Seahawks O line top 10 per this article.

sutz":2fpvdq82 said:

The article is quoting PFF as listing Seahawks in top 10. Take that as you will.

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KiwiHawk":18ltcsg7 said:

Keep in mind that the metric for a successful O-line passing block is 2.5 seconds. Wilson regularly holds the ball longer than that simply because he's Russell Wilson and he can. Often to spectacular effect.

However, it does expose him to more pressures and hits than a QB like Brady who gets rid of the ball on time.

The thing of it is, the thing the OL needs to improve is time playing together. Not a revolving door of e 6very aging vet, not constant long-shots at new players, but just time to gel as a unit. I see people constantly harping on the OL as if players remain static. They don't. They improve and they are impacted by the guys around them.

Even Walter Jones was less effective when Hutchinson left. The best of the best are not immune from the concept of synergy. Jones and Hutch played like they shared a brain - each knew exactly how the other was going to react at all times. Each was awesome in his own right, but together they were next-level good.

Check back in a few games and you'll see the OL is doing better, Wilson has a better feel for how much or little time he has, and the running game is looking better, simply because they have had more consistency.

Or they'll all be injured and our season will be over.

But one of those two things.

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sdog1981":bb32y5qc said:

The Seahawks will not face an elite defensive line again until November 20th. So we will see what they can get done between now and then.

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KiwiHawk":2vqhntoy said:

Keep in mind that the metric for a successful O-line passing block is 2.5 seconds. Wilson regularly holds the ball longer than that simply because he's Russell Wilson and he can. Often to spectacular effect.

However, it does expose him to more pressures and hits than a QB like Brady who gets rid of the ball on time.

The thing of it is, the thing the OL needs to improve is time playing together. Not a revolving door of every aging vet, not constant long-shots at new players, but just time to gel as a unit. I see people constantly harping on the OL as if players remain static. They don't. They improve and they are impacted by the guys around them.

Even Walter Jones was less effective when Hutchinson left. The best of the best are not immune from the concept of synergy. Jones and Hutch played like they shared a brain - each knew exactly how the other was going to react at all times. Each was awesome in his own right, but together they were next-level good.

Check back in a few games and you'll see the OL is doing better, Wilson has a better feel for how much or little time he has, and the running game is looking better, simply because they have had more consistency.

Or they'll all be injured and our season will be over.

But one of those two things.

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seahawkfreak":j6chb2tw said:

Like what I see from pass protection but I'm not crowning them until the run blocking is more consistent. <snip>

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olyfan63":2fjjpwk3 said:

seahawkfreak":2fjjpwk3 said:

Like what I see from pass protection but I'm not crowning them until the run blocking is more consistent. <snip>

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You said Crown???!!! You want to crown our O-Line??!! Crown???!!! I SAY CROWN THEIR ASSES, NOW!!
It turns out that Dennis agrees, Top-Ten line, while Jim M. doubts their ability to keep Russell upright, and suggests lowering our standards for evaluating our O-Line performance. Both expressed their opinions in passionate video interviews, below.

DENNIS G ON 2017 SEAHAWK O-LINE:
Here's what Dennis has to say about our O-Line:

[youtube]nAN9ORwsiVA[/youtube]

JIM M. INTERVIEW ON 2017 SEATTLE O-LINE
I called NFL Expert Jim M. to get his opinion on our O-Line, and in the very brief and heated interview, he stated, incredulously, and emphatically, that our O-Line is not Top Ten. Sorry for the poor audio quality on that one guys--a couple words are hard to hear over the background noise, so I've included a transcript of the interview below.

(Jim M. Interview TRANSCRIPT)
"UPRIGHT? DON'T TALK ABOUT UPRIGHT!! YOU KIDDING ME, STAY UPRIGHT??!! With this O-Line, I just hope Russell can survive the play, survive another pass play."

NFL Expert, Jim M. interview on our O-Line here:
https://youtu.be/8N3-x8XjftQ?t=94

I could not get on Brock H's schedule in time to post an interview, but Brock has graciously agreed to post a video of his thoughts in an upcoming chalk talk. In the meantime, he referred me to this photo:
[imghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKlnRJIW4AEd11I.jpg][/img]

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Scorpion05":2sbp47jj said:

KiwiHawk":2sbp47jj said:

Keep in mind that the metric for a successful O-line passing block is 2.5 seconds. Wilson regularly holds the ball longer than that simply because he's Russell Wilson and he can. Often to spectacular effect.

However, it does expose him to more pressures and hits than a QB like Brady who gets rid of the ball on time.

