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Cable threw a change up.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:26 am
  • With our Offensive Line being large and very athletic, some of the more studied posters here have been clamoring for a change in run blocking scheme. The Zone blocking system is great for smaller, quicker OLmen. It gives them an advantage on larger DL's and also gets the DL running side to side a lot, thus wearing them down later in the game. Also, combo blocks help control the line of scrimmage while a guy peels off and grabs a LBer.

    Problem this year seems to be that the ZBS we're running is too complicated for our younger guys. We're not getting beat physically, but mentally. It's blown assignments not physical mismatches that have caused our woes.

    Well, Cable must have heard us. I saw a lot more iso and power run blocking this last game. On Rawls TD in particular, you saw Ifedi just walling his guy off and Britt making a really nifty seal on the NT, sealing him inside. Glowinski had at least 3 blocks where he just manned up and put his guy on skates, sometimes for 4 or 5 yards.

    I'd like to see this going forward. Atlanta has a smallish DL that isn't stout at the point of attack. We can (and should) physically beat them, not let them use speed to penetrate gaps caused by missed assignments and create issues.

    So the question would be: what took so long to make the adjustment? Was the coaching staff just waiting for the playoffs ? if so, that's seriously wicked on Pete's part. Think about this from Atlanta's DC's viewpoint: you now have a game on tape that has a bunch of ZBS stuff on it, and we just iso'd up on Detroit and gave you a bunch of things you haven't seen out of us.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:31 am
  • Noticeable change in blocking this weekend. I thought they did the exact same thing in the Cards game a couple weeks ago after halftime. Looked completely different...and more importantly effective!
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:31 am
  • Pete said in his post game presser there were no adjustments to their gameplanning or schemes, the lineman just finally put a good game together.

    So Cable didn't throw a change up, our lineman just had a really good game.........and Rawls as well of course.

    Now was this a product of the linemen? Or was this a product of Detroit not having a very good defense. IMO it's a mixture of both, but give the line credit, they had their best game of the year.

    Also as many of us pointed out, NONE of the remaining teams in the playoffs from the NFC have dominant front 7's, so this is something our line should be able to sustain in Atlanta and hopefully the next week as well.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:38 am
  • I've been critical of Cable but I have to give him credit because it was brilliant to switch it up a little. It really helps a guy like Ifedi and allows him to play to his strength, which ironically is strength.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:44 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:Pete said in his post game presser there were no adjustments to their gameplanning or schemes, the lineman just finally put a good game together.

    So Cable didn't throw a change up, our lineman just had a really good game.........and Rawls as well of course.

    Now was this a product of the linemen? Or was this a product of Detroit not having a very good defense. IMO it's a mixture of both, but give the line credit, they had their best game of the year.

    Also as many of us pointed out, NONE of the remaining teams in the playoffs from the NFC have dominant front 7's, so this is something our line should be able to sustain in Atlanta and hopefully the next week as well.


    So he's being sneaky Pete and I love it. Answers that question.

    He can deny it all he wants, the stuff I saw was iso and power. Evidently, FG's just put out an article saying the same thing...with a former NFL Tackle verifying it as well.

    Like coorslighthawk said a couple posts up, there have been a few elements and plays before, but I noticed a larger shift this game. It's brilliant either way. If the OL is able to go with both, you could have ZBS stretch runs on one play, then line up and have Ifedi, Glowinski and Britt fire off the ball into their guys the next. It's really hard to scout that and play against it, because there won't be any formation "tells" to let you know how your OL mirror is going to block you.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:45 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:Pete said in his post game presser there were no adjustments to their gameplanning or schemes, the lineman just finally put a good game together.

    So Cable didn't throw a change up, our lineman just had a really good game.........and Rawls as well of course.

    Now was this a product of the linemen? Or was this a product of Detroit not having a very good defense. IMO it's a mixture of both, but give the line credit, they had their best game of the year.

