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    Depth Chart, Roster Moves, Cap Position


    As usual the team makes close to 250-300 roster moves/season (occasionally more) and the depth chart changes as injuries happen and/or players are added or subtracted as needed. For us here I believe it’s a good addition to the main board page as often the team changes players, thus their player numbers, their names, etc. are a good thing to be able to quickly refer to. JS likes to churn the roster a bit to help the competitive situation at various positions. There will be lots of changes throughout the season.

    Here is an initial preliminary current depth chart. Effective the free agency opening date of March 9, 2017 I will record each further transaction in and out from then on. Of course, this depth chart is just my opinion and we will all know more after TC, and from the team. I welcome any comments on the depth chart and the positional designations therein. If there is a consensus about a player being wrongly located on the DC I’ll change this DC. The plan is to record all forthcoming roster moves and to adjust the DC as the roster changes are made.

    Please advise here of any changes as they happen. Regardless, I will attempt to keep this depth chart current quickly after all changes, PS designations, waivers, cuts, additions, players claimed, PUP or injury designations, etc.. I will attempt to keep it current throughout the season by indicating what the roster moves were, after they happen. This sometimes involves a delay, sometimes life intervenes, and the delay may result in the update being slower to happen. However, I will make every effort to keep this page current. The changes are frequently in, out, and back in, with the PS churning enough to have an effective player number of greater than 10 players for each week just by the number of weekly transactions. JS seemingly keeps a ghost roster besides the regular PS. This hopefully will be a complete record.

    As well I will update the presently available cap number on a weekly basis, or as quickly as information can be obtained. The number can be seen at the bottom of the page.

    Here is the present roster from Seahawks.com: http://www.seahawks.com/team/roster

    As well now here is the DC from the team: http://www.seahawks.com/team/depth-chart

    Color Codes

    Player already on team from last season, or added with futures deal (F) before FA or the draft

    Players from the team who are/were UFAs (U), RFAs (R), or ERFAs (E) in 2017
    Note: included are added FAs on 1 yr. deals (as italicized where player is from the outside the player may have an appropriately colored designation).

    Player added in FA or claimed as a FA or as a veteran waived player

    Player added in Draft

    UDFA added after the draft

    Player renewed before contract expired

    Player acquired by trade

    As the season is now over as far as any games are concerned I have broken these players noted below out from the roster as they at present will not be under contract to the Seahawks when the season officially ends.

    (29 players in all)

    Unrestricted Free Agents
    1. P/K- 4- Steven Hauschka (U), signed with Buffalo
    2. OT- 78- Bradley Sowell (U),
    3. SOLB- 57- Michael Morgan (U),
    4. DT- 93-Tony McDaniel (U),
    5. FB- 44- Marcel Reece (U),
    6. FB- 46- Will Tukuafu (U), (IR),
    7. FS- 32- Jeron Johnson (U),
    8. SS- 33- Kelcie McCray (U),
    9. TE- 86- Brandon Williams (U), signed with Indiannapolis
    10.CB- 27- Nieko Thorpe (U), re-signed
    11. DE- 97- Damontre Moore (U), (IR), signed with Dallas
    12. DT- 92- John Jenkins (U), signed with Chicago
    13. TE- 82-Luke Willson (U), re-signed
    WR- 17- Devin Hester (U),

    Restricted Free Agents
    1. CB- 35- DeShawn Shead (R), not tendered, re-signed
    2. FS- 23- Steven Terrell (R), not tendered
    3. CB- 26- Mohammed Seisay (IR) (E), not tendered
    4. OT- 79- Gary Gilliam (R), tendered @ original round, RFR level *
    5. MLB- 52- Brock Coyle (R), not tendered, signed with SF
    * NOTE: Until the deadline passes, or there is some report of Gilliam signing his tender I have not included him on the roster or DC, b/c the tender is is simply an offer of a contract. His contract is however counted already for the cap number below.*

    Exclusive Rights Free Agents
    1. WOLB- 41- Dewey McDonald (E), tendered
    2. DE- 95 Tavaris Barnes (IR) (E), not tendered
    3. CB- 30- Stanley Jean-Baptiste (IR) (E), not tendered
    4. RB- 26- Terrence Magee (E), tendered
    5. WR- 13- Tyler Slavin (E), not tendered
    6. FB- 42- Brandon Cottom, (IR) (E), not tendered
    7. RB- 43- Troymaine Pope, (IR) (E), tendered
    8. TE- 87- Ronnie Shields (E), not tendered
    9. TE- 40- Joe Sommers (E), not tendered



    Presently under contract

    OFFENSE (37)

