chris98251
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Those that seen the train coming and called it before the season concerning the offensive inadequacies, nobody wants to hear you, nobody wants to have their unsupported optimism tarnished and the Trust in Pete mantra tarnished.
Just going back to this thread. 5 takeaways from Seahawks’ offensive line coach Tom Cable’s last may we can see a bit of the problem.
But even farther back we had threads concerning issues when teams started to stuff Lynch more and then he was injured.
It went from a concern to a problem and now a major issue.
The people that have blind optimism are fine, we need them for moral and keep spirits up, many don't care about the issues and just want to cheer their team which is great.
Those that are more about watching the growth and reasons for it as well as the regressions and reasons for it are fine as well, they just may be more weather worn over the years from watching trends and the ups and downs of teams, calling out to them many times obvious issues that those in the optimistic side would rather not hear. Nobody want's to be told they are getting old, I can see your getting grey hairs, or you starting to get a pot belly and your boobs are sagging.
As Cable stated the O line is where the bargain hunting is, Bevell and him knowing this should also be keenly aware that your not going to find the guys your looking for in the Bargain bin on a regular basis. Saying that there are three ways or problems to fix or blame our issues there.
1) Pete has to change his philosophy, at least somewhat, a simpler scheme that is conducive to the talents we can acquire, along with this Bevell has to adjust his play calling to the greatest weaknesses we have either run and or pass blocking, right now were asking Rosanne Barr to sing the National Anthem like Whitney Houston, and we do it every week.
2) Adjust your roster to more balanced spending between offense and defense, this again goers back to Pete and John, love the defense but you can't expect to compete with reaches and guys your trying to change positions with and projects every year.
3) Adapt, the league has us figured out on offense, make Wilson beat us, contain and let him do his thing, take away the receivers with 8 men in coverage, play close to the line to stop what ever we attempt to try as a running game with Linebackers that are fast and can shoot gaps.
Additionally the league has changed as well, they have brought in big corners and have went the speed approach in Linebackers and big secondary guys at Safety very much mirroring what we have, it still works for us on defense but our offense is playing against teams that have a lot of what we do in their packages and it shuts down offenses. Our offense has never been one to run up points early, but we can't score hardly at all now especially in the first half unless we use the broken play magic. We don't do that until the lead on us becomes double digit or it's the 4th quarter.
That has to change, again it philosophy and goes back to Pete.
Really Pete has to start trusting his Coaches to adapt and make good choices, yes he is Head Coach, but his assistant coaches and OC / DC were hired to do a job as well, micro managing them has become an issue at this juncture. Let them do there jobs. Really it may be Pete has lost his objectivity and is too close to the situation due to his hands on everything approach. He doesn't have a Ray Rhodes who Holmgren trusted to keep him honest and Fritz Shurmer before that, Everyone he seems to have is a I'm In guy.
Going forward, if we do not change staff, I also don't see a lot of change in our O line next year also, we don't have the draft picks or the cap space for wholesale changes especially if were resigning so many of our own free agents or going to attempt to. One thing with not making the playoffs, players start looking for greener pastures on teams rising. With the injuries we have had to key guys who were costly as far as cap that may not come back or come back at the level they were before we may be parting ways and making trades to salvage something from them as far as the cap, this means it is more important to sign the guys that filled in and were successful that are free agents now. If we do not we will slip further until the cap and draft allow us to catch up again with a purge and youth infusion and that growing pain itself.
Both sides of the field have their purpose, nobody has to buy into one side or the other, but considering that opinion may be worth while if made with supporting thoughts.
Just going back to this thread. 5 takeaways from Seahawks’ offensive line coach Tom Cable’s last may we can see a bit of the problem.
But even farther back we had threads concerning issues when teams started to stuff Lynch more and then he was injured.
It went from a concern to a problem and now a major issue.
The people that have blind optimism are fine, we need them for moral and keep spirits up, many don't care about the issues and just want to cheer their team which is great.
Those that are more about watching the growth and reasons for it as well as the regressions and reasons for it are fine as well, they just may be more weather worn over the years from watching trends and the ups and downs of teams, calling out to them many times obvious issues that those in the optimistic side would rather not hear. Nobody want's to be told they are getting old, I can see your getting grey hairs, or you starting to get a pot belly and your boobs are sagging.
As Cable stated the O line is where the bargain hunting is, Bevell and him knowing this should also be keenly aware that your not going to find the guys your looking for in the Bargain bin on a regular basis. Saying that there are three ways or problems to fix or blame our issues there.
1) Pete has to change his philosophy, at least somewhat, a simpler scheme that is conducive to the talents we can acquire, along with this Bevell has to adjust his play calling to the greatest weaknesses we have either run and or pass blocking, right now were asking Rosanne Barr to sing the National Anthem like Whitney Houston, and we do it every week.
2) Adjust your roster to more balanced spending between offense and defense, this again goers back to Pete and John, love the defense but you can't expect to compete with reaches and guys your trying to change positions with and projects every year.
3) Adapt, the league has us figured out on offense, make Wilson beat us, contain and let him do his thing, take away the receivers with 8 men in coverage, play close to the line to stop what ever we attempt to try as a running game with Linebackers that are fast and can shoot gaps.
Additionally the league has changed as well, they have brought in big corners and have went the speed approach in Linebackers and big secondary guys at Safety very much mirroring what we have, it still works for us on defense but our offense is playing against teams that have a lot of what we do in their packages and it shuts down offenses. Our offense has never been one to run up points early, but we can't score hardly at all now especially in the first half unless we use the broken play magic. We don't do that until the lead on us becomes double digit or it's the 4th quarter.
That has to change, again it philosophy and goes back to Pete.
Really Pete has to start trusting his Coaches to adapt and make good choices, yes he is Head Coach, but his assistant coaches and OC / DC were hired to do a job as well, micro managing them has become an issue at this juncture. Let them do there jobs. Really it may be Pete has lost his objectivity and is too close to the situation due to his hands on everything approach. He doesn't have a Ray Rhodes who Holmgren trusted to keep him honest and Fritz Shurmer before that, Everyone he seems to have is a I'm In guy.
Going forward, if we do not change staff, I also don't see a lot of change in our O line next year also, we don't have the draft picks or the cap space for wholesale changes especially if were resigning so many of our own free agents or going to attempt to. One thing with not making the playoffs, players start looking for greener pastures on teams rising. With the injuries we have had to key guys who were costly as far as cap that may not come back or come back at the level they were before we may be parting ways and making trades to salvage something from them as far as the cap, this means it is more important to sign the guys that filled in and were successful that are free agents now. If we do not we will slip further until the cap and draft allow us to catch up again with a purge and youth infusion and that growing pain itself.
Both sides of the field have their purpose, nobody has to buy into one side or the other, but considering that opinion may be worth while if made with supporting thoughts.
