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Re: Malik McDowell
Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:34 pm
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Re: Malik McDowell
Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:32 pm
  • Sure glad nobody that is saying how terrible this guy is as a person and player made any mistakes or did anything dumb when they were 20 years old. You guys could almost walk on water.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:37 pm
  • The age thing is an excuse, these are adults who should know better.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Mon Jan 29, 2018 2:54 pm
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:The age thing is an excuse, these are adults who should know better.


    So your the one that parts the Red Sea, I take it and was a perfect example of perfection in decision making when given Millions of Dollars at the age of 20 years old with no education in how to handle the popularity and that kind of money.

    Age is an excuse, he was a smart ass kid.

    He took a stupid risk and hurt himself.


    We should probably lock him up and give him a lethal injection also since he is such a failure to humanity.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:00 pm
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:The age thing is an excuse, these are adults who should know better.


    Doesn't matter. Malik, like many young people was stupid and reckless...............now we need to figure out what to do with him.

    I don't get fans making moral judgments about players. It's over, it is what it is, now we have to move forward, and it makes ZERO sense to cut him. In fact we actually lose cap space by cutting him.

    So no matter what people think if Malik personally, he's here til 2020.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:22 pm
  • I don't want him cut. I want him to learn from it, grow up, and get on the field and dominate. I just fricken said PEOPLE CAN CHANGE. Then I get accused of thinking I can part the Red Sea. Typical, putting thoughts and words in someone's mouth, par for the course. Nobody is perfect, hopefully he steps it up and has a hell of a career. I'm excited to what he can do on the field.


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Re: Malik McDowell
Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:30 pm
  • He's a kid... jeez man. These guys are humans dude. Everyone makes mistakes. I hope it works out, he seems like an animal, but if not I hope the best for him and his health.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Mon Jan 29, 2018 3:31 pm
  • Yep, he's a kid, but he's also an adult. I suspect he's gonna' learn from it and tear it up in 2018. My god people take opinions way too serious. Hell yes he can learn from it. It's a message board, people have opinions. People have been on this guy's case all year, but I guess that's ok for some people :lol:

    But you're right, I'm obviously being too hard on the guy. I get it.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 6:42 am
  • I think the worst part about it is as a fan, we waited through day one of the draft with nothing but a trade to show for it, then more trades the second day only to make this guy the first pick of our draft overall, and that accident happened, then his arrest.

    It's a hard pill to swallow but think about the F.O. guys that made those decicions, they feel worse than we do.

    Another thing that bugs the shit out of me is all the hush, hush secrecy. Just give a synopsis so we can either forget about it or talk about the possibilities.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:15 am
  • Seahawkville nailed it.

    We didn't have much to look forward to that draft. We squandered it on a DL that had a reputation for not always playing hard and for being a path of least resistance player. Shockingly, we are surprised when football does not appear to be a priority for him at all.

    I am going a have a hard time giving the guy a chance. I admit it.

    In one of the best drafts in YEARS for RB, we pick a freaking DL and not even a pass rushing specialist. Sure we got Carson, who might end up being good or at least serviceable. But roll back to the guys on the board when our first draft slot came up, and see if you would have picked Carson.

    In one of the better drafts for secondary for DB, there were a number of safeties on the board that we could have picked - if the FO was worried about Thomas which according to his recent injuries at the time, they should have. They needed a rangy, fast, hard hitting FS and Budda Baker was just sitting there waiting to be a depth/injury replacement for Thomas and potentially helping us avoid issues if we lost ET for too long. Would have made the 'Is ET going or staying?' option a lot easier to deal with. But....we chose to avoid that and instead picked a DL that was again known for being a guy that took plays off.

    I pointed this out when we got him.

    And how did it shake out?

    We had one of the worst run games I have ever seen as a Seahawk fan (going back to mid 80s) and we have this nightmare issue with ET popping up and no reasonable replacement.

