Rob Rang gives us a B

Other than botching Tyson's name, this was a pretty competent, fair, and balanced summary. I'd give the draft a solid B myself.

The Seahawks did add two offensive linemen, burly blockers Ethan Pocic and Justin Senior from the SEC, but neither possesses the agility and balance most teams require of its tackles, so expecting either rookie to solve Seattle's pass blocking woes is probably unrealistic.

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nash72":28pl26zm said:

The Seahawks did add two offensive linemen, burly blockers Ethan Pocic and Justin Senior from the SEC, but neither possesses the agility and balance most teams require of its tackles, so expecting either rookie to solve Seattle's pass blocking woes is probably unrealistic.

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Oh, damn. "Expecting either rookie to solve Seattle's pass blocking woes is probably unrealistic." And here I thought Pocic was for sure the second coming of Walter Jones, Max Unger, Steve Hutchinson, and Breno Giacomini all morphed into one and multiplied ten-fold.

I'm seeing other scouting reports (plus that one stat of "did not give up a sack or hit in 2016") that are making me disagree with Rang on Pocic. He's got Max Unger upside. That's not a sky-high glowing endorsement - just an indicator that he can do well.

MontanaHawk05":avrohug8 said:

I'm seeing other scouting reports (plus that one stat of "did not give up a sack or hit in 2016") that are making me disagree with Rang on Pocic. He's got Max Unger upside. That's not a sky-high glowing endorsement - just an indicator that he can do well.

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Anything in Unger territory is just skippy with me. We don't need an elite or above average OL line, just league average will work just fine thank you very much. We doing exactly what we need to do to start New England's relevance in the NFL go back to where it should be. I like the thought of making Tom Brady retire like Peyton Manning. That, to all the penny gallery is how a legacy is built and how you become a West Coast legacy team and really hated and relevant like the Raiders. I so want the Seahawks to be at that level because it makes Red Friday seriously fun. Just wear my Lockett or Clark jersey at work and watch the fun begin. It's priceless trust me.:mrgreen:

The next time Rang is correct on a prospect will be the first. I trust Pete and John and respect the opinions of McShay and Mayock. I don't care what a blogger thinks. I'd say their opinion is a dime a dozen but it's actually much less.

I was watching Sportcenter and Kiper gave a C+ for the Malik pick and right after McShay ranked it as the best of Seahawks draft and how he has this huge upside

So point being you can find an opinion that aligns with what you want and then stick to it....

Ruminator":21mizkvq said:

nash72":21mizkvq said:

The Seahawks did add two offensive linemen, burly blockers Ethan Pocic and Justin Senior from the SEC, but neither possesses the agility and balance most teams require of its tackles, so expecting either rookie to solve Seattle's pass blocking woes is probably unrealistic.

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Hmmm

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Oh, damn. "Expecting either rookie to solve Seattle's pass blocking woes is probably unrealistic." And here I thought Pocic was for sure the second coming of Walter Jones, Max Unger, Steve Hutchinson, and Breno Giacomini all morphed into one and multiplied ten-fold.

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Problem is, everybodys expecting Pocic to be our starting right tackle ( but neither possesses the agility and balance most teams require of its tackles). I think it was a horrible and wasted pick and I doubt he cracks our starting lineup.

Seafan":21rtu8ct said:

The next time Rang is correct on a prospect will be the first. I trust Pete and John and respect the opinions of McShay and Mayock. I don't care what a blogger thinks. I'd say their opinion is a dime a dozen but it's actually much less.

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Yeah

nash72":3ll8rpna said:

Ruminator":3ll8rpna said:

nash72":3ll8rpna said:

The Seahawks did add two offensive linemen, burly blockers Ethan Pocic and Justin Senior from the SEC, but neither possesses the agility and balance most teams require of its tackles, so expecting either rookie to solve Seattle's pass blocking woes is probably unrealistic.

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Hmmm

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Oh, damn. "Expecting either rookie to solve Seattle's pass blocking woes is probably unrealistic." And here I thought Pocic was for sure the second coming of Walter Jones, Max Unger, Steve Hutchinson, and Breno Giacomini all morphed into one and multiplied ten-fold.

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Problem is, everybodys expecting Pocic to be our starting right tackle ( but neither possesses the agility and balance most teams require of its tackles). I think it was a horrible and wasted pick and I doubt he cracks our starting lineup.

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Just wondering who you wanted instead? There are no guarantees with modern day college linemen, not even the ones ranked in the top 10 of a given draft. I think wait and see is the correct stance for every player drafted.

nash72":1zxwuz8c said:

Problem is, everybodys expecting Pocic to be our starting right tackle ( but neither possesses the agility and balance most teams require of its tackles). I think it was a horrible and wasted pick and I doubt he cracks our starting lineup.

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Who is this "everybody" you are talking about? Beware the fallacy of generalizing.

If he ends up on the roster, I think we'll all be pleased.

