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  • Winning SB48 doesn't count. O-Line was rated 27th by profootballfocus. We won that year because of Russ, the defense and of course Lynch.

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  • Incredibly adept at impersonating a coach
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  • HOW DOES THIS GUY EVEN HAVE A JOB?
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  • He socked that one dude pretty good in the face.
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  • Absorbs a lot of coaching budget dollars.
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  • There was that one play that one time where one of our linemen didn't give up a sack or commit a penalty. In like 2013 I think it was.
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  • His SB credit has to be gone now...
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  • Hawkfish wrote:HOW DOES THIS GUY EVEN HAVE A JOB?


    Perhaps ...

    Rat wrote:He socked that one dude pretty good in the face.


    Would you want to fire him?

    Seriously, I don't know to what extent Cable is the problem versus being put in an impossible position, but our coaching / management as a whole has simply failed at solving what's been a problem that is continuously getting worse.
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  • The integration of poor pass blocking with RW's improvisational play-style.

    Cable's genius zone blocking schemes provide the ridiculously porous pass blocking necessary for RW to escape and scramble... providing us his "rabbit out of the hat" plays we have come to love.

    This makes our offense more dynamic and utterly unpredictable... to anyone.

    Without Cable's tutelage of the Oline, RW would have to sit in a clean pocket all day where he is simply too short to see.
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  • I keep asking this question: "How come other teams produce "decent" Olines with a small budget?

    I realize we had the lowest paid line at one time, but I don't think that's true now is it?

    Although. "Defenses are usually ahead of Offenses early in the year" Troy Aikman.
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  • It's as if Tom Cable literally just picks guys, goes "hmm this guy would look good here, ok we're ready!". Year after year this guy proves to us he doesn't know what he's doing. Big Balls Pete....it's your move, sir.
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  • I'm utterly without hope for Pete on the issue of cable. None at all. We will never get the line fixed as long as cable is here and Pete is sickeningly blind to it.
    And because Pete is awesome at everything else we will never draft high enough to score a sure thing tackle.
    Also well done not playing Pocic cable you tool.
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  • Cable will become the Seahawks Head Coach next year after Pete Carroll retires... If this actually comes true, I can't wait for the North Korean War to start!


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  • Unfortunately we will never really know how good Cable is. Are the struggles on Cable or the front office for not getting better players. He is here to stay for now, but I'd have no problem with us movingly on from him after this season. At some point JS and PC need to get some quality offensive linemen.
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  • Hey! That's my Assistant Head Coach you are talking about. He got promoted that is enough.

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    In all seriousness it is surprising that there isn't at least 1 defender of Cable from a .NET member. There is usually at least one for everyone on the team.
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  • Hawk-Lock wrote:Unfortunately we will never really know how good Cable is. Are the struggles on Cable or the front office for not getting better players. He is here to stay for now, but I'd have no problem with us movingly on from him after this season. At some point JS and PC need to get some quality offensive linemen.


    Ifedi shouldn't be this bad unless Cable and JS really are so in the dark about Cable's coaching abilities.
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  • Remember when he said that college Linemen were not properly trained and he picked guys from the streets who used to play soccer (or was it Field Hockey or Cricket :) ) and tried to turn them into O-Linemen?

    I asked the question earlier if our Failure on the O-Line was due to bad talent of bad coaching (or maybe bad scouting)...
    Something drastic needs to happen soon.
    When i see how much time Rodgers had back there and how much time Russ is given ... it is really unfair.
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  • Cable on draft day. "Hold my beer"
    Cable in training camp. "Hold my beer!"
    Cable in pre season. "hold my.." you get the point.
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  • joeseahawks wrote:Remember when he said that college Linemen were not properly trained and he picked guys from the streets who used to play soccer (or was it Field Hockey or Cricket :) ) and tried to turn them into O-Linemen?

    I asked the question earlier if our Failure on the O-Line was due to bad talent of bad coaching (or maybe bad scouting)...
    Something drastic needs to happen soon.
    When i see how much time Rodgers had back there and how much time Russ is given ... it is really unfair.


    I think our D line did a great job today. Sheldon Richardson really does improve that D line vastly. The problem is that even with that pressure, Rodger's O line is competent enough to make pressure less completely disastrous.
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  • I've always thought Tom Cable's "Zone blocking scheme" does not work well. Every year the Hawks draft guys to "fit" this scheme. But, I've always thought, instead of having a scheme where you need certain players that fit that scheme, wouldn't it be better to have a scheme where the talent pool and players you seek are more plentiful?

    Tom Cable has said college lineman aren't NFL ready. Well, if that's true, how are other teams able to build good lines and Cable is incapable of doing so? All those other teams have the same pool of players coming from college their drafting. But they seem to be doing a better job of putting a line together. It's gotta be this "Zone blocking scheme" maybe it is outdated, cause it seems darn hard to locate 5 guys that fit this system.