    QB- 3- Russell Wilson, 2- Trevone Boykin,

    RB- 34- Thomas Rawls, 27- Eddie Lacy, 22- CJ Prosise, 36- Alex Collins, 43- Troymaine Pope, 39- George Farmer (F), 37- Kelvin Taylor (F), 30- J.D. McKissic, 26- Terrence Magee,

    FB- u/k- Malcolm Johnson (F),

    WR- 89- Doug Baldwin, 6- Tanner McEvoy, WR- 18- Kasen Williams, u/k- Jamel Johnson (F),

    WR- 16- Tyler Lockett, 15- Jermaine Kearse, 10- Paul Richardson, 11- Kenny Lawler(F), u/k- Rodney Smith (F),

    LT- 74- George Fant, u/k- Luke Joeckel,

    LG- 63- Mark Glowinski, 70- Rees Odhiambo, 62- Robert Myers, (F),

    OC- 68- Justin Britt, 53- Joey Hunt, 66- Ross Burbank (F),

    RG- 76- Germain Ifedi, 75- Will Pericak (F), u/k- Oday Aboushi

    RT-

    TE- 88- Jimmy Graham, 82-Luke Willson, 81- Nick Vannett, 85- Marcus Lucas (F), u/k- Chris Briggs (F)


    DEFENCE (30)

    LDE- 72- Michael Bennett, 91- Cassius Marsh, 64- Tylor Harris (F),

    LDT- 77- Ahtyba Rubin, 99- Quinton Jefferson, u/k- Rodney Coe (F),

    RDT- 90- Jarran Reed, 98- Garrison Smith,

    RDE- 56- Cliff Avril, 55- Frank Clark, 67- Shaneil Jenkins (F),

    SOLB- 58- Kevin Pierre-Louis, 59- Ronald Powell, u/k- Terrence Garvin

    MLB- 54- Bobby Wagner, u/k- Michael Wilhoite

    WOLB- 50- KJ Wright, 41- Dewey McDonald, u/k- Arthur Brown,

    LCB- 25- Richard Sherman, Demetrius McCray (F), 23- Nieko Thorpe,

    RCB- 20- Jeremy Lane, 35- DeShawn Shead , 21- DeAndre Elliott, u/k- Perrish Cox (F),

    FS- 29- Earl Thomas , u/k- Bradley McDougald, 28- Pierre Desir (F),

    SS- 31- Kam Chancellor,


    SPECIAL TEAMS (5)

    PK- u/k- Blair Walsh (F), u/k- John Lunsford

    P- 9- Jon Ryan,

    LS- 48- Tyler Ott, LS- 48- Nolan Frese,


    PRACTICE SQUAD
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    DRAFT PICKS (7)
    1. 1-26
    2. 2-58
    3. 3-90
    3-102
    3-106
    4. traded to NE last draft (Jefferson)
    5. forfeit for 2016 OTA practice violation
    6. 6-210
    7. 7-226


    INJURED RESERVE (IR), PUP (PUP), WAIVED INJURED (WI), INJURED RESERVED DESIGNATED RECALL (IRDR)


    Cut (C), Waived (W), Injury Settlement(IS) (several players may have multiple moves)


    Transaction number (after completion of signings following rookie mini camp, and all roster moves),

    = 14 since the beginning of free agency

    Present Available Cap Number as per OTC.com = $9,684,824
    Note: this number should be viewed with some suspicion as OTC.com is slow to update or have not got all the players on the roster lists in their calculations. They are however normally quite reliable. Our Hawkstorian is often the best source of cap information, and very prescient about cap matters. It is worth repeating that although I don't have Gilliam listed in the roster OTC.com has factored in his $1.797 million tender in the team's cap number.

    http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/seattle-seahawks/

    As well here is a pretty nifty CAP calculator for NFL teams with the added bonus of creating 'what if' scenarios, also from OTC.com.
    http://overthecap.com/calculator/seattle-seahawks/
    Last edited by jammerhawk on Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:58 pm, edited 92 times in total.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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  • Well, this list makes it easy to see what we need to draft.

    DB is dreadful, especially if you figure in that Lane was craptastic last year and Shead, torn up knee. We saw what happened when Kam and Earl were out. We need DB in the worst way.

    Our RB stable also needs replenishing even though it has been addressed. The injuries there cannot be ignored.

    FORTUNATELY This draft is DEEEEEEEEP in DB and RB. We are armed with 3 3rd round picks as well.

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  • Thanks man. I almost had a question...but U/K is unknown status until after the draft when they start looking at things all over their board. Thanks.
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  • Neither the team site nor other sites seem to have numbers for the specific player listed with a u/k notation by their number, so they remain u/k until their number is known.

