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Worried about FA
Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:34 pm
  • There already have been some big moves by some big names. I hope JS and PC don't just sit back and relax and think everything is OK at the home front. We have some needs and there are players out there that would fit right in.

    There are already some names I wish we would of at least taken a sniff at...and maybe we did. Sometimes I think JS and PC think they are too good to pick up Free Agents as they feel they are better picking up players NO ONE wants and making them into players (Basketball Players).
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Re: Worried about FA
Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:41 pm
  • No need to worry. We wait for the value plays in the 2nd and 3rd waves like Webb and Sowell to sign on the cheap, making the rest of the league look incompetent.
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Re: Worried about FA
Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:46 pm
  • King Dog wrote:No need to worry. We wait for the value plays in the 2nd and 3rd waves like Webb and Sowell to sign on the cheap, making the rest of the league look incompetent.

    What about Avril and Bennett?
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Re: Worried about FA
Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:46 pm
  • Please tell me which current FA's that have been signed you would have liked - at the salary they signed at.
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Re: Worried about FA
Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:47 pm
  • zchurch74 wrote:There already have been some big moves by some big names. I hope JS and PC don't just sit back and relax and think everything is OK at the home front. We have some needs and there are players out there that would fit right in.

    There are already some names I wish we would of at least taken a sniff at...and maybe we did. Sometimes I think JS and PC think they are too good to pick up Free Agents as they feel they are better picking up players NO ONE wants and making them into players (Basketball Players).


    Have you not watched them in FA for 7 years now?

    You need to relax.
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Re: Worried about FA
Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:48 pm
  • UK_Seahawk wrote:
    King Dog wrote:No need to worry. We wait for the value plays in the 2nd and 3rd waves like Webb and Sowell to sign on the cheap, making the rest of the league look incompetent.

    What about Avril and Bennett?


    Sorry. I just started following the Hawks last season.
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Re: Worried about FA
Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:07 pm
  • King Dog wrote:
    UK_Seahawk wrote:
    King Dog wrote:No need to worry. We wait for the value plays in the 2nd and 3rd waves like Webb and Sowell to sign on the cheap, making the rest of the league look incompetent.

    What about Avril and Bennett?


    Sorry. I just started following the Hawks last season.


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Re: Worried about FA
Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:20 pm
  • I'm fine with what they're doing, I wouldn't mind Jamaal Charles but even if we don't get him I'm fine with that too. They'll fill some small roles and then be able to draft best player available. Looking more and more like corner in the 1st.
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Re: Worried about FA
Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:25 pm
  • Virtually every major signing has elicited a collective WTH from the media and fans. If you rely on free agency to build a team you're doing it wrong.
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Re: Worried about FA
Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:01 pm
  • endzorn wrote:Virtually every major signing has elicited a collective WTH from the media and fans. If you rely on free agency to build a team you're doing it wrong.


    And this has been proven over and over again.
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Re: Worried about FA
Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:22 pm
  • Relax. JS/PC know what they're doing. The only front office I trust more than ours would be New England
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Re: Worried about FA
Fri Mar 10, 2017 7:51 pm
  • zchurch74 wrote:There already have been some big moves by some big names. I hope JS and PC don't just sit back and relax and think everything is OK at the home front. We have some needs and there are players out there that would fit right in.

    There are already some names I wish we would of at least taken a sniff at
    ...and maybe we did. Sometimes I think JS and PC think they are too good to pick up Free Agents as they feel they are better picking up players NO ONE wants and making them into players (Basketball Players).



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Re: Worried about FA
Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:07 pm
  • I look at the Patriots signing Cooks and the Bucs singing Campbell. We need more speed at the wide out position, and we better improve the pass rush which suffered last year. You also need to sign at least one cornerback with speed to complement Sherman. It's a pass happy league, especially with the rules in place. If you can not throw down the field and prevent the opposing team from advancing with a solid rush, you won't win any championships period.
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Re: Worried about FA
Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:10 pm
  • We have a lot of speed at WR if Lockett comes back healthy along with Richardson. Barwin would be an awesome pickup on the DL for pass rush. There's a ton of freak secondary players available in the draft. I hope we grab a few.

    Campbell went to the Jags. The Bucs got DeSean Jackson
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Re: Worried about FA
Fri Mar 10, 2017 11:36 pm
  • RW92 wrote:I look at the Patriots signing Cooks and the Bucs singing Campbell. We need more speed at the wide out position, and we better improve the pass rush which suffered last year. You also need to sign at least one cornerback with speed to complement Sherman. It's a pass happy league, especially with the rules in place. If you can not throw down the field and prevent the opposing team from advancing with a solid rush, you won't win any championships period.



    Speed won't do anything if your QB is on his ass because it takes more then 2 seconds to let the speed guys get to the second level and use that speed.
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Re: Worried about FA
Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:55 am
  • RW92 wrote:I look at the Patriots signing Cooks and the Bucs singing Campbell. We need more speed at the wide out position, and we better improve the pass rush which suffered last year. You also need to sign at least one cornerback with speed to complement Sherman. It's a pass happy league, especially with the rules in place. If you can not throw down the field and prevent the opposing team from advancing with a solid rush, you won't win any championships period.


    Baldwin, Lockett, and Richardson may be the speediest WR trio in the NFL. Speed is not what they need at WR, size is. I would have liked to see them kick the tires on Brandon Marshall.

    FA CB have not worked well for the seahawks. They need to go through the draft for secondary players.
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Re: Worried about FA
Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:42 am
  • Sorry about the mix up with Campbell going to Jags.

    But with that aside, I still feel that our wide receivers are for the most part number 2 wide outs and do not measure up
    to the likes of a D. Jackson, a Garcon, a Cooks or even an Antonio Brown.

