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Re: Our SB winning formula is toast
Sat Feb 10, 2018 12:03 pm
  • chris98251 wrote:
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    jammerhawk wrote:We have a franchise QB who is being paid fairly. What we don’t have is an OLine who can do the job and a RB who is tougher than nails and who runs tough. Our O can’t impose it’s will on anyone. Our D is overworked and our ST are under performing.

    I agree with Largent hat the FO went away from the “formula” by trading for Harvin and Graham losing their first round picks and more to have two expensive players who Bevell had zero clue on how to properly use. Now they are both gone and the team had to trade away early picks to replace those lost picks with player the FO overpaid as they thought they might have a shot at the rings.

    After the trades the team lost their franchise RB and they haven’t yet replaced him. That said they are good at finding RB talent but need to find ‘that guy’ yet although we all remain hopeful about Carson. The loss of Lynch however combined with a totally terrible OLine has the team totally taken away from ‘the formula’ and struggling to maintain their identity. This last season their O in almost winning 11 games and actually only winning just a lowly 9 was nothing short of freaking terrible. They couldn’t run, their O was toothless, and their D was busted and under achieved.

    If the blame game has to be played as some will, it’s on Pn’J for not staying true to their formula for trading away critical early picks and not replacing the key components for their success. The fix is not that far away the D has many of the pieces but needs to add speed and toughness.changes need to happen and big changes are afoot.

    They will return to playing tough D and possession football while punching other teams in the mouth doing just that.


    Not only are they not good at finding running back talent, they are actually terrible at it. It is the 2nd most wasted draft pick spot behind oline and it really needs to get much better. Here are 13 reasons over 6 years and 5 total backs in 2016 alone that dispute your opinion on finding RB's.

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    It is not the talent at RB, it was the line and how the scheme was used. You can't run through Brick walls unless your a D9 which Lynch was close to.



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Re: Our SB winning formula is toast
Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:35 am
  • chris98251 wrote:It is not the talent at RB, it was the line and how the scheme was used. You can't run through Brick walls unless your a D9 which Lynch was close to.


    I agree with that in general and have made the statement myself. But I still disagree that they are good at finding and evaluating the RB position talent because the team still thought the problem was at RB and not so much the oline when you look at the moves they made. A recent example of this is signing and overpaying Lacey and letting Collins go in a time that cap numbers were very tight.
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Re: Our SB winning formula is toast
Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:12 pm
  • They drafted Lacey based on past production and blaming the RB's instead of holding Cable responsible for lack of running lanes, the fact the Ware, and Collins both have proven to be very good in a scheme and system that is the adaptive version of the ZBS with Power blocking lanes and pulling lineman. Lacey could not even get going in our system, why we went to the shifty scat back type to try and dodge the Defensive lineman in the backfield so much.

    This also showed the Sherman Smith was working miracles before he was released and blamed.
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Re: Our SB winning formula is toast
Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:30 pm
  • chris98251 wrote:They drafted Lacey based on past production and blaming the RB's instead of holding Cable responsible for lack of running lanes, the fact the Ware, and Collins both have proven to be very good in a scheme and system that is the adaptive version of the ZBS with Power blocking lanes and pulling lineman. Lacey could not even get going in our system, why we went to the shifty scat back type to try and dodge the Defensive lineman in the backfield so much.

    This also showed the Sherman Smith was working miracles before he was released and blamed.


    Sherman Smith probably got fired for telling Pete, Cable and Co. the truth. :x
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Re: Our SB winning formula is toast
Mon Feb 12, 2018 5:24 am
  • When you miss on both running back and ol this badly but still insist on running the ball as your base offense your boss should fire you. Pete and John are lucky they caught lightning in a jar in 2012 cause neither is brilliant as they believe they are.
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Re: Our SB winning formula is toast
Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:26 am
  • Hawkfish wrote:It would seem to me that Russell Wilson is essentially on a 2 year prove it deal. if the Hawks are not going anywhere, I think paying him 25+ million per year on a new contract would be prohibitive. At that point, we likely are need of a major rebuild and quite likely Pete Caroll would retire necessitating hiring a new coach who may or may not feel Wilson is his guy.


    Wilson is a franchise QB. No one is unloading our franchise QB - they don't come around that often. The Saints had how many losing seasons with Brees under center? Chargers? How many times have the Steelers made it to the Super Bowl with Roethlisberger?
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