Are Pete's assistants on his level?

SpokaneHawks · Sep 29, 2017

I am starting to feel like this ship won't be righted this season. I know many fans blame Bevell or Cable or even Pete, but maybe the real problem is Pete is just too loyal to his assistants. This administration seems to like to promote from within. Pete's system has shown that it does work but maybe the key pieces are just long gone. When our success came, the NFL quickly snatched up our assistant coaches. The guys that were left are what we're working with. We all know Pete Carroll is a brilliant defensive minded head coach and he doesn't interfere too much with the offense. Should he be more involved with the offense or should we be looking to replace the entire offensive coaching regime?

Seymour · Sep 29, 2017

Assistant Oline coach....Brennan Carroll.

Pete too loyal??

Naaaaaw! Impossible.

scutterhawk · Sep 29, 2017

There are several obstacles facing Cable, Bevell and some of the other position coaches.
You have one of the finest Defenses in the NFL that you can practice playing against, but you can NOT practice your Cut Blocks on them, in fact you can't go full bore at practice in any facet of play. like you MUST when facing an opponent that is going balls out at you, on every play, and sometimes even after the whistle has blown.
Russell wears a red "NO CONTACT" jersey, so the Defense has to pull their punches in practice sessions.
Bevell has to be able to evaluate how proficient the O-Line is at running certain plays, and judging by the floundering around on the ground O-Line, after attempting to cut block, leads one to assess that some really good plays are likely off the table......The O-Line is just not there yet, at least not where they need to be for Bevell to pull out all the stops on play calling.
Hell, with our anemic O-Line, just trying to keep Wilson from getting pulverized is the reason Jimmy Graham is being misused...SOMEONE needs to help block on certain plays (like Gronk does for the Patriots) (like Golden Tate used to for us)

Sports Hernia · Sep 29, 2017

In a word.... No.

brimsalabim · Sep 29, 2017

scutterhawk":260ddhu6 said:
There are several obstacles facing Cable, Bevell and some of the other position coaches.
You have one of the finest Defenses in the NFL that you can practice playing against, but you can NOT practice your Cut Blocks on them, in fact you can't go full bore at practice in any facet of play. like you MUST when facing an opponent that is going balls out at you, on every play, and sometimes even after the whistle has blown.
Russell wears a red "NO CONTACT" jersey, so the Defense has to pull their punches in practice sessions.
Bevell has to be able to evaluate how proficient the O-Line is at running certain plays, and judging by the floundering around on the ground O-Line, after attempting to cut block, leads one to assess that some really good plays are likely off the table......The O-Line is just not there yet, at least not where they need to be for Bevell to pull out all the stops on play calling.
Hell, with our anemic O-Line, just trying to keep Wilson from getting pulverized is the reason Jimmy Graham is being misused...SOMEONE needs to help block on certain plays (like Gronk does for the Patriots) (like Golden Tate used to for us)

Eureka! You may have stumbled upon the answer. Russell just needs to wear that red jersey in games!

Siouxhawk · Sep 29, 2017

I'm not sure what you mean by "his level," but his staff certainly warrants his faith and have measured up to the expectations he has. They all add their expertise to the vision Pete has as a whole and it's why the Hawks have thrived these past 5 years.

WmHBonney · Sep 29, 2017

scutterhawk":21p5p7k6 said:
There are several obstacles facing Cable, Bevell and some of the other position coaches.
You have one of the finest Defenses in the NFL that you can practice playing against, but you can NOT practice your Cut Blocks on them, in fact you can't go full bore at practice in any facet of play. like you MUST when facing an opponent that is going balls out at you, on every play, and sometimes even after the whistle has blown.
Russell wears a red "NO CONTACT" jersey, so the Defense has to pull their punches in practice sessions.
Bevell has to be able to evaluate how proficient the O-Line is at running certain plays, and judging by the floundering around on the ground O-Line, after attempting to cut block, leads one to assess that some really good plays are likely off the table......The O-Line is just not there yet, at least not where they need to be for Bevell to pull out all the stops on play calling.
Hell, with our anemic O-Line, just trying to keep Wilson from getting pulverized is the reason Jimmy Graham is being misused...SOMEONE needs to help block on certain plays (like Gronk does for the Patriots) (like Golden Tate used to for us)

How is this different from what the rest of the NFL does in practice?

sdog1981 · Sep 29, 2017

scutterhawk":sn7m2ejb said:
Russell wears a red "NO CONTACT" jersey, so the Defense has to pull their punches in practice sessions.

This has been the NFL standard for 30 years at a minimum.

TheLegendOfBoom · Sep 29, 2017

scutterhawk":3qgu2jo6 said:
There are several obstacles facing Cable, Bevell and some of the other position coaches.
You have one of the finest Defenses in the NFL that you can practice playing against, but you can NOT practice your Cut Blocks on them, in fact you can't go full bore at practice in any facet of play. like you MUST when facing an opponent that is going balls out at you, on every play, and sometimes even after the whistle has blown.
Russell wears a red "NO CONTACT" jersey, so the Defense has to pull their punches in practice sessions.
Bevell has to be able to evaluate how proficient the O-Line is at running certain plays, and judging by the floundering around on the ground O-Line, after attempting to cut block, leads one to assess that some really good plays are likely off the table......The O-Line is just not there yet, at least not where they need to be for Bevell to pull out all the stops on play calling.
Hell, with our anemic O-Line, just trying to keep Wilson from getting pulverized is the reason Jimmy Graham is being misused...SOMEONE needs to help block on certain plays (like Gronk does for the Patriots) (like Golden Tate used to for us)

The Seahawks are subject to the same practice rules as the rest of the 31 NFL teams.

