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MD5eahawks wrote:I really don't get the questioning of Russell Wilson. My god, what does he have to do!?!?
MD5eahawks wrote:I really don't get the questioning of Russell Wilson. My god, what does he have to do!?!?
XxXdragonXxX wrote:As of yet or as of tomorrow?
Steve2222 wrote:He’s the #2 QB. He’s a QB who can lead his team to victory despite the talent around them. The Seahawks roster last year was 2 or 3 wins talent wise and he remarkably got us to 9. Could have easily been 11 with a competent kicker.
WilsonMVP wrote:Lets see
Last year he was
9th in passing yards
1st in passing TD
10th in QB rating
33rd in the league in rushing yards and had over 100 yards more than the next two Seahawk RBs
2 Years ago
10th in passing yards
17th in passing TD
14th in QB rating
Objectively with Stats he is NOT a TOP 5 QB to be honest which sucks...BUT to anyone that knows the circumstances around it, the OL was the worst in the league, he played injured 2 years ago, and he has accounted for a lot of our rushing yards with zero running game. The best RB we have had last 2 years was Christine Micahel with 469 yards.
I think he is a top 5 QB but the stats dont bare it out. Hopefully we will see him return to form this year
hawkman wrote:Steve2222 wrote:He’s the #2 QB. He’s a QB who can lead his team to victory despite the talent around them. The Seahawks roster last year was 2 or 3 wins talent wise and he remarkably got us to 9. Could have easily been 11 with a competent kicker.
Please tell us your joking
hawkman wrote:SoulfishHawk wrote:Yeah, can't take anyone serious who thinks Russ is #15. Just another "fan" who chooses to hate the guy, regardless what has done. He's only the best QB the team has ever had.
That’s a huge insult to Hasselbeck was who could play from the pocket and didn’t panic at the remote some of pressure. Wilson is a better athlete, but has was twice the qb.
hawkman wrote:Steve2222 wrote:He’s the #2 QB. He’s a QB who can lead his team to victory despite the talent around them. The Seahawks roster last year was 2 or 3 wins talent wise and he remarkably got us to 9. Could have easily been 11 with a competent kicker.
Please tell us your joking
Seymour wrote:hawkman wrote:Steve2222 wrote:He’s the #2 QB. He’s a QB who can lead his team to victory despite the talent around them. The Seahawks roster last year was 2 or 3 wins talent wise and he remarkably got us to 9. Could have easily been 11 with a competent kicker.
Please tell us your joking
He is as serious as you were saying he is #15 best and Hasselbeck was "twice the QB".![]()
#2 is a hell of a lot closer to fact than #15.hawkman wrote:SoulfishHawk wrote:Yeah, can't take anyone serious who thinks Russ is #15. Just another "fan" who chooses to hate the guy, regardless what has done. He's only the best QB the team has ever had.
That’s a huge insult to Hasselbeck was who could play from the pocket and didn’t panic at the remote some of pressure. Wilson is a better athlete, but has was twice the qb.
Steve2222 wrote:hawkman wrote:Steve2222 wrote:He’s the #2 QB. He’s a QB who can lead his team to victory despite the talent around them. The Seahawks roster last year was 2 or 3 wins talent wise and he remarkably got us to 9. Could have easily been 11 with a competent kicker.
Please tell us your joking
We must have been watching a different Seahawks OL and stable of running backs last year. Their OL and HBs were so bad that the team last year was in fact a 2-3 win talent team. They were that bad to bring everyone else down. Rodgers and Wilson are the only QBs in the league who could perform behind that OL. Luckily Wilson is durable, Rodgers definitely would have gotten hurt behind that OL.
hgwellz12 wrote:Seymour wrote:hawkman wrote:Steve2222 wrote:He’s the #2 QB. He’s a QB who can lead his team to victory despite the talent around them. The Seahawks roster last year was 2 or 3 wins talent wise and he remarkably got us to 9. Could have easily been 11 with a competent kicker.
Please tell us your joking
He is as serious as you were saying he is #15 best and Hasselbeck was "twice the QB".![]()
#2 is a hell of a lot closer to fact than #15.hawkman wrote:SoulfishHawk wrote:Yeah, can't take anyone serious who thinks Russ is #15. Just another "fan" who chooses to hate the guy, regardless what has done. He's only the best QB the team has ever had.
That’s a huge insult to Hasselbeck was who could play from the pocket and didn’t panic at the remote some of pressure. Wilson is a better athlete, but has was twice the qb.