    As indicated as far as position location or status as far as depth on the DC more will be known as info becomes available.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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  • Thanks for keeping us up to speed, Jammer :2thumbs:
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  • No probs.

    This thread works well when members here add the info as it becomes known. Thanks especially to Jville who is a machine at times and almost always first with the scoop.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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  • Thanks, correction made.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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  • Seahawks to tender OT -Gary Gilliam with original round tender @$1.797 mil. This translates to a RFR tender as Gillam was an undrafted player.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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  • I hate that we lost that 5th rounder in a deep draft. It squanders a depth addition.

    It's time for the staff to knock off the shenanigans that are costing us valuable practices and draft picks.
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  • It seems as if the enthusiasm of the coaching staff needs to be tempered a bit b/c this is the second penalty for overly enthusiastic OTA physicality.

    Last year wasn't the team fined and they lost practices b/c of the over physicality of the OTA practices the year prior?

    Pete needs a reminder from John that 5th Rd. draft picks can provide valuable depth that otherwise costs the team big cap money. Oh, and to zip it about injuries.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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  • Largent80 wrote:I hate that we lost that 5th rounder in a deep draft. It squanders a depth addition.

    It's time for the staff to knock off the shenanigans that are costing us valuable practices and draft picks.


    Didnt Sowell come out and say it's utter bollocks though? Said he'd worked much harder elsewhere and can't believe we are being punished.
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  • Yeah I have read what Sowell said. The league seemed to get revved up about it after there were published reports of a fight during one OTA practice.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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  • Hey Jammer,

    Time to update restricted and unrestricted free agent lists.

    UNRESTRICTED FREE AGENTS

    • TE Luke Willson
    • TE Brandon Williams
    • FB Marcel Reece
    • FB Will Tukuafu
    • LT Bradley Sowell
    • LB Mike Morgan
    • DT Tony McDaniel
    • DL Damontre Moore
    • DT John Jenkins
    • CB Neiko Thorpe
    • S Kelcie McCray
    • S Jeron Johnson
    • PK Stephen Hauschka
    • KR Devin Hester

    • CB DeShawn Shead *
    • FS Steven Terrell *
    • LB Brock Coyle *
    • CB Mohammed Seisay *

    *Restricted free agents who became unrestricted when Seattle did not tender qualifying offers before the March 9 deadline. http://sports.mynorthwest.com/247289/seahawks-2017-free-agency-tracker/
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  • Thanks Jammer for doing this.

    Do you think JS will do some wheeling and dealing to get some picks in the 4th or 5th rounds, or will he stay put?

    I think that maybe it depends on if they sign Lang. If they do, they may trade out of the first and get ?
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  • No problem..

    JS usually likes to have as many picks as he can get. I think he has always had 8 or more. I can easily imagine him trading any of the early picks to reposition and to add more picks. He rarely trades up though, but did last year.

    If the team can add Lang ( I remain doubtful), anything can happen, and moving up or down to get specific players is also possible.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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  • Everything should be updated to note the players ERFA tendered are now added back to the roster. When news of Gilliam signing his RFA tender happens I will add him to the roster.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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  • It is being reported that the Hawks have signed RB-Eddie Lacy for a 1 year deal of $5.55 mil w. $3.0 mil guaranteed.

    Pete appeared happy with this signing.
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  • I am less than overwhelmed or even impressed by the two 1 year deals that we signed. One was a bit of bust, is he really an upgrade to our existing OL??? The over couldn't keep his job against Micheal, yes, our Micheal. Really?

    Not sure how these two will fit in but their respective track record is encouraging.
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  • The thing is both of us don't really have the clear picture yet of what Pete and John want to create on O this season.

    You can hate both signings but both are here on approval at relatively inexpensive, considering the market conditions for Joeckl, deals. When Lacy is in shape and motivated he's a load to bring down and he's not playing for GB this upcoming season. You can be sure he knows he's playing for a big deal this season so for both him and Joeckl both are in a "conract year" position and will need to impress to improve their market value going forward.

    I like Lacy (in shape) bettter than Petersen, Charles, and Murray, besides he's the youngest RB of the FA group and a player w/o the injury history of the others. he does need to watch his weight though and reportedly weighed 267 lbs when visiting a team. Pete wants to see him playing at 240.

    Just an observation but with the addition of Lacy the team has now got 9 guys at RB under contract. Clearly there will be cuts made at that position.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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  • jammerhawk wrote:The thing is both of us don't really have the clear picture yet of what Pete and John want to create on O this season.

    You can hate both signings but both are here on approval at relatively inexpensive, considering the market conditions for Joeckl, deals. When Lacy is in shape and motivated he's a load to bring down and he's not playing for GB this upcoming season. You can be sure he knows he's playing for a big deal this season so for both him and Joeckl both are in a "conract year" position and will need to impress to improve their market value going forward.

