Coach Carroll's coaching staff going rogue!!!

cover-2 · Mar 31, 2017

Coach Carroll knows what style of offense and defense he wants, yet this past year his coaching staff went rouge. Carroll wants to be a run first ball control team, yet his offensive coordinator was pass happy. Carroll wants his defense to be a Cover 3 press, yet his defensive coordinator seemed to have the CB's playing in off coverage the majority of the time. Carroll's offensive line coach looks to have waaaaaay too much say in which offensive lineman are drafted.

IMO Carroll's biggest weakness is being too faithful to his coaching staff. I'm hoping he reins in his coaching staff this year when it comes to play calling.

Here is my #1 coaching prospect for the Seahawks next offensive line coach, Utah offensive line coach Jim Harding...

Harding was a four year starter at OT for the U of Toledo, and a 1st team All-Mac selection his senior year. Harding was the offensive line coach for the most physical offensive line this past year. I first noticed Harding when I was scouting one of the Utah offensive lineman, but unfortantly I didn't save that video. Below are a couple of videos of Harding and his coaching style, which seem to fit Coach Carroll's coaching style...

Here is offensive line guru Jim Harding from 2012...
[youtube]yk8gjUdkXTE[/youtube]

And another good video of Harding, he was born to teach offensive lineman...
https://vimeo.com/111785588

King Dog · Mar 31, 2017

Nice post, but Carroll seems to love Cable, so good luck with that

Siouxhawk · Mar 31, 2017

Every nuance of how the offense and defense is run goes through Pete. Nothing "rogue" about it. To think otherwise is completely foolish.

Josea16 · Apr 1, 2017

I really hate....

Bunch of words off topic.

Sports Hernia · Apr 1, 2017

cover-2":k040r8cl said:
Coach Carroll knows what style of offense and defense he wants, yet this past year his coaching staff went rouge. Carroll wants to be a run first ball control team, yet his offensive coordinator was pass happy. Carroll wants his defense to be a Cover 3 press, yet his defensive coordinator seemed to have the CB's playing in off coverage the majority of the time. Carroll's offensive line coach looks to have waaaaaay too much say in which offensive lineman are drafted.

IMO Carroll's biggest weakness is being too faithful to his coaching staff. I'm hoping he reins in his coaching staff this year when it comes to play calling.

Here is my #1 coaching prospect for the Seahawks next offensive line coach, Utah offensive line coach Jim Harding...

Harding was a four year starter at OT for the U of Toledo, and a 1st team All-Mac selection his senior year. Harding was the offensive line coach for the most physical offensive line this past year. I first noticed Harding when I was scouting one of the Utah offensive lineman, but unfortantly I didn't save that video. Below are a couple of videos of Harding and his coaching style, which seem to fit Coach Carroll's coaching style...

Here is offensive line guru Jim Harding from 2012...
[youtube]yk8gjUdkXTE[/youtube]

And another good video of Harding, he was born to teach offensive lineman...
https://vimeo.com/111785588

While I'd like to see a few of the under performing coaches get 86'ed, it's probably not happening anytime soon.
Wish the "always compete" and the "competition" mantras applied to the assistant coaching staff as it is for the players.

Pete's biggest strength is his loyalty, it's also his biggest weakness.

Jville · Apr 1, 2017

Pete Carroll relieved running back coach Sherman Smith of his duties this off season. And he made some adjustments to the assignments of a number of the staff.

I'd say Carroll is actively evaluating his staff.

And yes, it is spelled Rogue.

Tical21 · Apr 1, 2017

Not sure. He may mean the coach has red on their face, but I'd bet he's talking about the point you get for a touchback in the CFL.

seabowl · Apr 1, 2017

Fire Bevell

jammerhawk · Apr 1, 2017

Going red? francais?

Nice post but it could have gone in about three other threads.

Frankly disagree with the negativity,

Seymour · Apr 1, 2017

After 2-3 years of harping to fire Cable and or Bevell, one has to think that another shit show like last years offense needs to be followed with a fire Pete theme. I'm not there yet and do not like the thought, but he is in charge here, and all the issues are ultimately his doing including Sherman.

scutterhawk · Apr 1, 2017

I luv Rogue spuh-get-ee sause. :17:

FlyingGreg · Apr 1, 2017

Jville":3enmszmh said:
Pete Carroll relieved running back coach Sherman Smith of his duties this off season. And he made some adjustments to the assignments of a number of the staff.

I'd say Carroll is actively evaluating his staff.

And yes, it is spelled Rogue.

Pretty minor adjustments. Cable, Bevell, and Richard all need to be on a short leash this season.