    Also as many of us pointed out, NONE of the remaining teams in the playoffs from the NFC have dominant front 7's, so this is something our line should be able to sustain in Atlanta and hopefully the next week as well.



    Let's see if they can put the same type of effort together vs a fairly similar poor defense, the big diff is we're on the road.

    I can't help but think about an adage from the NBA. Your roll players can and usually do play much better at home, but when out on the road you need your super stars to take over.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 8:55 am
  • Hawks46 wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:Pete said in his post game presser there were no adjustments to their gameplanning or schemes, the lineman just finally put a good game together.

    So Cable didn't throw a change up, our lineman just had a really good game.........and Rawls as well of course.

    Now was this a product of the linemen? Or was this a product of Detroit not having a very good defense. IMO it's a mixture of both, but give the line credit, they had their best game of the year.

    Also as many of us pointed out, NONE of the remaining teams in the playoffs from the NFC have dominant front 7's, so this is something our line should be able to sustain in Atlanta and hopefully the next week as well.


    So he's being sneaky Pete and I love it. Answers that question.

    He can deny it all he wants, the stuff I saw was iso and power. Evidently, FG's just put out an article saying the same thing...with a former NFL Tackle verifying it as well.

    Like coorslighthawk said a couple posts up, there have been a few elements and plays before, but I noticed a larger shift this game. It's brilliant either way. If the OL is able to go with both, you could have ZBS stretch runs on one play, then line up and have Ifedi, Glowinski and Britt fire off the ball into their guys the next. It's really hard to scout that and play against it, because there won't be any formation "tells" to let you know how your OL mirror is going to block you.


    Maybe, I'm not some sort of film nerd that breaks down every run play looking for drastic changes to blocking schemes and playcalling.


    Now what I did see was finally a CONCERTED effort to run the damn ball, and IMO they could have run it even more. After Rawls was ripping off 5-10 yards a carry in the 1st half I was screaming at the TV to stop trying to throw it and just ram it down the Lion's throat cause they couldn't stop it.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:05 am
  • I think Pete is being smart and not admitting to much. I'm not a line expert either but a guy on twitter(I know) broke it down and was convinced they did do things a little differently and limited lateral movement and some of the ZBS stuff that we normally do.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:12 am
  • Certainly we've been sprinkling in more man/power plays.

    We do still do the ZBS thing. But there are a few wrinkles I'm seeing.

    1. Reece is a vastly improved FB lead option.

    While I loved Truck-a-foo, the reality was that despite that size, he really didn't block well on the move, and he didn't really do a good job of identifying his blocks and hitting them. Reece is just nailing the right guys, and doing it a lot quicker and harder. He's executing his blocks in the hole on the plus side of the LOS. If you can rewatch the game, just look at the number of plays Reece is on. And watch him specifically. He is a massive upgrade execution wise. You can easily see that the FB is now part of the main plan with Reece in the game -- where it was almost completely abandoned the last year.

    2. The Zone stretch run is not getting called as much.

    It was our staple run for years. Although recall that it took some time for Lynch to finally master reading that. I don't think Rawls really is adept at reading that play quite yet. He's a pretty frantic runner and doesn't yet appear to have the patience required to execute it properly.

    3. OL just getting organically better

    It's been exceptionally difficult to plot the progress on this OL. I think most fans would be comfortable with the assessment that they've been inconsistent. Sometimes good, other times a dumpster fire. It has seemed however that our instances of dumpster fire just happen to coincide with facing really good defensive lines. It's a shame we face the Rams and Cardinals twice a year in high leverage/important contests.

    As inconsistent as this OL is, I actually like how they match up against average or worse DLs. I'm still really hopeful that this OL as is shows what should be the expected level of improvement with a second training camp.

    I think overall the impression is that the OL takes one step forward and one step back on a week to week basis. But I do think that not enough credit is bestowed on the talent of the opposition. And that when you look at the struggles -- I think the case can be made that it's opponent talent driven. I do still expect that delta in quality to narrow next year.