    Oh but we have this rookie DL that hasn't done crap, and might not even care that much about football. Again, we are stuck with him but it is going to be hard for me to give him much of a chance. My best case with this guy is he turns into a crappier Reed, but our obsession with DL that stop the run but cannot provide a pass rush needs to end.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:43 am
  • Seahawkville wrote:I think the worst part about it is as a fan, we waited through day one of the draft with nothing but a trade to show for it, then more trades the second day only to make this guy the first pick of our draft overall, and that accident happened, then his arrest.

    It's a hard pill to swallow but think about the F.O. guys that made those decicions, they feel worse than we do.

    Another thing that bugs the shit out of me is all the hush, hush secrecy. Just give a synopsis so we can either forget about it or talk about the possibilities.


    The FO should feel worse. They drafted a guy that had questionable motivation for the game
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:02 am
  • It was a bummer accident that may have ruined a young guy's career before it ever started. Why does anybody need to be blamed? Football fans, man...
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:12 am
  • But apparently, if you criticize a guy, that means you think you're perfect :roll:
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:24 am
  • Trrrroy wrote:It was a bummer accident that may have ruined a young guy's career before it ever started. Why does anybody need to be blamed? Football fans, man...


    Assigning fault / error / blame is how your learn from yours or others mistakes and avoid them in the future. Blowing it off as "just bad luck"...."youth", ect. is a great formula for those destined to repeat the problems and learn nothing.

    We don't even know if he was in an ATV accident. A local reporter looked up all local hospital emergencies at the reported time of accident at his location, and there was not even a record of him being admitted to a hospital, no record of any accident, and no record of an ambulance called. All we have is his word, and no confirmation as to what even happened. Who know's what to believe. Beyond that, the guy has shown us 1 recent video of his arrest where all he wanted to do is call the cops names, mouth off, and show his lack of respect for authority.

    How can anyone not see bust written all over his face at this point is beyond me, that is all I've seen from him....and seeing is believing.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:33 am
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:But apparently, if you criticize a guy, that means you think you're perfect :roll:


    Ya, just ignore that BS. Using that standard, I suppose that if you ever had a car accident, you cannot teach your own kids how to drive defensively and avoid issues since you are no better. You can never try to help someone or identify a problem even though you have the answer because you have failed at some point yourself. That is about the most ridiculous scarecrow argument I've heard here in a long time. Most people would call that a huge rationalization.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:35 am
  • Yeah, we all look at it differently. Just my own opinion, which means nothing, but the "he's just a kid" excuse gets used way too much. Fingers crossed he shocks everyone and is on the field contributing big time in 2018. That stuff he said to those officers was pretty weak to say the least. Calling them P**** a** Crackers? Really?
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:39 am
  • We don't even know that a healthy version of him would have made much difference.

    Certainly not as much difference as Sheldon Richardson made, though we lost draft picks for that one, but impact on the field would have likely been less not more.

    Not sure what we are lamenting in not getting anything from him, because without him being lost I don't think we would have gotten Richardson.

    When McDowell comes back, if he comes back, I will be shocked if he makes much impact. Rookies generally don't and guys that are a year away from any football generally take time to come back to speed/power anyway. That is a double whammy that pretty much translates into 'Don't expect much even if you get him back' - at least for the first year.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:54 am
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    Trrrroy wrote:It was a bummer accident that may have ruined a young guy's career before it ever started. Why does anybody need to be blamed? Football fans, man...


    Assigning fault / error / blame is how your learn from yours or others mistakes and avoid them in the future. Blowing it off as "just bad luck"...."youth", ect. is a great formula for those destined to repeat the problems and learn nothing.


    Are you arguing that we need to blame him for him to learn? That is silly. None of us know this kid or where his heart is, or even yhe details about what happened. We're all just a bunch of football fans that are upset he may not play a down in the NFL. Berating him online for that is ridiculous. Now if his injury was a drunk driving accident and he was remorseless that's one thing. But all the information we have says it was a severe ATV accident, which can happen to any young kid that likes to have fun. You point out that there isn't much evidence to support that, but there is even less evidence to support that it was anything else.