    Maybe this system needs to be revised and something else needs to be done.

    Football isn't a "simple" game by any means but can't schemes be simplified?

    Here's what you look for, just my opinion:

    Left Tackle: Strong upper body, athletic and moves feet very well.
    Left Guard: Big lower base.
    Center: Highly intelligent
    Right Guard: Big lower base.
    Right Tackle: Strong upper body, athletic and moves feel very well.

    Simpler to find compared to these "Zone blockers", right?? Hahah.
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  • joeseahawks wrote:Remember when he said that college Linemen were not properly trained and he picked guys from the streets who used to play soccer (or was it Field Hockey or Cricket :) ) and tried to turn them into O-Linemen?

    I asked the question earlier if our Failure on the O-Line was due to bad talent of bad coaching (or maybe bad scouting)...
    Something drastic needs to happen soon.
    When i see how much time Rodgers had back there and how much time Russ is given ... it is really unfair.


    It's bad coaching....only one player that has been under Cable's tutelage has gotten a second contract. Even that player is not playing the position he was initially drafted for. Cable has been in Seattle for 6 years now and only 1 player in that time was deemed good enough to warrant a second contract. Think on that for a moment.....
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  • Cable is the constant when it comes to O-line and running back play. If I'm a defensive player I am starting to look at Pete straight in the eye and ask the same question we all are. How can this team carry the dead weight that it has at one coaching position. Pete needs to shit can Tom Cable. He has proven to be the weakest coaching link on the Hawks. There is enough data to prove that point.
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  • Rat wrote:He socked that one dude pretty good in the face.

    I thought that was his ex wife(s)?
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  • joeseahawks wrote:Remember when he said that college Linemen were not properly trained and he picked guys from the streets who used to play soccer (or was it Field Hockey or Cricket :) ) and tried to turn them into O-Linemen?

    I asked the question earlier if our Failure on the O-Line was due to bad talent of bad coaching (or maybe bad scouting)...
    Something drastic needs to happen soon.
    When i see how much time Rodgers had back there and how much time Russ is given ... it is really unfair.

    I remember L'ael Collins being available and I was like, "Pete Carroll loves guys like this" and we need lineman, draft him!" But nope.
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  • He duped Tampa Bay into giving Sweezy a huge contract
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  • hawkfan68 wrote:
    joeseahawks wrote:Remember when he said that college Linemen were not properly trained and he picked guys from the streets who used to play soccer (or was it Field Hockey or Cricket :) ) and tried to turn them into O-Linemen?

    I asked the question earlier if our Failure on the O-Line was due to bad talent of bad coaching (or maybe bad scouting)...
    Something drastic needs to happen soon.
    When i see how much time Rodgers had back there and how much time Russ is given ... it is really unfair.


    It's bad coaching....only one player that has been under Cable's tutelage has gotten a second contract. Even that player is not playing the position he was initially drafted for. Cable has been in Seattle for 6 years now and only 1 player in that time was deemed good enough to warrant a second contract. Think on that for a moment.....


    Only one? That's blatantly false.

    :177692: but I get it.

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  • Jville wrote:
    hawkfan68 wrote:
    joeseahawks wrote:Remember when he said that college Linemen were not properly trained and he picked guys from the streets who used to play soccer (or was it Field Hockey or Cricket :) ) and tried to turn them into O-Linemen?

    I asked the question earlier if our Failure on the O-Line was due to bad talent of bad coaching (or maybe bad scouting)...
    Something drastic needs to happen soon.
    When i see how much time Rodgers had back there and how much time Russ is given ... it is really unfair.


    It's bad coaching....only one player that has been under Cable's tutelage has gotten a second contract. Even that player is not playing the position he was initially drafted for. Cable has been in Seattle for 6 years now and only 1 player in that time was deemed good enough to warrant a second contract. Think on that for a moment.....


    Only one? That's blatantly false.


    Unger was technically picked before PCJS but was moved to center under their tenure and earned a 2nd contract for the Seahawks. Britt, also moved to center also earned one.

    We've certainly let our share of mediocre go but seemingly have only replaced them with awful.
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  • Benno, Sweezy, Carpenter, Okung, Unger ...
    These guys didn't rank last during their tenure here ...
    Isn't there a stat that says ... we have drafted more o-linemen than any other position under this regime?
    Are we just drafting the wrong guys (Ifedi ) ?
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  • TheLegendOfBoom wrote:
    joeseahawks wrote:Remember when he said that college Linemen were not properly trained and he picked guys from the streets who used to play soccer (or was it Field Hockey or Cricket :) ) and tried to turn them into O-Linemen?