Dear God! He actually typed that shit? And meant it? Please tell me u cut the sarcasm emojis off of his quote!
hawkman wrote:Was he the mastermind that made that got us Super Bowl? Or the Idiot the internet idiots called him out to be?
I hope I don’t get banned, and this thread stays around for a year or so. I would trade Wilson for anything we could get right now. He is a great athlete. Time is not on his side. Athlete loses out to real QB when time catches up. Russell was and is fun to watch. But it is very nice easy to see he isn’t the sharpest pencil and n the box.
Sooner some quit considering the athlete a QB the sooner we might win another Super Bowl.
One promise to all of you. Lil Wilson will never win another SB in Seattle or anywhere else. Lil guy got gifted one. That’s over.
WilsonMVP wrote:Lets see
Last year he was
9th in passing yards
1st in passing TD
10th in QB rating
33rd in the league in rushing yards and had over 100 yards more than the next two Seahawk RBs
2 Years ago
10th in passing yards
17th in passing TD
14th in QB rating
Objectively with Stats he is NOT a TOP 5 QB to be honest which sucks...BUT to anyone that knows the circumstances around it, the OL was the worst in the league, he played injured 2 years ago, and he has accounted for a lot of our rushing yards with zero running game. The best RB we have had last 2 years was Christine Micahel with 469 yards.
I think he is a top 5 QB but the stats dont bare it out. Hopefully we will see him return to form this year
Seymour wrote:hawkman wrote:Steve2222 wrote:He’s the #2 QB. He’s a QB who can lead his team to victory despite the talent around them. The Seahawks roster last year was 2 or 3 wins talent wise and he remarkably got us to 9. Could have easily been 11 with a competent kicker.
Please tell us your joking
He is as serious as you were saying he is #15 best and Hasselbeck was "twice the QB".![]()
#2 is a hell of a lot closer to fact than #15.hawkman wrote:SoulfishHawk wrote:Yeah, can't take anyone serious who thinks Russ is #15. Just another "fan" who chooses to hate the guy, regardless what has done. He's only the best QB the team has ever had.
That’s a huge insult to Hasselbeck was who could play from the pocket and didn’t panic at the remote some of pressure. Wilson is a better athlete, but has was twice the qb.
hawkman wrote:Steve2222 wrote:hawkman wrote:Steve2222 wrote:He’s the #2 QB. He’s a QB who can lead his team to victory despite the talent around them. The Seahawks roster last year was 2 or 3 wins talent wise and he remarkably got us to 9. Could have easily been 11 with a competent kicker.
Please tell us your joking
We must have been watching a different Seahawks OL and stable of running backs last year. Their OL and HBs were so bad that the team last year was in fact a 2-3 win talent team. They were that bad to bring everyone else down. Rodgers and Wilson are the only QBs in the league who could perform behind that OL. Luckily Wilson is durable, Rodgers definitely would have gotten hurt behind that OL.
There isn’t an oline in the league that could successfully block for Wilson. Much of the pressure he sees is of his own doing. He is a phenomenal athlete, and not a great qb from a technical standpoint (poor footwork in the pocket, flawed throwing motion). His athleticism allows him to be successful, albeit not real consistently. Because of this style he will not have even close to the shelf life the great qb’s have.
Seymour wrote:hgwellz12 wrote:Seymour wrote:hawkman wrote:
Please tell us your joking
He is as serious as you were saying he is #15 best and Hasselbeck was "twice the QB".![]()
#2 is a hell of a lot closer to fact than #15.hawkman wrote:
That’s a huge insult to Hasselbeck was who could play from the pocket and didn’t panic at the remote some of pressure. Wilson is a better athlete, but has was twice the qb.
Dear God! He actually typed that shit? And meant it? Please tell me u cut the sarcasm emojis off of his quote!
Nope exact quote. Pretty easy to remember posts like this. Search his history, the Wilson hate is pretty damn sad.
Here is another classic that started out about why Bevell was screwed. Quickly turned out to be a Wilson hate thread.hawkman wrote:Was he the mastermind that made that got us Super Bowl? Or the Idiot the internet idiots called him out to be?
I hope I don’t get banned, and this thread stays around for a year or so. I would trade Wilson for anything we could get right now. He is a great athlete. Time is not on his side. Athlete loses out to real QB when time catches up. Russell was and is fun to watch. But it is very nice easy to see he isn’t the sharpest pencil and n the box.
Sooner some quit considering the athlete a QB the sooner we might win another Super Bowl.
