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DeMarco Murray visiting
Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:38 pm
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:45 pm
  • No stone unturned huh
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:50 pm
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DeMarco Murray visiting
Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:25 pm
  • I'm having Julius Jones flashbacks.

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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:33 pm
  • Not a fan of his. He's got no lateral quickness and no stop/start. Great in the open field, but a wind up runner that needs a good 5 yards of momentum to be useful. He flat out sucks if the OL doesn't block near perfect to the hole called.

    Which probably means he's a Hawk Wednesday...
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:34 pm
  • I hear Priest Holmes and Warrick Dunn are visiting too.
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:50 pm
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:53 pm
  • ducks41468 wrote:I hear Priest Holmes and Warrick Dunn are visiting too.


    That is the running back tandem of 2004 lol.
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:34 pm
  • Murray was good the last 2 years... hell he was good every year that he wasn't in philly.
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:43 pm
  • StaffAmerica74 wrote:Murray was good the last 2 years... hell he was good every year that he wasn't in philly.

    Murray was awful last year. He clearly has lost a step, and he was pretty beat up throughout the year. Gotta give it to him though, he played through a lot of his injuries. He's a warrior.

    If you take away his big TD run against Hawks, he was probably pretty close to a sub 3 YPC average.

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    I just looked. Take away that big run, and he had 584 yards on 183 carries for a 3.2 average.
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:46 pm
  • I don’t understand why people get all up in arms for a guy visiting. Even if he is signed, at this point it doesn’t mean anything in the direction of the team. The goal right now is to get the best 90 guys into camp that you can. Signing a guy does not mean they won’t address that position in the draft. A lot of times with this front office it actually means the opposite. They are huge fans of hedging their draft needs with vets in free agency prior to the draft.

    If he comes on the cheap, with a mostly non guaranteed co tract, I’d be all for bringing him into camp. Still draft a guy, but why not let him come into camp and let him compete. I think a big thing with the change that is taking place is getting back to the always compete theory. Bring in a bunch of talent in your 90 man camp and let them truly compete for their jobs.
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:58 pm
  • If we're going to go the FA route, I'd have more interest in Carlos Hyde, Jeremy Hill, Dion Lewis, or Rex Burkhead, but Murray could probably be ok depending on the price.
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:02 pm
  • pcbball12 wrote:I don’t understand why people get all up in arms for a guy visiting. Even if he is signed, at this point it doesn’t mean anything in the direction of the team. The goal right now is to get the best 90 guys into camp that you can. Signing a guy does not mean they won’t address that position in the draft. A lot of times with this front office it actually means the opposite. They are huge fans of hedging their draft needs with vets in free agency prior to the draft.

    If he comes on the cheap, with a mostly non guaranteed co tract, I’d be all for bringing him into camp. Still draft a guy, but why not let him come into camp and let him compete. I think a big thing with the change that is taking place is getting back to the always compete theory. Bring in a bunch of talent in your 90 man camp and let them truly compete for their jobs.



    Because we signed Eddy Lacy and Cary Williams when they visited.
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:15 pm
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    pcbball12 wrote:I don’t understand why people get all up in arms for a guy visiting. Even if he is signed, at this point it doesn’t mean anything in the direction of the team. The goal right now is to get the best 90 guys into camp that you can. Signing a guy does not mean they won’t address that position in the draft. A lot of times with this front office it actually means the opposite. They are huge fans of hedging their draft needs with vets in free agency prior to the draft.

    If he comes on the cheap, with a mostly non guaranteed co tract, I’d be all for bringing him into camp. Still draft a guy, but why not let him come into camp and let him compete. I think a big thing with the change that is taking place is getting back to the always compete theory. Bring in a bunch of talent in your 90 man camp and let them truly compete for their jobs.



    Because we signed Eddy Lacy and Cary Williams when they visited.

    Ok, Cary was a terrible player his entire career and Eddie was overweight and injury prone. Demarco has been very good everywhere by Philly. He’s a good player. People are assuming we are in full rebuild mode because we released/traded Sherm and Bennett so we couldn’t possibly sign a player that isn’t young. They are still going to bring in the most talent they can into camp within their financial model. If they could get Demarco in camp for a cheap deal without a lot of guarantees, that is not a bad thing. If there are a lot of guarantees then I agree, forget about it.
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:30 pm
  • What an uninspiring pick up that would be. If we're going into the used up bin id rather Stewart, at least he looked like he had some legs last year.
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Mon Mar 12, 2018 8:36 pm
  • pcbball12 wrote:
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    pcbball12 wrote:I don’t understand why people get all up in arms for a guy visiting. Even if he is signed, at this point it doesn’t mean anything in the direction of the team. The goal right now is to get the best 90 guys into camp that you can. Signing a guy does not mean they won’t address that position in the draft. A lot of times with this front office it actually means the opposite. They are huge fans of hedging their draft needs with vets in free agency prior to the draft.

    If he comes on the cheap, with a mostly non guaranteed co tract, I’d be all for bringing him into camp. Still draft a guy, but why not let him come into camp and let him compete. I think a big thing with the change that is taking place is getting back to the always compete theory. Bring in a bunch of talent in your 90 man camp and let them truly compete for their jobs.



    Because we signed Eddy Lacy and Cary Williams when they visited.