    I don't know that it's taken this long. Since we've been remarking on the increased use of power blocking plays over the course of the season. Even before Fant was installed at LT.

    I do have to wonder though, if we even return to the zone stretch bread and butter that we used with Lynch. This OL seems to be well suited for the 'power' runs that were Marshawn's stated favorite plays. Seems this OL is naturally inclined to do well with just blowing guys out of the hole in the A and B gaps. Adding Reece seems to have kind of put the cherry on top of that run play, getting better ability to get past the linebackers.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:12 am
  • Good post!
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:19 am
  • Its crystal clear they changed up something's because it worked I said that they should go to a more power scheme to suit our lineman
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:58 am
  • austinslater25 wrote:Good post!

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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:06 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:Pete said in his post game presser there were no adjustments to their gameplanning or schemes, the lineman just finally put a good game together.


    And he said last year that there were no real changes to the passing game, just players executing better. Wasn't true.. There were a bunch of spread concepts and timing changes that weren't there before, and the offense looked completely different as a result.

    Pete's an expert BSer. He believes in empowering and tooting his players, so he wouldn't want to talk too much about scheme being the pivot of the offense. But there were changes last year, and there were changes last week. Anyone with an eye for football can see that.

    And as OP said, yep, it was fun watching Glowinski in particular. He looked positively Walter Jones-like on a couple of Rawls' longer runs.

    Also agree on Reece. He played a big role out of the I-formation - when he hits a linebacker, that linebacker is done for the play. I haven't seen that on this team in years. If he's out next week, it will be a major loss.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:51 am
  • I've seen no changes to the ZBS at all. The OL are still firing off at an angle and trying to generate movement in that fashion. What I am seeing is more I form and heavy fronts on average like we used to do in 2013 when we had Mike Rob. Reece has been key in this. From 2014 on we've seen more and more 3 WR sets up until we got Reece. I think we did see the height of 3 WR sets last year even with Tuku playing both FB and move TE.

    ZBS hasn't changed. The changes are in formation mostly and I'm a big fan of it. I don't like pussyfoot pass first spread offenses as your base offense and especially not in the playoffs. It fails every time unless you have Tom Brady OR the OL and Faulk that the greatest show on turf had. There ar3 a couple of exceptions, but being passive in the playoffs generally means most teams will lose at least at some point during the playoff run. Someone will punch you in th3 mouth and you'll lose.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:43 pm
  • Good post Attyla.

    Although I'm inclined to disagree with your 3rd point, the one thing I'd say is that overall, our OL has pass protected much better than they did last year (it doesn't seem like it, but the numbers support it...the improvement the last half of the year was scheme based as Montana mentioned). This is just more of an impression and the "eyeball" test, but it seems like the OL hasn't gotten better per assignments and when we give guys like Ifedi a target and a "go get em boy!" he identifies and blows them up.

    ZBS has it's strong points, but when you get a physically talented enough OL, power and iso are typically better. As Seahawks fans we should agree with this after watching Holmgren's teams in the early and mid 2000's. It also doesn't make any sense: if you have a dominant OLman, why tell him to go fall down on the ground and hopefully take a guy down with him, instead of staying on his feet, mauling the guy, and physically dominating him ? (also the mental aspect of just getting physically whooped can't be understated either....look at the 4th quarter of the Lions game as the most recent example).

    Look at Britt, Glowinski and Ifedi; the meat of our line and all SPARQ'd up athletes that are physically talented and strong as hell. In Britt's and Ifedi's case, they're athletic enough to play on the edge. Pete and John specialize in finding special athletes and good ways to use them, not just guys for their system. We've done that (athletically) on the OL and I'm happy that they've finally gone in the direction of the personnel's strengths.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Mon Jan 09, 2017 12:52 pm
  • A la Lynch and Mike Rob. "Now I got my eyes back" - Lynch referring to Mike Rob