    I like Lacy (in shape) bettter than Petersen, Charles, and Murray, besides he's the youngest RB of the FA group and a player w/o the injury history of the others. he does need to watch his weight though and reportedly weighed 267 lbs when visiting a team. Pete wants to see him playing at 240.

    Just an observation but with the addition of Lacy the team has now got 9 guys at RB under contract. Clearly there will be cuts made at that position.


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  • Great news!

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  • Beat me again, thanks Jville, keep up your excellent work.

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    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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  • chris98251 wrote:
    jammerhawk wrote:The thing is both of us don't really have the clear picture yet of what Pete and John want to create on O this season.

    You can hate both signings but both are here on approval at relatively inexpensive, considering the market conditions for Joeckl, deals. When Lacy is in shape and motivated he's a load to bring down and he's not playing for GB this upcoming season. You can be sure he knows he's playing for a big deal this season so for both him and Joeckl both are in a "conract year" position and will need to impress to improve their market value going forward.

    I like Lacy (in shape) bettter than Petersen, Charles, and Murray, besides he's the youngest RB of the FA group and a player w/o the injury history of the others. he does need to watch his weight though and reportedly weighed 267 lbs when visiting a team. Pete wants to see him playing at 240.

    Just an observation but with the addition of Lacy the team has now got 9 guys at RB under contract. Clearly there will be cuts made at that position.


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    Yep, but one of our bubbles is a lot bigger than the others, likely they will only keep 3 or 4. That means 5 don't make the cut.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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  • jammerhawk wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:
    jammerhawk wrote:The thing is both of us don't really have the clear picture yet of what Pete and John want to create on O this season.

    You can hate both signings but both are here on approval at relatively inexpensive, considering the market conditions for Joeckl, deals. When Lacy is in shape and motivated he's a load to bring down and he's not playing for GB this upcoming season. You can be sure he knows he's playing for a big deal this season so for both him and Joeckl both are in a "conract year" position and will need to impress to improve their market value going forward.

    I like Lacy (in shape) bettter than Petersen, Charles, and Murray, besides he's the youngest RB of the FA group and a player w/o the injury history of the others. he does need to watch his weight though and reportedly weighed 267 lbs when visiting a team. Pete wants to see him playing at 240.

    Just an observation but with the addition of Lacy the team has now got 9 guys at RB under contract. Clearly there will be cuts made at that position.


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    Yep, but one of our bubbles is a lot bigger than the others, likely they will only keep 3 or 4. That means 5 don't make the cut.


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  • As per the other thread herein, Luke Willson and Deshawn Shead have both been re-signed for 1 year each.
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  • DT John Jenkins has signed with the Bears. No loss, not someone the Hawks wanted back, and doesn't count toward the comp pick formula, but worth sharing nonetheless.
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  • Hey Jammer,

    Since you alerted everyone here to all the one year contracts, thought you might enjoy the following:
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  • The team has signed OLB- Arthur Brown to a 1 year deal. Until I know more about him I've shoved him on the roster as a SOLB.

    EDIT: He's now listed as a backup WOLB
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    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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  • The team has signed OG- Oday Aboushi formerly of theTexans. It's another one year deal.

    http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/arti ... 010393.php
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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  • Thanks, updated.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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  • Thanks ivotuk.

    Free Safety BradleyMc Dougald is signed to a one year deal as reported in another thread here. I suspect he's a hedge for ET, just in case he's slow to recuperate. I f feel however he may be simply a depth signing at either S position. His speed would seem to limit his positional versatility to being more of a SS type. I won't question this signing as PC knows the DBs he thinks fits our scheme better than anyone.

    Here's a draft profile;

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/ ... id=2539243

    Interesting addition.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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  • Seahawks sign P/K John Lunsford.

    Strong legged P/K. He's competition for Walsh.

    Here's a draft profile

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/ ... id=2555397
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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  • Seahawks sign ILB- Michael Wilhoite.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

    Super Bowl XLVIII Champions at last after 38 seasons. Awesome!!!
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  • Seahawks signed OLB Terence Garvin
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    Seahawks agreed to terms with LB Terence Garvin, source says. Tough kind of player they like.


    Oops a repeat.

    Here's a draft profile:

    http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/ds ... genpos=OLB
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

    Super Bowl XLVIII Champions at last after 38 seasons. Awesome!!!
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  • B/C this player was an ERFA, after he was tendered I listed him on the roster b/c he could not sign elsewhere.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

    Super Bowl XLVIII Champions at last after 38 seasons. Awesome!!!
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