    Ok, Cary was a terrible player his entire career and Eddie was overweight and injury prone. Demarco has been very good everywhere by Philly. He’s a good player. People are assuming we are in full rebuild mode because we released/traded Sherm and Bennett so we couldn’t possibly sign a player that isn’t young. They are still going to bring in the most talent they can into camp within their financial model. If they could get Demarco in camp for a cheap deal without a lot of guarantees, that is not a bad thing. If there are a lot of guarantees then I agree, forget about it.



    You asked why..................

    Also check again at the amount of players that are possibly gone, you have to throw in Avril and Kam and Graham and then all the tendered players that we are dangling for draft picks being tendered.
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:41 pm
  • nanomoz wrote:I'm having Julius Jones flashbacks.

    If they don't take advantage of this RB draft class, I'm going to shit out at least 3 vital organs.

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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:16 pm
  • Murray seems to be on the market a lot, first Dallas, then Philadelphia, then Titans, now FA again. A big warning sign
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:20 pm
  • Rat wrote:If we're going to go the FA route, I'd have more interest in Carlos Hyde, Jeremy Hill, Dion Lewis, or Rex Burkhead, but Murray could probably be ok depending on the price.



    I imagine they bring in one FA RB on the cheap for camp competition. As far as "cheap" camp flutter Murray I don't see working slow north/south runner, but can catch. I would much rather they kick the tires on Hyde, Blount, Stewart. I feel Burkhead is to much the same guy as Mckissic.
    I like the Idea of Carson, M Davis if cheap enough & McKissic, and draft a guy they covet, and bring in another 1-2 UDFA, get them in camp and see who is standing when the dust settles!
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:43 pm
  • When we eventually sign a RB in free agency (and we will, I'm 99% certain of that) I still firmly believe we will attack the draft depth, too. I'm most inclined to believe we will end up with one outside RB in FA and 2 in the draft.
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:56 am
  • chris98251 wrote:
    pcbball12 wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:
    pcbball12 wrote:I don’t understand why people get all up in arms for a guy visiting. Even if he is signed, at this point it doesn’t mean anything in the direction of the team. The goal right now is to get the best 90 guys into camp that you can. Signing a guy does not mean they won’t address that position in the draft. A lot of times with this front office it actually means the opposite. They are huge fans of hedging their draft needs with vets in free agency prior to the draft.

    If he comes on the cheap, with a mostly non guaranteed co tract, I’d be all for bringing him into camp. Still draft a guy, but why not let him come into camp and let him compete. I think a big thing with the change that is taking place is getting back to the always compete theory. Bring in a bunch of talent in your 90 man camp and let them truly compete for their jobs.



    Because we signed Eddy Lacy and Cary Williams when they visited.

    Ok, Cary was a terrible player his entire career and Eddie was overweight and injury prone. Demarco has been very good everywhere by Philly. He’s a good player. People are assuming we are in full rebuild mode because we released/traded Sherm and Bennett so we couldn’t possibly sign a player that isn’t young. They are still going to bring in the most talent they can into camp within their financial model. If they could get Demarco in camp for a cheap deal without a lot of guarantees, that is not a bad thing. If there are a lot of guarantees then I agree, forget about it.



    You asked why..................

    Also check again at the amount of players that are possibly gone, you have to throw in Avril and Kam and Graham and then all the tendered players that we are dangling for draft picks being tendered.

    So Avril and Kam, who have career threatening injuries...who missed a good chunk of last year anyways and have a big cap number. Losing them along with Sherm and Bennett means full rebuild? Graham, a guy that will probably get $10 mil a year and just really doesn’t fit the style we want on offense. Losing him means full rebuild? Going a different direction with players and not paying a cap to a player that isn’t worth it anymore or not reliable due to injury does not mean we are rebuilding. Just moving on from those said players because it doesn’t fiscally make sense anymore with the production, reliability, scheme fit we are getting from them. A different direction doesn’t mean rebuild.
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:01 am
  • Remember that Adrian Peterson and Jamal Charles visited last year too. Just checking Murray out and kicking the tires.
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DeMarco Murray visiting
Tue Mar 13, 2018 10:04 am
  • nanomoz wrote:I'm having Julius Jones flashbacks.

    If they don't take advantage of this RB draft class, I'm going to crap out at least 3 vital organs.

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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:12 pm
  • It seems like Murray may be available on the cheap, if he will go for vet minimum plus lots of incentives to make contract presentable, we should sign him. Let him come to camp and compete.


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Wed Apr 04, 2018 8:51 pm


  • Another guy who has definitely lost a step. Not sure he would be a good fit for our OL, even at the vet minimum.
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:21 am
  • Haha. If nothing else - he was a step ahead of the Hawks entire D as he ran
    through it and made them look just silly.
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:30 am
  • 2014 called. It wants it’s star player back.


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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:41 am
  • He didn't look like an average back when he was going 70 plus on the Legion.....
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:09 pm
  • He would have done nothing last year behind the Hawk line. Just ask Lacy, Rawls, Collins, et al.
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:02 am
  • Nor would most RB's, good or not.
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Fri Apr 06, 2018 8:22 am
  • Not my first choice, but I'm OK with it as long as it doesn't change the RB plan any. Just another name to the mix; great if it works out, easy to cut if it doesn't.
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Fri Apr 06, 2018 9:04 am
  • Not going to happen after Davis signing. Shouldn't have been considered anyway. Murray is a long strider who needs to be provided a crease by the OL. He's at his best in the open field.
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Re: DeMarco Murray visiting
Sat Apr 07, 2018 1:48 am
  • Here's the RB's still available (although it appears Danny Woodhead has actually retired)

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