    Besides, where would a reporter get information on who was admitted to a hospital, or what people were getting brought in with? That is a massive HIPPA violation.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:01 pm
  • Well, he called a couple cops p***** a** Crackers. Weak sauce, and yes it was recorded and played on the radio many times.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:07 pm
  • There are an awful lot of quick judgments about the kid's character etc., etc., etc.. He's a bust???

    OK, whatever, feel free to pass judgment when we havene't seen the kid play a single down of pro ball.

    For sure he's been a disappointment but only b/c he doubled down on the ATV accident (which was disapponting) with a stupid night of drunken foolishness.

    I want to see if he actually can play before I judge whether he's a bust. So far all I see is he isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:42 pm
  • Trrrroy wrote:
    Seymour wrote:
    Trrrroy wrote:It was a bummer accident that may have ruined a young guy's career before it ever started. Why does anybody need to be blamed? Football fans, man...


    Assigning fault / error / blame is how your learn from yours or others mistakes and avoid them in the future. Blowing it off as "just bad luck"...."youth", ect. is a great formula for those destined to repeat the problems and learn nothing.


    Are you arguing that we need to blame him for him to learn? That is silly. None of us know this kid or where his heart is, or even yhe details about what happened. We're all just a bunch of football fans that are upset he may not play a down in the NFL. Berating him online for that is ridiculous. Now if his injury was a drunk driving accident and he was remorseless that's one thing. But all the information we have says it was a severe ATV accident, which can happen to any young kid that likes to have fun. You point out that there isn't much evidence to support that, but there is even less evidence to support that it was anything else.

    Besides, where would a reporter get information on who was admitted to a hospital, or what people were getting brought in with? That is a massive HIPPA violation.


    No I'm not saying that. I'm saying those in position to influence his decisions and behavior do need to though. The question I answered was "Why does anybody need to be blamed?" The short answer is accountability. Here we just post our personal opinion what we hope they may or may not do.

    And yes. You can call a hospital and ask if a friend or family member has been admitted. I've done it several times in the past. I'm not saying there was evidence one way or the other. I'm saying we don't really know, and should not assume with 100% certainty that is what happened to him.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:47 pm
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:Well, he called a couple cops p***** a** Crackers. Weak sauce, and yes it was recorded and played on the radio many times.


    I disagree with calling him an idiot and immature for that, but calling him an idiot and a bust and berating him for a possible career ending accident that we don't even know the full details of is crossing a line, IMO.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:54 pm
  • And who did that? No way of knowing if he's a bust yet. This year will tell us a lot.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:58 pm
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    SoulfishHawk wrote:Well, he called a couple cops p***** a** Crackers. Weak sauce, and yes it was recorded and played on the radio many times.


    I disagree with calling him an idiot and immature for that, but calling him an idiot and a bust and berating him for a possible career ending accident that we don't even know the full details of is crossing a line, IMO.


    If you are referring to me, that is incorrect. I said all I've seen is bust up to this point, and that is not just on the accident. It is combination of red flags and said poor work ethic prior to draft, the poor choice of getting on an ATV and getting in an accident (or whatever happened), then the video of an angry, unreasonable, pompous and total lack of respect individual that we took with our first pick (based on video AND police report).
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 12:59 pm
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:Well, he called a couple cops p***** a** Crackers. Weak sauce, and yes it was recorded and played on the radio many times.


    So it was ok that he called authorities that name because it sure seems like your defending the behavior? Most people dont get into these situations and if they do, they dont start calling the cops names. McDowell had a red flag checked off by his character and he's doing nothing to prove otherwise.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:04 pm
  • Seymour wrote:
    Trrrroy wrote:
    Seymour wrote:
    Trrrroy wrote:It was a bummer accident that may have ruined a young guy's career before it ever started. Why does anybody need to be blamed? Football fans, man...


    Assigning fault / error / blame is how your learn from yours or others mistakes and avoid them in the future. Blowing it off as "just bad luck"...."youth", ect. is a great formula for those destined to repeat the problems and learn nothing.