    I asked the question earlier if our Failure on the O-Line was due to bad talent of bad coaching (or maybe bad scouting)...
    Something drastic needs to happen soon.
    When i see how much time Rodgers had back there and how much time Russ is given ... it is really unfair.

    I remember L'ael Collins being available and I was like, "Pete Carroll loves guys like this" and we need lineman, draft him!" But nope.



    L'ael Collins wasn't going to sign with any team that drafted him after the third round. Projected to be a first round pick, Collins stock started to drop when it was announced that he was scheduled to talk to the Louisiana State police days after the draft, about the shooting death of a pregnant woman with whom he previously had a relationship. Even though he wasn't considered a suspect a the time, that was a big red flag to every team. If a team drafted him after the 3rd round he was going to sit out the season and re-enter the draft the following year. Since he went undrafted he automatically became an UDFA and could not re-enter the draft the following year. The Seahawks could have signed him as an UDFA, but either they chose not to or he liked Dallas more for a multitude of reasons (more money, better o-line, liked the city, etc.)
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  • Jville wrote:
    hawkfan68 wrote:
    joeseahawks wrote:Remember when he said that college Linemen were not properly trained and he picked guys from the streets who used to play soccer (or was it Field Hockey or Cricket :) ) and tried to turn them into O-Linemen?

    I asked the question earlier if our Failure on the O-Line was due to bad talent of bad coaching (or maybe bad scouting)...
    Something drastic needs to happen soon.
    When i see how much time Rodgers had back there and how much time Russ is given ... it is really unfair.


    It's bad coaching....only one player that has been under Cable's tutelage has gotten a second contract. Even that player is not playing the position he was initially drafted for. Cable has been in Seattle for 6 years now and only 1 player in that time was deemed good enough to warrant a second contract. Think on that for a moment.....


    Only one? That's blatantly false.

    :177692: but I get it.

    Throwing rocks and all.


    Unger was drafted by Mora. Okung was drafted 2010 also before Cable but he didn't get a 2nd contract. Sweezy didn't, Carpenter didn't...so who is/are the other offensive lineman(s) besides Britt to get a 2nd contract on Seahawks?
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  • massari wrote:
    Rat wrote:He socked that one dude pretty good in the face.

    I thought that was his ex wife(s)?

    That was the slap. The punch was an assistant coach.
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  • hawkfan68 wrote:
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    joeseahawks wrote:Remember when he said that college Linemen were not properly trained and he picked guys from the streets who used to play soccer (or was it Field Hockey or Cricket :) ) and tried to turn them into O-Linemen?

    I asked the question earlier if our Failure on the O-Line was due to bad talent of bad coaching (or maybe bad scouting)...
    Something drastic needs to happen soon.
    When i see how much time Rodgers had back there and how much time Russ is given ... it is really unfair.


    It's bad coaching....only one player that has been under Cable's tutelage has gotten a second contract. Even that player is not playing the position he was initially drafted for. Cable has been in Seattle for 6 years now and only 1 player in that time was deemed good enough to warrant a second contract. Think on that for a moment.....


    Only one? That's blatantly false.

    :177692: but I get it.

    Throwing rocks and all.


    Unger was drafted by Mora. Okung was drafted 2010 also before Cable but he didn't get a 2nd contract. Sweezy didn't, Carpenter didn't...so who is/are the other offensive lineman(s) besides Britt to get a 2nd contract on Seahawks?

    This is technically true if you mean second contract with the Seahawks. But it's a bit misleading: Okung's first contract was 6 years (although his first year wasn't under Cable). Also multiple players got big money with other teams. The fact they went somewhere else isn't really a coaching failure.

    With that said, Cable is an assistant head coach, former NFL head coach, and presumably should have a lot of pull with the organization. I'd assume he has more to do with the makeup of the line than just pure coaching. If the oline problems are a result of JS/PC being unwilling to invest in the position, over Cable's objections, and Cable really is a great coach, he should really just quit, because he's being setup to fail.

    "The result was terrible, but it would have been even more terrible if not for me" isn't exactly an inspiring accomplishment in any profession.
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  • The fact that they went somewhere else is an office failure. Pete hired Cable. Pete keeps Cable. Pete supplies Cable players. Pete refuses to see any thing is wrong with our oline philosophy. Now.... who is the problem?
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  • SeahawksCanuck wrote:
    hawkfan68 wrote:
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    It's bad coaching....only one player that has been under Cable's tutelage has gotten a second contract. Even that player is not playing the position he was initially drafted for. Cable has been in Seattle for 6 years now and only 1 player in that time was deemed good enough to warrant a second contract. Think on that for a moment.....


    Only one? That's blatantly false.

    :177692: but I get it.

    Throwing rocks and all.


    Unger was drafted by Mora. Okung was drafted 2010 also before Cable but he didn't get a 2nd contract. Sweezy didn't, Carpenter didn't...so who is/are the other offensive lineman(s) besides Britt to get a 2nd contract on Seahawks?