Some of the other 31 teams have a good offensive line.

Why can't it just be what it is and that the Seahawks philosophy no longer works with the current players and personnel?

Maybe we just have to accept that the Seahawks front office is all out ideas and the players has gotten tired of them.

Out with the old and in with the new!

This team is broken.

Kam Chancellor has said that there's too much in house bickering.

In house bickering among players/coaches doesn't usually correct itself.

It usually takes a collective exodus from both coaches and players.

Well, it was fun while we were a great team!

We had only one Super Bowl to show for it!

Thank you, Marshawn Lynch! We couldn't have won it without you!

We all know Lynch and a young hungry defense was the main reason we won! Now we have neither!

Siouxhawk · Sep 29, 2017

I'm predicting another Super Bowl appearance within 3 years. We're still where others want to be.

NJlargent · Sep 29, 2017

Siouxhawk":3o4jaruw said:
I'm predicting another Super Bowl appearance within 3 years. We're still where others want to be.

1-2?

Hawkspur · Sep 29, 2017

The defensive players always seemed to really respect Dan Quinn. I'm not sure they have the same level of confidence in Kris Richard. At least, they don't seem to talk about him as frequently or with the same reverence as they did 'DQ'.

Siouxhawk · Sep 29, 2017

NJlargent":2scnxze3 said:
Siouxhawk":2scnxze3 said:

I'm predicting another Super Bowl appearance within 3 years. We're still where others want to be.

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1-2?

It's how you finish.

NJlargent · Sep 29, 2017

31-0 halftime?

36-20?

Siouxhawk · Sep 29, 2017

43-8!

Seymour · Sep 29, 2017

Hawkspur":1ki629is said:
The defensive players always seemed to really respect Dan Quinn. I'm not sure they have the same level of confidence in Kris Richard. At least, they don't seem to talk about him as frequently or with the same reverence as they did 'DQ'.

Could also be they were young and impressionable then, and older and know more than the coaches today also.

Bobblehead · Sep 29, 2017

brimsalabim":2cy14oel said:
scutterhawk":2cy14oel said:

There are several obstacles facing Cable, Bevell and some of the other position coaches.
You have one of the finest Defenses in the NFL that you can practice playing against, but you can NOT practice your Cut Blocks on them, in fact you can't go full bore at practice in any facet of play. like you MUST when facing an opponent that is going balls out at you, on every play, and sometimes even after the whistle has blown.
Russell wears a red "NO CONTACT" jersey, so the Defense has to pull their punches in practice sessions.
Bevell has to be able to evaluate how proficient the O-Line is at running certain plays, and judging by the floundering around on the ground O-Line, after attempting to cut block, leads one to assess that some really good plays are likely off the table......The O-Line is just not there yet, at least not where they need to be for Bevell to pull out all the stops on play calling.
Hell, with our anemic O-Line, just trying to keep Wilson from getting pulverized is the reason Jimmy Graham is being misused...SOMEONE needs to help block on certain plays (like Gronk does for the Patriots) (like Golden Tate used to for us)

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Eureka! You may have stumbled upon the answer. Russell just needs to wear that red jersey in games!

So in other words, since he doesn't get hit..his line men must be doing something right... Does the coaches know about these red jerseys?

Hawkspur · Sep 29, 2017

Seymour":1j1ghexo said:
Hawkspur":1j1ghexo said:

The defensive players always seemed to really respect Dan Quinn. I'm not sure they have the same level of confidence in Kris Richard. At least, they don't seem to talk about him as frequently or with the same reverence as they did 'DQ'.

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Could also be they were young and impressionable then, and older and know more than the coaches today also.

Yep. Could be. I quite like the idea of a couple of vet leaders and a majority of the squad being young, hungry and impressionable.

cymatica · Sep 30, 2017

Siouxhawk":37k86wfi said:
NJlargent":37k86wfi said:

Siouxhawk":37k86wfi said:

I'm predicting another Super Bowl appearance within 3 years. We're still where others want to be.

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1-2?

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It's how you finish.

How did the "it's not how you start it's how you finish" mantra work in Teseasons? How about the last few seasons?

Siouxhawk · Sep 30, 2017

cymatica":2mgackpp said:
Siouxhawk":2mgackpp said:

NJlargent":2mgackpp said:

Siouxhawk":2mgackpp said:

I'm predicting another Super Bowl appearance within 3 years. We're still where others want to be.

Click to expand...

1-2?

Click to expand...

It's how you finish.

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How did the "it's not how you start it's how you finish" mantra work in Teseasons? How about the last few seasons?

Fill me in on what a Teseason is first?

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