The thing of it is, the thing the OL needs to improve is time playing together. Not a revolving door of every aging vet, not constant long-shots at new players, but just time to gel as a unit. I see people constantly harping on the OL as if players remain static. They don't. They improve and they are impacted by the guys around them.

Even Walter Jones was less effective when Hutchinson left. The best of the best are not immune from the concept of synergy. Jones and Hutch played like they shared a brain - each knew exactly how the other was going to react at all times. Each was awesome in his own right, but together they were next-level good.

Check back in a few games and you'll see the OL is doing better, Wilson has a better feel for how much or little time he has, and the running game is looking better, simply because they have had more consistency.

Or they'll all be injured and our season will be over.

But one of those two things.

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I know this is the popular opinion, but the actual numbers show Russell doesn't hold the ball that long in comparison to some of the elite Qbs in the league. Including Brady. The numbers have been highlighted in other threads

Granted, I'm not suggesting Wilson doesn't hold the ball at times, but it's not at anamoly. Whereas other Qbs hold the ball to go to their 2nd, 3rd, or 4th read..Wilson holds it to extend the play. It typically averages out to the same thing, so Russell gets rid of the ball more quickly than people thinks he does

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Scorpion05":26iesu1c said:

KiwiHawk":26iesu1c said:

Keep in mind that the metric for a successful O-line passing block is 2.5 seconds. Wilson regularly holds the ball longer than that simply because he's Russell Wilson and he can. Often to spectacular effect.

However, it does expose him to more pressures and hits than a QB like Brady who gets rid of the ball on time.

The thing of it is, the thing the OL needs to improve is time playing together. Not a revolving door of every aging vet, not constant long-shots at new players, but just time to gel as a unit. I see people constantly harping on the OL as if players remain static. They don't. They improve and they are impacted by the guys around them.

Even Walter Jones was less effective when Hutchinson left. The best of the best are not immune from the concept of synergy. Jones and Hutch played like they shared a brain - each knew exactly how the other was going to react at all times. Each was awesome in his own right, but together they were next-level good.

Check back in a few games and you'll see the OL is doing better, Wilson has a better feel for how much or little time he has, and the running game is looking better, simply because they have had more consistency.

Or they'll all be injured and our season will be over.

But one of those two things.

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I know this is the popular opinion, but the actual numbers show Russell doesn't hold the ball that long in comparison to some of the elite Qbs in the league. Including Brady. The numbers have been highlighted in other threads

Granted, I'm not suggesting Wilson doesn't hold the ball at times, but it's not at anamoly. Whereas other Qbs hold the ball to go to their 2nd, 3rd, or 4th read..Wilson holds it to extend the play. It typically averages out to the same thing, so Russell gets rid of the ball more quickly than people thinks he does

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Popeyejones":1c88ti6b said:

Scorpion05":1c88ti6b said:

KiwiHawk":1c88ti6b said:

Keep in mind that the metric for a successful O-line passing block is 2.5 seconds. Wilson regularly holds the ball longer than that simply because he's Russell Wilson and he can. Often to spectacular effect.

However, it does expose him to more pressures and hits than a QB like Brady who gets rid of the ball on time.

The thing of it is, the thing the OL needs to improve is time playing together. Not a revolving door of every aging vet, not constant long-shots at new players, but just time to gel as a unit. I see people constantly harping on the OL as if players remain static. They don't. They improve and they are impacted by the guys around them.

Even Walter Jones was less effective when Hutchinson left. The best of the best are not immune from the concept of synergy. Jones and Hutch played like they shared a brain - each knew exactly how the other was going to react at all times. Each was awesome in his own right, but together they were next-level good.

Check back in a few games and you'll see the OL is doing better, Wilson has a better feel for how much or little time he has, and the running game is looking better, simply because they have had more consistency.

Or they'll all be injured and our season will be over.

But one of those two things.

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I know this is the popular opinion, but the actual numbers show Russell doesn't hold the ball that long in comparison to some of the elite Qbs in the league. Including Brady. The numbers have been highlighted in other threads

Granted, I'm not suggesting Wilson doesn't hold the ball at times, but it's not at anamoly. Whereas other Qbs hold the ball to go to their 2nd, 3rd, or 4th read..Wilson holds it to extend the play. It typically averages out to the same thing, so Russell gets rid of the ball more quickly than people thinks he does

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He has the fourth longest time to throw in the NFL so far this year. Only Watson, Kizer, and Taylor are holding the ball longner than him.

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sdog1981":27qsi246 said:

People who cite PFF as a reason that the line sucks also need to cite PFF when they say the line is elite. I just know that 4/5th of the line last week was on the team last year and two of them COULD be in their second year as NFL O-Tackles. A broken clock is right twice a day.

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