Ad Hawk":1727wlpx said:

nash72":1727wlpx said:

Problem is, everybodys expecting Pocic to be our starting right tackle ( but neither possesses the agility and balance most teams require of its tackles). I think it was a horrible and wasted pick and I doubt he cracks our starting lineup.

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Who is this "everybody" you are talking about? Beware the fallacy of generalizing.

If he ends up on the roster, I think we'll all be pleased.

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Sorry about the technicality. I meant most people on this board and most analysts i've read. Where do you see him playing.

Sad when we're not even sure or confident he'll make the roster.

Hey, I hope i'm surprised by the kid, but so far, he looks to be the worst pick in the draft to me.

penihawk":924oep6d said:

nash72":924oep6d said:

Ruminator":924oep6d said:

Oh, damn. "Expecting either rookie to solve Seattle's pass blocking woes is probably unrealistic." And here I thought Pocic was for sure the second coming of Walter Jones, Max Unger, Steve Hutchinson, and Breno Giacomini all morphed into one and multiplied ten-fold.

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Problem is, everybodys expecting Pocic to be our starting right tackle ( but neither possesses the agility and balance most teams require of its tackles). I think it was a horrible and wasted pick and I doubt he cracks our starting lineup.

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Just wondering who you wanted instead? There are no guarantees with modern day college linemen, not even the ones ranked in the top 10 of a given draft. I think wait and see is the correct stance for every player drafted.

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We had a chance at Ramcyzk, Robinson, or Lamp (preferred the other two over Lamp because he's a natural guard). I would have much rather taken a chance on a left tackle (our greatest weakness) than drafting a center that will be moved to either right guard or right tackle. Even if those guys didnt pan out, we at least took a chance on protecting Wilson's blindside. Now we're just relegated to the garbage that is Jokel and Fant. Horrible.

penihawk":2l66lq80 said:

Just wondering who you wanted instead? There are no guarantees with modern day college linemen, not even the ones ranked in the top 10 of a given draft. I think wait and see is the correct stance for every player drafted.

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The next two to go on the O-line was Dawkins and Moton. Dawkins is thought of as a starter day 1 as I understand it so that would be one.

Trading up to take two close picks in the 2nd instead using the draft capital we gained would have been interesting and get Lamp. But yes it would have cost quite a pretty penny

This is why i evaluate guys myself then i compare what i see to what they say so when grades are giving out if it doesnt match or come close to mine then i disregard it. Everyone has an opinion but i factor in upside aswell. My only regret is not getting Obi but Malik is the only guy i wanted for sure because of his age and All pro upside. People compare him to Campbell but i see more of a J.J. Watt because he is more athletic than Campbell. He can be a DOMINATE pass rusher and run stopper.

Rob Rang I respect FAR more than the usual blowhards (aka Kiper).

For whatever reason, when I read Rob Rang, I thought of this guy...

Rob Riggle

I was wondering why we gave two shits what he thought.

nash72":gmkhwbsw said:

Sorry about the technicality. I meant most people on this board and most analysts i've read. Where do you see him playing.

Sad when we're not even sure or confident he'll make the roster.

Hey, I hope i'm surprised by the kid, but so far, he looks to be the worst pick in the draft to me.

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I don't know where he will play, as I'm not the one who drafted him. But since he's played across the entire line at the college level, and had some success there (I know you don't think much of it as success--your opinion), I expect somewhere other than C since Britt is doing so well there. He may fill in if Britt is injured, but at this point I'm going to wait and see how he works with the line as a position group; it isn't entirely a bunch of individuals, but a team working together. You ought at least to be glad Pocic has O-line background as he'll adapt much more quickly than the conversion projects.

I assume you mean the worst pick in the Hawks draft. I can't imagine you truly know enough about every other team's needs and picks at every position to make that kind of assertion. And unless you're a prophet, you have no way of knowing who will work out.

The biggest problem with the philosophy of taking one of the questionably better lineman is that we then lose out on quite a few other positions that we earned by moving down a few spots and filling a definite area of need on D-line. Sorry, the O-line just isn't the priority for some as you'd like it to be.

Sorry you have to live with such disappointment, but also seems to be your way: build up expectations, then find that others don't meet them and complain with hyperbole. And... Repeat.

Ad Hawk":77chmmqh said:

nash72":77chmmqh said:

Sorry about the technicality. I meant most people on this board and most analysts i've read. Where do you see him playing.

Sad when we're not even sure or confident he'll make the roster.

Hey, I hope i'm surprised by the kid, but so far, he looks to be the worst pick in the draft to me.

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Sorry, the O-line just isn't the priority for some as you'd like it to be.

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It absolutely is a priority. We cant run the ball and our QB is going to get killed due to it. Shame the FO has done such a piss poor job in regards to fixing it.

By the way, do you need some help with your avatar? I'd be glad to lend a helping hand.