Siouxhawk · Apr 1, 2017

To the Moulin Rouge? Latest bonding journey?

Pete has assembled one of the best coaching staffs in the NFL. It's proven leadership has taken this perennial doormat of an organization and propped them up among the league elites. And they're not finished. I predict another Super Bowl crown for the Hawks within the next 3 years.

Seymour · Apr 1, 2017

Siouxhawk":fsar95jz said:
To the Moulin Rouge? Latest bonding journey?

Pete has assembled one of the best coaching staffs in the NFL. It's proven leadership has taken this perennial doormat of an organization and propped them up among the league elites. And they're not finished. I predict another Super Bowl crown for the Hawks within the next 3 years.

Mike Holmgren may have a thing or two to say about that. Of course I need to remember, you probably don't know who that is.

Band Wagon much?

ukeface:

Sealake80 · Apr 1, 2017

Seymour, what you and others call a shit show... many call one of the Seahawks best seasons. There were struggles but the overall outcome was fairly positive imo.

Pete is responsible for the issues... he is responsible for the success!

I sincerely doubt any other guy could have come in and strung together this run. We got the magic. Is there any wonder he trys to hold on to it?

Changes need to made and they will be made, on coaches schedule as much as possible. If Pete can find an upgrade anywhere on the staff without doing damage to his team and win forever philosophy... he will.

Imo if Pete can't do his thing, WIN, with the Seahawks he will walk away. NOT get fired because of some fan opinions.

As for th OP. There is a dynamic tension on this team that I am not quite sure of between players and coaches... maybe coaches and coaches too! As many have said it probably goes back to the play.

olyfan63 · Apr 1, 2017

Josea16":10nijwhp said:
I really hate when people spell "Rogue" as "Rouge".*

Doesn't anyone know how to spell or know English anymore?

* It's a TTRPG thing.

I thought the thread was going to be about the coaching staff dressing in drag for April Fool's and wearing rouge on their cheeks, you know, "going rouge", and maybe even "going mascara" too.

Siouxhawk · Apr 1, 2017

Seymour":d41ey29w said:
Siouxhawk":d41ey29w said:

To the Moulin Rouge? Latest bonding journey?

Pete has assembled one of the best coaching staffs in the NFL. It's proven leadership has taken this perennial doormat of an organization and propped them up among the league elites. And they're not finished. I predict another Super Bowl crown for the Hawks within the next 3 years.

Click to expand...

Mike Holmgren may have a thing or two to say about that. Of course I need to remember, you probably don't know who that is.

Band Wagon much?
ukeface:

Of course I know who Holmgren is and I layed out my journey to the Hawks recently fairly succinctly.

Maybe doormat comes off as too harsh, although there some years where that applied. But just from conversing on here, the success rate of the team as a whole was pretty bleak and just making the playoffs qualified as a thrill.

That all precipitated to deep playoff runs being the expectation when Pete and his staff got their hands on the team.

Uncle Si · Apr 1, 2017

Post...

Not poster. Believe Sioux has his own thread in the Shack for that.

Back on topic (whatever the heck this thread is about)

Seymour · Apr 1, 2017

Sealake80":2cftdlfg said:
Seymour, what you and others call a shit show... many call one of the Seahawks best seasons. There were struggles but the overall outcome was fairly positive imo.

Pete is responsible for the issues... he is responsible for the success!

I sincerely doubt any other guy could have come in and strung together this run. We got the magic. Is there any wonder he trys to hold on to it?

Changes need to made and they will be made, on coaches schedule as much as possible. If Pete can find an upgrade anywhere on the staff without doing damage to his team and win forever philosophy... he will.

Imo if Pete can't do his thing, WIN, with the Seahawks he will walk away. NOT get fired because of some fan opinions.

As for th OP. There is a dynamic tension on this team that I am not quite sure of between players and coaches... maybe coaches and coaches too! As many have said it probably goes back to the play.

Many think 2016 was one of our best seasons? Wow, you are the first I've seen, but to each his own. I'm looking more at the talent level vs performance, and the mis-calculations (or flat out ineptitude) on Oline made this team very hard to watch considering the level of talent.

purpleneer · Apr 1, 2017

I'd say Pete's big weakness is his stubbornness/inflexibility, which makes him overlook the fact that the game has passed Cable by. His strength of individual coaching is mitigated by the drastic practice limitations, undersized rosters, and also his own stubbornness and unwillingness to adapt. As much as I enjoy the continued relevance, I'm concerned that the lack of flexibility is going to make it a run that stops at the one title while watching the guy most willing to adapt win multiple titles with less talented teams.

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