    Carroll praised the play of Reece, who joined the team last month following an eight-year career in Oakland.
    “He’s really a consistent player, he’s smart, and he has learned over the years how things fit,” Carroll said. “One of the big deals about the fullback position is fitting right. The fullback actually runs the play for the tailback and the tailback reads off of the fullback when he’s leading him. So whatever cuts he makes, the tailback follows, then creates from there. Marcel has good instincts, so he fits things up really nicely. The old-style fullback of just bloodying the guy’s nose, that’s part of it, but that’s not the part of it’s that most important. We need to fit on the correct guy so we’ve covered up the right defender, then the running back takes off from there.
    “He’s a good pass catcher, he moves well, he has good instincts about the passing game, he has a good sense for it. He has a little spark out there, and there are special things we can do with him because Tom (Cable) had him in his background, and they’ve got some familiarity we can draw from. He has jumped in to help us right away.”
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:20 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    Hawks46 wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:Pete said in his post game presser there were no adjustments to their gameplanning or schemes, the lineman just finally put a good game together.

    So Cable didn't throw a change up, our lineman just had a really good game.........and Rawls as well of course.

    Now was this a product of the linemen? Or was this a product of Detroit not having a very good defense. IMO it's a mixture of both, but give the line credit, they had their best game of the year.

    Also as many of us pointed out, NONE of the remaining teams in the playoffs from the NFC have dominant front 7's, so this is something our line should be able to sustain in Atlanta and hopefully the next week as well.


    So he's being sneaky Pete and I love it. Answers that question.

    He can deny it all he wants, the stuff I saw was iso and power. Evidently, FG's just put out an article saying the same thing...with a former NFL Tackle verifying it as well.

    Like coorslighthawk said a couple posts up, there have been a few elements and plays before, but I noticed a larger shift this game. It's brilliant either way. If the OL is able to go with both, you could have ZBS stretch runs on one play, then line up and have Ifedi, Glowinski and Britt fire off the ball into their guys the next. It's really hard to scout that and play against it, because there won't be any formation "tells" to let you know how your OL mirror is going to block you.


    Maybe, I'm not some sort of film nerd that breaks down every run play looking for drastic changes to blocking schemes and playcalling.


    Now what I did see was finally a CONCERTED effort to run the damn ball, and IMO they could have run it even more. After Rawls was ripping off 5-10 yards a carry in the 1st half I was screaming at the TV to stop trying to throw it and just ram it down the Lion's throat cause they couldn't stop it.


    Whats with you?

    We get it, you don't think they did anything different and somehow for some reason just started playing well.

    However as many have pointed out, that isn't the case.

    If people saw power and iso, thats what they saw, you yourself said youre not a film nerd that breaks down every play.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Tue Jan 10, 2017 3:21 am
  • Thanks for your post Hawks46 its good to see some quality content reads.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:12 am
  • Hawks46 wrote:With our Offensive Line being large and very athletic, some of the more studied posters here have been clamoring for a change in run blocking scheme. The Zone blocking system is great for smaller, quicker OLmen. It gives them an advantage on larger DL's and also gets the DL running side to side a lot, thus wearing them down later in the game. Also, combo blocks help control the line of scrimmage while a guy peels off and grabs a LBer.

    Problem this year seems to be that the ZBS we're running is too complicated for our younger guys. We're not getting beat physically, but mentally. It's blown assignments not physical mismatches that have caused our woes.

    Well, Cable must have heard us. I saw a lot more iso and power run blocking this last game. On Rawls TD in particular, you saw Ifedi just walling his guy off and Britt making a really nifty seal on the NT, sealing him inside. Glowinski had at least 3 blocks where he just manned up and put his guy on skates, sometimes for 4 or 5 yards.

    I'd like to see this going forward. Atlanta has a smallish DL that isn't stout at the point of attack. We can (and should) physically beat them, not let them use speed to penetrate gaps caused by missed assignments and create issues.