    Are you arguing that we need to blame him for him to learn? That is silly. None of us know this kid or where his heart is, or even yhe details about what happened. We're all just a bunch of football fans that are upset he may not play a down in the NFL. Berating him online for that is ridiculous. Now if his injury was a drunk driving accident and he was remorseless that's one thing. But all the information we have says it was a severe ATV accident, which can happen to any young kid that likes to have fun. You point out that there isn't much evidence to support that, but there is even less evidence to support that it was anything else.

    Besides, where would a reporter get information on who was admitted to a hospital, or what people were getting brought in with? That is a massive HIPPA violation.


    No I'm not saying that. I'm saying those in position to influence his decisions and behavior do need to though. The question I answered was "Why does anybody need to be blamed?" The short answer is accountability. Here we just post our personal opinion what we hope they may or may not do.

    And yes. You can call a hospital and ask if a friend or family member has been admitted. I've done it several times in the past. I'm not saying there was evidence one way or the other. I'm saying we don't really know, and should not assume with 100% certainty that is what happened to him.


    The hospital legally cant tell anybody if a patient is admitted if that patient registered as privacy, which I'm sure McDowell was.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:06 pm
  • Seymour wrote:
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    SoulfishHawk wrote:Well, he called a couple cops p***** a** Crackers. Weak sauce, and yes it was recorded and played on the radio many times.


    I disagree with calling him an idiot and immature for that, but calling him an idiot and a bust and berating him for a possible career ending accident that we don't even know the full details of is crossing a line, IMO.


    If you are referring to me, that is incorrect. I said all I've seen is bust up to this point, and that is not just on the accident. It is combination of red flags and said poor work ethic prior to draft, the poor choice of getting on an ATV and getting in an accident (or whatever happened), then the video of an angry, unreasonable, pompous and total lack of respect individual that we took with our first pick (based on video AND police report).


    This is where we disagree. I fail to see how getting on an ATV is a poor choice. Not getting on one is the poor choice IMO. They are effin fun.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:08 pm
  • Seymour wrote:
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    Seymour wrote:
    Trrrroy wrote:It was a bummer accident that may have ruined a young guy's career before it ever started. Why does anybody need to be blamed? Football fans, man...


    Assigning fault / error / blame is how your learn from yours or others mistakes and avoid them in the future. Blowing it off as "just bad luck"...."youth", ect. is a great formula for those destined to repeat the problems and learn nothing.


    Are you arguing that we need to blame him for him to learn? That is silly. None of us know this kid or where his heart is, or even yhe details about what happened. We're all just a bunch of football fans that are upset he may not play a down in the NFL. Berating him online for that is ridiculous. Now if his injury was a drunk driving accident and he was remorseless that's one thing. But all the information we have says it was a severe ATV accident, which can happen to any young kid that likes to have fun. You point out that there isn't much evidence to support that, but there is even less evidence to support that it was anything else.

    Besides, where would a reporter get information on who was admitted to a hospital, or what people were getting brought in with? That is a massive HIPPA violation.


    No I'm not saying that. I'm saying those in position to influence his decisions and behavior do need to though. The question I answered was "Why does anybody need to be blamed?" The short answer is accountability. Here we just post our personal opinion what we hope they may or may not do.

    And yes. You can call a hospital and ask if a friend or family member has been admitted. I've done it several times in the past. I'm not saying there was evidence one way or the other. I'm saying we don't really know, and should not assume with 100% certainty that is what happened to him.

    Losers focus on the problem and look for someone to blame; winners focus on solutions and look for ways to improve. The notion that, as you put it, "Assigning fault / error / blame is how you learn from your or others mistakes and avoid them in the future," is untrue. Organizations that shift focus away from blame are far more conducive to learning and growth.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:10 pm
  • Trrrroy wrote:The hospital legally cant tell anybody if a patient is admitted if that patient registered as privacy, which I'm sure McDowell was.


    That may very well be. But don't ask me, ask Gregg Bell of the Seattle Times who reported they could find nothing to verify his story. That was the point being made.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:14 pm
  • What are you talking about?? Defending him? I said it was WEAK SAUCE that he acted like that. Extremely immature, no way in hell would I defend someone acting like that, especially towards cops. Who were actually being NICE to him, but he just kept going on and on. :roll:
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:16 pm
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    Losers focus on the problem and look for someone to blame; winners focus on solutions and look for ways to improve. The notion that, as you put it, "Assigning fault / error / blame is how you learn from your or others mistakes and avoid them in the future," is untrue. Organizations that shift focus away from blame are far more conducive to learning and growth.


