Why the double standard? Fire Pete....

TDOTSEAHAWK":218k2qc6 said:

So the defense loses one player, and no one places blame on the coordinators or Pete Carroll for the atrocious defensive performances but says its all because Earl is gone.

The offense doesn't have 4 players but somehow it's the coordinator who is supposed to fix this.

Bottom line, when you don't have the players, its is hard to execute any game plan no matter how good of a coordinator you are.

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flmmkrz":i0hgmvq8 said:

TDOTSEAHAWK":i0hgmvq8 said:

So the defense loses one player, and no one places blame on the coordinators or Pete Carroll for the atrocious defensive performances but says its all because Earl is gone.

The offense doesn't have 4 players but somehow it's the coordinator who is supposed to fix this.

Bottom line, when you don't have the players, its is hard to execute any game plan no matter how good of a coordinator you are.

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Bro you don't wanna go there, I'll ruin your posting career, I'll revoke your .net posting privileges, you won't start a thread in seattle again

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TDOTSEAHAWK":yvfnw4tm said:

So the defense loses one player, and no one places blame on the coordinators or Pete Carroll for the atrocious defensive performances but says its all because Earl is gone.

The offense doesn't have 4 players but somehow it's the coordinator who is supposed to fix this.

Bottom line, when you don't have the players, its is hard to execute any game plan no matter how good of a coordinator you are.

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TDOTSEAHAWK":3b81z22k said:

So the defense loses one player, and no one places blame on the coordinators or Pete Carroll for the atrocious defensive performances but says its all because Earl is gone.

The offense doesn't have 4 players but somehow it's the coordinator who is supposed to fix this.

Bottom line, when you don't have the players, its is hard to execute any game plan no matter how good of a coordinator you are.

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Vancanhawksfan":2sl70yep said:

TDOTSEAHAWK":2sl70yep said:

So the defense loses one player, and no one places blame on the coordinators or Pete Carroll for the atrocious defensive performances but says its all because Earl is gone.

The offense doesn't have 4 players but somehow it's the coordinator who is supposed to fix this.

Bottom line, when you don't have the players, its is hard to execute any game plan no matter how good of a coordinator you are.

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In seven seasons under Pete Carroll:

1. Have .635 win percentage in regular season
2. qualify for playoffs 6 times
3. win division title 4 times
4. Have .667 win percentage in playoffs (with this playoff season still to come)
5. win NFC Championship 2 times (with this playoff season still to come)
6. win one super bowl Championship - and within a hair of a second (with this playoff season still to come)

Only the New England Patriots, Green Bay Packers and Denver Broncos can compare over the past seven seasons in both regular and playoff results. And you can say that the Seahawks compare quite evenly or a hair better than all of them considering how close they were to winning that second championship. If they won that they would undoubtedly be the best team in the NFL during Pete's tenure here.

Maybe you think that a team is supposed to roll through and win Super Bowls multiple times?!?! I've got news for you - the only team that has won the Super Bowl twice in the last 10 years is the NY Giants who have won it twice. Its not that easy bro.

(The Giants had a 10-6 and 9-7 regular season record those years - the Seahawks this season are 10-5-1 which apparently disappoints you. And in those ten years, other than their Super Bowl runs, the Giants had only played - and lost - in one other playoff game).


So you want to fire Pete huh? Who on god's green earth is out there that has a better track record than him that you want to replace him with?

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Vancanhawksfan":3v9650jc said:

TDOTSEAHAWK":3v9650jc said:

So the defense loses one player, and no one places blame on the coordinators or Pete Carroll for the atrocious defensive performances but says its all because Earl is gone.

The offense doesn't have 4 players but somehow it's the coordinator who is supposed to fix this.

Bottom line, when you don't have the players, its is hard to execute any game plan no matter how good of a coordinator you are.

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In seven seasons under Pete Carroll:

1. Have .635 win percentage in regular season
2. qualify for playoffs 6 times
3. win division title 4 times
4. Have .667 win percentage in playoffs (with this playoff season still to come)
5. win NFC Championship 2 times (with this playoff season still to come)
6. win one super bowl Championship - and within a hair of a second (with this playoff season still to come)

Only the New England Patriots, Green Bay Packers and Denver Broncos can compare over the past seven seasons in both regular and playoff results. And you can say that the Seahawks compare quite evenly or a hair better than all of them considering how close they were to winning that second championship. If they won that they would undoubtedly be the best team in the NFL during Pete's tenure here.

Maybe you think that a team is supposed to roll through and win Super Bowls multiple times?!?! I've got news for you - the only team that has won the Super Bowl twice in the last 10 years is the NY Giants who have won it twice. Its not that easy bro.

(The Giants had a 10-6 and 9-7 regular season record those years - the Seahawks this season are 10-5-1 which apparently disappoints you. And in those ten years, other than their Super Bowl runs, the Giants had only played - and lost - in one other playoff game).


So you want to fire Pete huh? Who on god's green earth is out there that has a better track record than him that you want to replace him with?

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Siouxhawk":1cganzf5 said:

Vancanhawksfan":1cganzf5 said:

TDOTSEAHAWK":1cganzf5 said:

So the defense loses one player, and no one places blame on the coordinators or Pete Carroll for the atrocious defensive performances but says its all because Earl is gone.