    So the question would be: what took so long to make the adjustment? Was the coaching staff just waiting for the playoffs ? if so, that's seriously wicked on Pete's part. Think about this from Atlanta's DC's viewpoint: you now have a game on tape that has a bunch of ZBS stuff on it, and we just iso'd up on Detroit and gave you a bunch of things you haven't seen out of us.


    Very good observations. Was working, missed the game, and DVR didn't record, so I haven't watched it. If they did change schemes, I'm happy to hear it worked. My guess is that because it's the playoffs, they had to do something. I doubt they held it in their back pockets for now.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:25 am
  • Brock was saying yesterday that for the most part things were the same but that they definitely threw some wrinkle in and featured a two back set a lot more then they have this year. I want to say he said they and 33 plays out of a 2 back look compared to 116 the rest of the year combine.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:16 am
  • WHATEVER they did, they need to stick with it. Football is actually a simple game. You run what works. Again and again and again until your opponent stops it. It doesn't matter if they know what's coming if they can't stop it. And, there is NOTHING more debilitating to a defense than being unable to stop the run.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:56 am
  • Starting to think the change might be exaggerated. What it comes down to is this: a few power and iso concepts thrown in here and there (and Seattle got a high rate of success with them), but largely the same system.

    Still, it makes things interesting for Dan Quinn's gameplanning, given that our linemen and Rawls took well to the wrinkles and thus will give Cable and Bevell more flexibility in regards to playcalling. Marcel Reece's status for Saturday will be enormous.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:57 am
  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:Starting to think the change might be exaggerated. What it comes down to is this: a few power and iso concepts thrown in here and there (and Seattle got a high rate of success with them), but largely the same system.

    Still, it makes things interesting for Dan Quinn's gameplanning, given that our linemen and Rawls took well to the wrinkles and thus will give Cable and Bevell more flexibility in regards to playcalling. Marcel Reece's status for Saturday will be enormous.


    Yep. Fieldgulls broke it down..............definitely some subtle changes, but not a wholesale scheme change like some on this thread are claiming.

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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Tue Jan 10, 2017 8:57 am
  • I thought it was pretty obvious, they switched to more combo blocking. Identify the man in front of you, and take him out.

    Before it was " miss the guy directly in front of you on the way to the 2nd level where you whiff on that guy too." It was absolute bullshit.

    RBs & Russell were getting hot in the backfield by a DT/DE that no one blocked. I thought it was excruciatingly obvious.

    Cable was asking "n00bz" to do too much! He finally wised up, and simplified the scheme.

    "You two guys block the guy directly in front of you, and you two guys block the guy directly in front of you." "Fant, do your best to slow down your guy."

    Simple, at did it take 16 games to figure that out? Because Cable thinks he's a really smart guy and that he can teach anyone. Dear Tom Cable, there is an old saying "You must learn how to walk before you can run."

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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Tue Jan 10, 2017 4:03 pm
  • I dunno... it's almost like they did more-or-less what they normally try to do, but experienced more success in part because they were facing the 32nd ranked defensive DVOA Lions at home. :229031_shrug:

    The pathological need of many here to search out a (perceived) difference in playcalling/strategy/personnel/player health/etc and attribute it as the sole, direct cause every time the offense/defense suddenly performs well is embarrassing.

    At least it hasn't devolved into another preposterous "maybe we were saving it for the playoffs all along, and we've actually been sandbagging all season!" wishful thinking thread... yet.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:21 pm
  • There are too many things about correlation and causation than I care to get into again in this thread. I see the same things I've seen from this run game for a very long time. Cable even talks about the same thing I did with Mike Rob in this next vid. The fact that the result was different doesn't mean something different was done based on some very rudimentary break downs.

    It just doesn't.