    Brilliant. So how do you find a solution to a problem that doesn't exist then?

    The arrest wasn't McDowells fault, "someone took his $600.00" (even though his friend and bartender said no that didn't happen).
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:19 pm
  • And take a listen to the audio, that was played over and over again on 710 and 950. He was WAY out of hand w/those cops. No excuse for it. Come on Malik, you have a huge opportunity there, take advantage of it and prove us wrong.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:39 pm
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:What are you talking about?? Defending him? I said it was WEAK SAUCE that he acted like that. Extremely immature, no way in hell would I defend someone acting like that, especially towards cops. Who were actually being NICE to him, but he just kept going on and on. :roll:
    You spend a lot of time putting words and thoughts in my mouth Pitt, whatever gets you thru the day.


    I apologize. I read your couple of posts and took it that you were making light of what he said. My fault.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:54 pm
  • All good, crappy day at work, in grump mode today :irishdrinkers:
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:00 pm
  • Seymour wrote:
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    Losers focus on the problem and look for someone to blame; winners focus on solutions and look for ways to improve. The notion that, as you put it, "Assigning fault / error / blame is how you learn from your or others mistakes and avoid them in the future," is untrue. Organizations that shift focus away from blame are far more conducive to learning and growth.


    Brilliant. So how do you find a solution to a problem that doesn't exist then?

    The arrest wasn't McDowells fault, "someone took his $600.00" (even though his friend and bartender said no that didn't happen).

    Look up the definition of focus. While you're at it, you might want to look up the definition of hyperbole.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:06 pm
  • Weirdly long thread about a guy that hasn't done anything of note on the football field in the NFL, didn't do that much of note in college even and isn't tremendously likely to do much of note on the Seahawk defense for at least next season.

    The gist seems to be that his behavior is not really winning any awards and he appears not to be that focused on football anyway - but does anyone really expect any significant contributions from him next year?

    This isn't really a 'if only...' type of story where some stellar player was lost for the season for us. This is a guy that everybody red flagged as a loafer, we picked him anyway thinking we could change it and he ended up injured or 'injured' so he could not play.

    But it isn't as losing him really mattered.

    Ultimately he is a so what type of player that hasn't done anything on the field to even warrant expecting much in the near or likely even the mid-term.

    I stick with my earlier assessment that I wish we had gone with a different pick like a RB or DB
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:18 pm
  • Sun Tzu wrote:
    Seymour wrote:
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    Losers focus on the problem and look for someone to blame; winners focus on solutions and look for ways to improve. The notion that, as you put it, "Assigning fault / error / blame is how you learn from your or others mistakes and avoid them in the future," is untrue. Organizations that shift focus away from blame are far more conducive to learning and growth.


    Brilliant. So how do you find a solution to a problem that doesn't exist then?

    The arrest wasn't McDowells fault, "someone took his $600.00" (even though his friend and bartender said no that didn't happen).

    Look up the definition of focus. While you're at it, you might want to look up the definition of hyperbole.


    What else is there to "focus" on at this point with the only news on him saying his injury is career threatening?

    What exactly is your solution, or are you not a winner either?
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:15 pm
  • This guy is a bum. Time to eat the wasted pick and move on.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:31 pm
  • Dont really care about off the field issues. Would be a huge addition if he can contribute on the field next season.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:27 pm
  • It may be a blessing that he's been raked over the coals and had words he thought were private blasted all over the Internet. Do you think now he might mind his P's and Q's and be a little more careful, now that he's had this experience, and been ridiculed and attacked? Perhaps the young man is getting an education? Or maybe he's too stupid to get it, guess we'll find out.

    I don't know how NFI affects a players pay, I hope profoundly, but he was very concerned about $600, which to him should be parking meter change after getting a paycheck or two. Anyone know precisely how the NFI affects his pay?