    Paul Richardson yes did improve as the season went on, but his separating speed doesn't equate with those of the receivers I just mentioned. And I do hope that Lockette fully recovers to his rookie season performance.

    And if you had a chance to see any highlights of the kid John Ross from Washington that is the type of receiver who can stretch the field the way you envision. Once again I'm not saying we will ever get him , we can't, because of our draft position, but that's what you're looking for.

    Second, again I'm looking just at the "measurebles", if we could add two players to our defense my wish list would be Myles Garrett from Texas A&M, and Reuben Foster from Alabama. Garrett is going to be a heck of pass rusher as he develops, and Foster despite his mishap at the combine is a flat out baller. No he isn't your choir boy, but with the right guidance that kid will leave his mark on a game. Again this isn't reality, but points to the type and style of athleticism we are looking for.

    Because with the Patriots reinforcing their arsenal, I look at them as our real nemesis to another Suprbowl. We have to be able to defend their now improved speed at wide out and the additions they have made defensively to match them competitively. Again this is my perception that I'm sure many may not agree with.

    Lastly, you have to look at your weaknesses objectively and address them from the highest priority down. And don't be afraid to tell someone that it's time to move on. Additionally don't try and sign the least expensive free agents and put a team out there that falls short of expectations.
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Re: Worried about FA
Sat Mar 11, 2017 8:55 am
  • iigakusei wrote:Please tell me which current FA's that have been signed you would have liked - at the salary they signed at.

    Bingo. We're doing exactly what we do and will be fine. If healthy we will be the favorites in the Superbowl no matter what New England tries.
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Re: Worried about FA
Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:45 am
  • See all of the other posts about FA's. Its starting off with a linemen who can't stay on the field. We are bringing in a RB that is also injury and fumble prone.

    If we can get Lang that's a positive.
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Re: Worried about FA
Sun Mar 12, 2017 7:49 am
  • If buying big in FA could guarantee championships, Snyder would have had Washington in the SB five times in the last 10 years.

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Re: Worried about FA
Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:05 am
  • Most people can look around the NFL and realize that the teams with sustained success are the ones that build through the draft and avoid overpaying in free agency. However, it's a long offseason and waiting while other teams overpay for good players feels like you're a child missing Christmas morning.

    Of course some people are going to be antsy about it, just realize that the presents are still coming in April in the form of the draft and UDFA. We'll be picking up 15-18 rookies and even though it's hard to find diamonds in the rough we take enough cracks at it to have a good chance of finding some.
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Re: Worried about FA
Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:08 am
  • You don't build a good team through free agency unless you do, like when we signed Avril and Bennett the same year.
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Re: Worried about FA
Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:21 am
  • AgentDib wrote:Most people can look around the NFL and realize that the teams with sustained success are the ones that build through the draft and avoid overpaying in free agency. However, it's a long offseason and waiting while other teams overpay for good players feels like you're a child missing Christmas morning.

    Of course some people are going to be antsy about it, just realize that the presents are still coming in April in the form of the draft and UDFA. We'll be picking up 15-18 rookies and even though it's hard to find diamonds in the rough we take enough cracks at it to have a good chance of finding some.

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Re: Worried about FA
Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:28 am
  • getnasty wrote:I'm fine with what they're doing, I wouldn't mind Jamaal Charles but even if we don't get him I'm fine with that too. They'll fill some small roles and then be able to draft best player available. Looking more and more like corner in the 1st.


    This is the kind of thinking that got us into this mess in the first place. Sign some no talent free agent lineman that have done nothing in the NFL. The line is still the biggest problem I still look at it as if nothings been done.
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Re: Worried about FA
Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:31 am
  • I don't understand how all four starters who underperformed on the line last year are just given a pass. One no name who has done nothing in the NFL. I'll try to be patient but good start fam.
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Re: Worried about FA
Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:52 am
  • With the Hawks unable to sign Lang and all the other quality OL free agents signed elsewhere, along with a historically bad OL draft class, it is a virtual certainty that he Hawks will against have the worst OL in the league in 2017.

    You were right to be worried.
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Re: Worried about FA
Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:08 am
  • It's early, I'm not tossing the towel in just yet, unlike a few here.

    So the team didn't overpay to acquire veteran big name help on the interior OLine. It's just 5 days into the FA period and we have seen stupid money thrown at a few not very talented OLinemen. Russell Okung is now the highest paid OLineman in football, really? Handwringing over not signing an injured 29 year old OG for a reported $28.5 mil/3years, not me. As far as I'm concerned there are other players including a few lesser named guys who may still come here, relax, wait and watch. :snack:

    If nothing else there is still the draft. Remember this, the team is involved in a lot of FA discussions as a place of choice for many players.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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Re: Worried about FA
Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:15 am
  • I gotta say guys I completely disagree. We have proven that you can build a winner primarily through Free Agency. I mean look at what we have done. We are proof......

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    Non-Drafted Free Agency.

    Oh you guys were talking about normal free agency... oops.
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Re: Worried about FA
Wed Mar 15, 2017 2:30 pm
  • gowazzu02 wrote:I gotta say guys I completely disagree. We have proven that you can build a winner primarily through Free Agency. I mean look at what we have done. We are proof......

    .......

    .......

    Non-Drafted Free Agency.

    Oh you guys were talking about normal free agency... oops.



    Well we sure instilled some confidence here. Signing an overweight, fat, slow, plodding running back.

    At this point unless several miracles happen between the draft and signing undrafted free agents that turn into a stud, we will not be able to compete with the Patriots. Let.s face it. Barring major injury they should represent the AFC next year.
    And if they do I just don't see us keeping up on both sides of the line.

    I hope I'm wrong but I just don't get a great feeling so far.
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