The offense doesn't have 4 players but somehow it's the coordinator who is supposed to fix this.

Bottom line, when you don't have the players, its is hard to execute any game plan no matter how good of a coordinator you are.

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In seven seasons under Pete Carroll:

1. Have .635 win percentage in regular season
2. qualify for playoffs 6 times
3. win division title 4 times
4. Have .667 win percentage in playoffs (with this playoff season still to come)
5. win NFC Championship 2 times (with this playoff season still to come)
6. win one super bowl Championship - and within a hair of a second (with this playoff season still to come)

Only the New England Patriots, Green Bay Packers and Denver Broncos can compare over the past seven seasons in both regular and playoff results. And you can say that the Seahawks compare quite evenly or a hair better than all of them considering how close they were to winning that second championship. If they won that they would undoubtedly be the best team in the NFL during Pete's tenure here.

Maybe you think that a team is supposed to roll through and win Super Bowls multiple times?!?! I've got news for you - the only team that has won the Super Bowl twice in the last 10 years is the NY Giants who have won it twice. Its not that easy bro.

(The Giants had a 10-6 and 9-7 regular season record those years - the Seahawks this season are 10-5-1 which apparently disappoints you. And in those ten years, other than their Super Bowl runs, the Giants had only played - and lost - in one other playoff game).


So you want to fire Pete huh? Who on god's green earth is out there that has a better track record than him that you want to replace him with?

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And this impressive resume translates to Bevell as well. Don't forget that.
For the record, can't any of you figure out that the OP is being facetious?

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Vancanhawksfan":6l26jdf2 said:

Siouxhawk":6l26jdf2 said:

Vancanhawksfan":6l26jdf2 said:

TDOTSEAHAWK":6l26jdf2 said:

So the defense loses one player, and no one places blame on the coordinators or Pete Carroll for the atrocious defensive performances but says its all because Earl is gone.

The offense doesn't have 4 players but somehow it's the coordinator who is supposed to fix this.

Bottom line, when you don't have the players, its is hard to execute any game plan no matter how good of a coordinator you are.

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In seven seasons under Pete Carroll:

1. Have .635 win percentage in regular season
2. qualify for playoffs 6 times
3. win division title 4 times
4. Have .667 win percentage in playoffs (with this playoff season still to come)
5. win NFC Championship 2 times (with this playoff season still to come)
6. win one super bowl Championship - and within a hair of a second (with this playoff season still to come)

Only the New England Patriots, Green Bay Packers and Denver Broncos can compare over the past seven seasons in both regular and playoff results. And you can say that the Seahawks compare quite evenly or a hair better than all of them considering how close they were to winning that second championship. If they won that they would undoubtedly be the best team in the NFL during Pete's tenure here.

Maybe you think that a team is supposed to roll through and win Super Bowls multiple times?!?! I've got news for you - the only team that has won the Super Bowl twice in the last 10 years is the NY Giants who have won it twice. Its not that easy bro.

(The Giants had a 10-6 and 9-7 regular season record those years - the Seahawks this season are 10-5-1 which apparently disappoints you. And in those ten years, other than their Super Bowl runs, the Giants had only played - and lost - in one other playoff game).


So you want to fire Pete huh? Who on god's green earth is out there that has a better track record than him that you want to replace him with?

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And this impressive resume translates to Bevell as well. Don't forget that.
For the record, can't any of you figure out that the OP is being facetious?

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I've been a defender of Bevell and do apply this line of thinking to Bevell as well.

If the OP was being facetious then I guess he got me. The headline to this post was about Carroll though, and the problem is that there are Hawks fans out there that are questioning whether the Seahawks should retain him or not now which gets my ire up.

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Siouxhawk":njkyqhmc said:

And this impressive resume translates to Bevell as well. Don't forget that.
For the record, can't any of you figure out that the OP is being facetious?

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seahawkfreak":10wk5e6a said:

Siouxhawk":10wk5e6a said:

And this impressive resume translates to Bevell as well. Don't forget that.
For the record, can't any of you figure out that the OP is being facetious?

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Huh, seemed pretty down to earth and serious to me. Guess I'm losing my sense of humor or was never funny to begin with. Wait, are you being facetious?

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Sgt. Largent":2fithq4b said:

I've said this 1,000 times on here.

If you hate Bevell and the way the offense is constructed, schemed and run................then you hate Pete. Pete has controlled from day 1 the way he wants everything run on both sides of the ball.

He wants a nasty fast and physical defense, thus 70% of the cap dedicated to that side of the ball. And he wants a ball control emphasis on a punishing run game to open up play action for 3-4 explosive plays a game.

Neither of these plans has worked very well the past two years. The defense isn't the dominant defense anymore that it needs to be to in order to the offense to play the safe pound the rock offense................and the offense isn't anywhere near where it needs to be because Pete and John took risks all along the O-line expecting Russell to continue to make up for those glaring deficiencies, nor has Rawls stayed healthy to pick up where Marshawn left off.

ALL these issues are on Pete and John for how this team was built. Obviously injuries have played a part, but the depth isn't there either like it's been in the past for the next man up to fill in and play well. ALSO on John and Pete.

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