    Assuming he reports to camp, he's going to find himself humbled at times as part of his learning process, kicked around a bit, and exposed to the influence of real pros. He might now be in better position to pay attention.

    So I'm going on record as him having *above* a 50-50 chance to pull his head out of his ass and become a productive football player for the Seahawks. Wish me luck with that.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:39 pm
  • Here is a thought, he may have been hurt, got to camp and instead of a redshirt he got a year to get a NFL body and train, remember he is only 21.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:02 am
  • olyfan63 wrote:It may be a blessing that he's been raked over the coals and had words he thought were private blasted all over the Internet. Do you think now he might mind his P's and Q's and be a little more careful, now that he's had this experience, and been ridiculed and attacked? Perhaps the young man is getting an education? Or maybe he's too stupid to get it, guess we'll find out.

    I don't know how NFI affects a players pay, I hope profoundly, but he was very concerned about $600, which to him should be parking meter change after getting a paycheck or two. Anyone know precisely how the NFI affects his pay?

    Assuming he reports to camp, he's going to find himself humbled at times as part of his learning process, kicked around a bit, and exposed to the influence of real pros. He might now be in better position to pay attention.

    So I'm going on record as him having *above* a 50-50 chance to pull his head out of his ass and become a productive football player for the Seahawks. Wish me luck with that.


    I'm fairly sure they're not entitled to any pay but the Seahawks gave him some money weekly as a good will gesture.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:02 am
  • I saw this thread had got bumped up and immediately thought he must have done something stupid again...so many guys we could of got instead of him that would of made an instant impact...swing and a miss...
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Re: Malik McDowell
Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:25 am
  • HawkNuts wrote:This guy is a bum. Time to eat the wasted pick and move on.


    Why say this if McDowell can play, or has the possibility to play this year or next?

    Dude's not 34, he's 21. We can all be pissed off at his stupidity, yet still be patient to see if he can play or not.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:33 am
  • All I'll say is I'm way more mature at 33 then 21 even though I was pretty mature for a 21yr old having a newborn and wife.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:35 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    HawkNuts wrote:This guy is a bum. Time to eat the wasted pick and move on.


    Why say this if McDowell can play, or has the possibility to play this year or next?

    Dude's not 34, he's 21. We can all be pissed off at his stupidity, yet still be patient to see if he can play or not.


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Re: Malik McDowell
Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:52 am
  • Come on Malik, prove us wrong and tear it up.
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Re: Malik McDowell
Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:37 am
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    olyfan63 wrote:It may be a blessing that he's been raked over the coals and had words he thought were private blasted all over the Internet. Do you think now he might mind his P's and Q's and be a little more careful, now that he's had this experience, and been ridiculed and attacked? Perhaps the young man is getting an education? Or maybe he's too stupid to get it, guess we'll find out.

    I don't know how NFI affects a players pay, I hope profoundly, but he was very concerned about $600, which to him should be parking meter change after getting a paycheck or two. Anyone know precisely how the NFI affects his pay?

    Assuming he reports to camp, he's going to find himself humbled at times as part of his learning process, kicked around a bit, and exposed to the influence of real pros. He might now be in better position to pay attention.

    So I'm going on record as him having *above* a 50-50 chance to pull his head out of his ass and become a productive football player for the Seahawks. Wish me luck with that.


    I'm fairly sure they're not entitled to any pay but the Seahawks gave him some money weekly as a good will gesture.


    Yeah that weekly allowance and the $3,198,503 signing bonus he was given is all that puts food on his table.........
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Re: Malik McDowell
Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:43 am
  • As a fan, it's become kinda infuriating the way the Seahawks divulge information about injuries. Who is to say they are at liberty to do that however.?

    It's just a bummer for us that spend so much time all year following every scrap of news we can get.

    This guy was our first pick in last years draft, and never played a down. It was reported he had an accident that disfigured his face but when you see his arrest video, that isn't true.

    So, what is true?....I don't believe anything anymore unless I personally know the source and that is sad.

    We all should be looking at this whole ordeal with a cocked eyebrow.
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