Yes Fant getting beat constantly one on one, Ifedi getting beat one on one and Sowell/Gilliam getting beat one on one is all on Hunt.

Bigpumpkin · Dec 2, 2016

Huard was "right on" with his term "Russell sandwich". It was happening all afternoon.

NFSeahawks · Dec 2, 2016

McGruff":1ggdazuz said:
getnasty":1ggdazuz said:

Not sure how I missed this earlier but great post and very informative. I'm surprised that Sowell is the guy who decides that there blocking down there? Maybe like Brock said thats just because Britts out. Russ knows with a free rusher he has to get rid of that ball quick and probably throws it trusting PRICH is gonna do his job. Also maybe a little insight on why Kearse is still on the field over Richardson?

Click to expand...

Fant occasionally getting beat physically is expected at this point.

But a 5 year veteran making mental errors presnap is inexcusable.

Not saying Gilliam is the answer. I don't think we have the answer for that position on our roster, but I sure hope they find one in the off season.

Interesting break down from Brock.

I agree with your post, McGruff sadly. I do think Britt makes the line much better but just can't understand why we didn't address an obvious need at tackle. Perhaps Pete thought Gilliam would develop better than he has.

PlinytheCenter · Dec 3, 2016

Why do you want to relive that dumpster-fire of a game? On to the Panthers!

McGruff · Dec 3, 2016

NFSeahawks628":2pdz3xj5 said:
McGruff":2pdz3xj5 said:

getnasty":2pdz3xj5 said:

Not sure how I missed this earlier but great post and very informative. I'm surprised that Sowell is the guy who decides that there blocking down there? Maybe like Brock said thats just because Britts out. Russ knows with a free rusher he has to get rid of that ball quick and probably throws it trusting PRICH is gonna do his job. Also maybe a little insight on why Kearse is still on the field over Richardson?

Click to expand...

Fant occasionally getting beat physically is expected at this point.

But a 5 year veteran making mental errors presnap is inexcusable.

Not saying Gilliam is the answer. I don't think we have the answer for that position on our roster, but I sure hope they find one in the off season.

Click to expand...

Interesting break down from Brock.

I agree with your post, McGruff sadly. I do think Britt makes the line much better but just can't understand why we didn't address an obvious need at tackle. Perhaps Pete thought Gilliam would develop better than he has.

I think Pete and cable made two critical evaluation errors.

First, they thought Gilliam would make a smooth transition the LT. In fairness, many of us thought the same thing. His athletic ability and technique seemed like an ideal fit. He didn't step into those shoes though.

Second, they thought Webb would provide veteran stability at RT. Turned out he was an tub of goo. This one is the one that is inexcusable.

MontanaHawk05 · Dec 3, 2016

Smellyman":1zh8unz3 said:
scutterhawk":1zh8unz3 said:

Smellyman":1zh8unz3 said:

For his first game ever Hunt was better than Sowell, Gilliam, Ifedi and Fant.

But Hunt now has the Seahawk message board theme of being an awful player. Takes years to overcome the message board group think.

Click to expand...

Him being better than the others, yet deficient in calling line protection, shifting the brunt of misfires across the entire line...Guess now we all know how important Justin Britt is to the success of our O-Line...Britt may only be getting a second or two more time for Russ, assignment correct calls from the Center is still a must, especially with lack of experience on this line.
Does Tampa all of the sudden have several All Pro Defenders?, I don't think so.
Looking at the success over the last month, and how it all seemed to sour up in a game when Britt isn't in there speaks volumes.....Tampa Bay took advantage of the confusion, IMHO.

Click to expand...

Him being better as a rook in first start is telling. You're right.

Also, I though RW has responsibility of line calls now?

It's never just one guy. The QB and center share the calls.

While Hunt may have held up physically, not being able to prepare the interior OL for the relentless blitzes, stunts, and twists the Bucs threw at them could very well be on Hunt's inexperience. I think you'll see a marked improvement tomorrow with Britt back in.

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