    This isn't Madden. Players can play like crap one week, as individuals or as a group, and play great the next. You don't base humans off of static Madden ratings. Go out and play some football and see for yourselves.

    http://www.seahawks.com/video/2017/01/1 ... conference

    In fact, this is the first week in the year that Rawls hasn't played like peanut poop. It hasn't ALL been the OL. It never was...and the same applies to sacks in the passing game.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:24 pm
  • Krieg's list wrote:I dunno... it's almost like they did more-or-less what they normally try to do, but experienced more success in part because they were facing the 32nd ranked defensive DVOA Lions at home. :229031_shrug:

    The pathological need of many here to search out a (perceived) difference in playcalling/strategy/personnel/player health/etc and attribute it as the sole, direct cause every time the offense/defense suddenly performs well is embarrassing.

    At least it hasn't devolved into another preposterous "maybe we were saving it for the playoffs all along, and we've actually been sandbagging all season!" wishful thinking thread... yet.

    Yet. :irishdrinkers:
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:03 am
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Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:34 am
  • Hawks46 wrote:.....So the question would be: what took so long to make the adjustment?


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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:45 pm
  • I think they actually made some minor changes a few weeks back in terms of adding some iso and stunts, etc. In the Lions game they used more i formation with Reece. Overall the scheme hasn't changed per se, so I believe Pete's comment is correct.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:41 pm
  • Hawks46 wrote:With our Offensive Line being large and very athletic, some of the more studied posters here have been clamoring for a change in run blocking scheme. The Zone blocking system is great for smaller, quicker OLmen. It gives them an advantage on larger DL's and also gets the DL running side to side a lot, thus wearing them down later in the game. Also, combo blocks help control the line of scrimmage while a guy peels off and grabs a LBer.

    Problem this year seems to be that the ZBS we're running is too complicated for our younger guys. We're not getting beat physically, but mentally. It's blown assignments not physical mismatches that have caused our woes.

    Well, Cable must have heard us. I saw a lot more iso and power run blocking this last game. On Rawls TD in particular, you saw Ifedi just walling his guy off and Britt making a really nifty seal on the NT, sealing him inside. Glowinski had at least 3 blocks where he just manned up and put his guy on skates, sometimes for 4 or 5 yards.

    I'd like to see this going forward. Atlanta has a smallish DL that isn't stout at the point of attack. We can (and should) physically beat them, not let them use speed to penetrate gaps caused by missed assignments and create issues.

    So the question would be: what took so long to make the adjustment? Was the coaching staff just waiting for the playoffs ? if so, that's seriously wicked on Pete's part. Think about this from Atlanta's DC's viewpoint: you now have a game on tape that has a bunch of ZBS stuff on it, and we just iso'd up on Detroit and gave you a bunch of things you haven't seen out of us.


    That had a lot to do with Reese - having him "set the table" for those guys on those power runs made them way more effective, timing-wise.
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Re: Cable threw a change up.
Thu Jan 12, 2017 6:27 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    MontanaHawk05 wrote:Starting to think the change might be exaggerated. What it comes down to is this: a few power and iso concepts thrown in here and there (and Seattle got a high rate of success with them), but largely the same system.

    Still, it makes things interesting for Dan Quinn's gameplanning, given that our linemen and Rawls took well to the wrinkles and thus will give Cable and Bevell more flexibility in regards to playcalling. Marcel Reece's status for Saturday will be enormous.


    Yep. Fieldgulls broke it down..............definitely some subtle changes, but not a wholesale scheme change like some on this thread are claiming.

    http://www.fieldgulls.com/2017/1/10/142 ... -tom-cable


    WOW! Thanks for posting that. Sam Gold's film breakdown there was absolutely fantastic (really pure Gold) ... and after reading through that article that and looking at the formations itself, I have to agree with your overall take on what it is we're seeing. Additionally, it's crystal clear that Marcel Reece has been an unbelievable shot in the arm when it comes to the run game. Though I don't think we'll see 160 yards+ out of Rawls in this game ... I DO believe that things are set up nicely for the Hawks to be able to run the ball finally. If they can establish the run (as it looks like they'll be able to) ... then I really like our chances for moving onto the NFCCG.
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