    This is technically true if you mean second contract with the Seahawks. But it's a bit misleading: Okung's first contract was 6 years (although his first year wasn't under Cable). Also multiple players got big money with other teams. The fact they went somewhere else isn't really a coaching failure.

    With that said, Cable is an assistant head coach, former NFL head coach, and presumably should have a lot of pull with the organization. I'd assume he has more to do with the makeup of the line than just pure coaching. If the oline problems are a result of JS/PC being unwilling to invest in the position, over Cable's objections, and Cable really is a great coach, he should really just quit, because he's being setup to fail.

    "The result was terrible, but it would have been even more terrible if not for me" isn't exactly an inspiring accomplishment in any profession.


    I assumed this would be given since we are talking about the Seahawks. A player getting a second contact with another team doesn't help the Seahawks. I'll try to add more clarity in the future.
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  • SeahawksCanuck wrote:"The result was terrible, but it would have been even more terrible if not for me" isn't exactly an inspiring accomplishment in any profession.


    It is exactly what a charlatan middle manager does.
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  • Would have been a nice set up for a screen pass though.
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  • brimsalabim wrote:Would have been a nice set up for a screen pass though.


    We don't throw screens to RB's in the flat, every Seahawk fan should know that by now, Bubble Screen or not at all.
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  • Did you guys watch Marshawn destroy defender after defender in a Raiders uniform yesterday?

    I have a feeling that dude made some coaches look good.
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  • hawkfan68 wrote:
    SeahawksCanuck wrote:
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    Only one? That's blatantly false.

    :177692: but I get it.

    Throwing rocks and all.


    Unger was drafted by Mora. Okung was drafted 2010 also before Cable but he didn't get a 2nd contract. Sweezy didn't, Carpenter didn't...so who is/are the other offensive lineman(s) besides Britt to get a 2nd contract on Seahawks?

    This is technically true if you mean second contract with the Seahawks. But it's a bit misleading: Okung's first contract was 6 years (although his first year wasn't under Cable). Also multiple players got big money with other teams. The fact they went somewhere else isn't really a coaching failure.

    With that said, Cable is an assistant head coach, former NFL head coach, and presumably should have a lot of pull with the organization. I'd assume he has more to do with the makeup of the line than just pure coaching. If the oline problems are a result of JS/PC being unwilling to invest in the position, over Cable's objections, and Cable really is a great coach, he should really just quit, because he's being setup to fail.

    "The result was terrible, but it would have been even more terrible if not for me" isn't exactly an inspiring accomplishment in any profession.


    I assumed this would be given since we are talking about the Seahawks. A player getting a second contact with another team doesn't help the Seahawks. I'll try to add more clarity in the future.

    It's definitely not a given since your comment was in the context of coaching. It's hard to argue that someone like Sweezy getting a 30 million dollar contract after being developed by Cable is a coaching failure.

    Now as I said, I'd expect someone with Cable's experience to have a lot more influence than a simple positional coach and help JS/PC with drafting, trades, contract decisions, etc. But from a pure coaching perspective, where that second contract is signed is kind of irrelevant.
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  • DavidSeven wrote:Did you guys watch Marshawn destroy defender after defender in a Raiders uniform yesterday?

    I have a feeling that dude made some coaches look good.

    He still had some decent holes and then pulled off some off the Marshawn magic. For all the complaints at the time, Marshawn actually ran behind some decent lines here (especially in run protection). Would any of us not kill for Okung-Carpenter-Unger-Sweezy-Giacomini (plus Miller blocking at TE and Robinson at FB) at this point?
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  • He got fired a lot. Managed to get fired at Idaho, gone when mora fired in Atlanta, Fired after pathetic run in Oakland.

    Learned under the great Head Coaches prior to Pete of Jim Mora and Lane Kifin.

    Bevell and Cable go together like whatever the opposite of chocolate and peanut butter is.
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  • Smellyman wrote:He got fired a lot. Managed to get fired at Idaho, gone when mora fired in Atlanta, Fired after pathetic run in Oakland.

    Learned under the great Head Coaches prior to Pete of Jim Mora and Lane Kifin.

    Bevell and Cable go together like whatever the opposite of chocolate and peanut butter is.



    Funny you should bring that up. Tom Cable has been fired in 3 years or less at every job he has had since 1998. He has been fired as an OC a HC and a line coach. He got fired by his own alma mater Idaho. Tom Cable is a spiclaist in failure.
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  • DavidSeven wrote:Did you guys watch Marshawn destroy defender after defender in a Raiders uniform yesterday?

    I have a feeling that dude made some coaches look good.


    Thought the same thing. Made me wonder if the O-line was more of a problem then many thought in 2012-2014.
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