One promise to all of you. Lil Wilson will never win another SB in Seattle or anywhere else. Lil guy got gifted one. That’s over.
http://seahawks.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=145850&p=2154324#p2154323
Steve2222 wrote:WilsonMVP wrote:Lets see
Last year he was
9th in passing yards
1st in passing TD
10th in QB rating
33rd in the league in rushing yards and had over 100 yards more than the next two Seahawk RBs
2 Years ago
10th in passing yards
17th in passing TD
14th in QB rating
Objectively with Stats he is NOT a TOP 5 QB to be honest which sucks...BUT to anyone that knows the circumstances around it, the OL was the worst in the league, he played injured 2 years ago, and he has accounted for a lot of our rushing yards with zero running game. The best RB we have had last 2 years was Christine Micahel with 469 yards.
I think he is a top 5 QB but the stats dont bare it out. Hopefully we will see him return to form this year
Curious, in combined yards, where did Wilson rank? Also, stats aren’t in a vacuum. You think Wentz, Brady, Goff, and Brees put up their same numbers with the Seahawks offense?
hawkman wrote:MD5eahawks wrote:I really don't get the questioning of Russell Wilson. My god, what does he have to do!?!?
Having the ability to throw consistently to the middle of the field would be a great start. Moving up in the pocket and throwing the ball would be cool to.
adeltaY wrote:Damn, someone on Twitter posted a stat that had Wilson with over a 100 passer rating when targeting the short middle of the field. Wish I could find it. Stats don't support the "he can't throw over the middle" narrative.
Also, I'd like to see where we ranked in dropped passes and how many yards above average he lost due to failed receptions.
chris98251 wrote:I look at it this way, Wilson came to us with a average or just below average O line, a HOF running back, a top 5 historical defense and performed well.
We won playoff games and a Super Bowl as a team while he was learning his craft despite the known obstacles that stopped us from doing more.
We are now in a complete rebuild mode, retooling or retraining a whole O line, bringing in new Receivers to supplement Baldwin, new TE's to help with blocking and to be used as TE's not big WR's, a new offense system that has more variables and were still in the process of identifying our running game and RB's.
On defense we have our LB corps and Earl, pretty much everyone else were roll players or learning that we're now asking to step up and be starters and impact guys going forward, an example of what can happen to a great QB put on a team with now supporting cast to help consistently is Archie Manning.
The man was a very good QB coming out of college but player 11 years I think on a New Orleans team that was terrible in just about everything the did from Drafts and trades to Coaching and their Front Office, they finally did make a defense that was very formidable but it was a high cost for the QB. He never had a winning season in New Orleans, yet was an All Pro a few times, that says something about his ability even if his stats show average or bad. He was a scrambler and had pretty good accuracy and a strong arm coming out of college and at 6'3" 220 or so was a big QB for 1971.
You know why he fought to have Eli traded to the Giants now.
I really don't want to see that happen to Wilson, when you start pressing to make things happen all the time usually it ends up being something bad, turnovers or injury. If he has regressed it is due to the Coaching and Front office failing to get him a toolbox to use adequately and trust.
KitsapGuy wrote:
AF_BASS_MAN wrote:KitsapGuy wrote:
WilsonMVP wrote:Lets see
Last year he was
9th in passing yards
1st in passing TD
10th in QB rating
33rd in the league in rushing yards and had over 100 yards more than the next two Seahawk RBs
2 Years ago
10th in passing yards
17th in passing TD
14th in QB rating
Objectively with Stats he is NOT a TOP 5 QB to be honest which sucks...BUT to anyone that knows the circumstances around it, the OL was the worst in the league, he played injured 2 years ago, and he has accounted for a lot of our rushing yards with zero running game. The best RB we have had last 2 years was Christine Micahel with 469 yards.
I think he is a top 5 QB but the stats dont bare it out. Hopefully we will see him return to form this year
Northwest Seahawk wrote:WilsonMVP wrote:Lets see
Last year he was
9th in passing yards
1st in passing TD
10th in QB rating
33rd in the league in rushing yards and had over 100 yards more than the next two Seahawk RBs
2 Years ago
10th in passing yards
17th in passing TD
14th in QB rating
Objectively with Stats he is NOT a TOP 5 QB to be honest which sucks...BUT to anyone that knows the circumstances around it, the OL was the worst in the league, he played injured 2 years ago, and he has accounted for a lot of our rushing yards with zero running game. The best RB we have had last 2 years was Christine Micahel with 469 yards.
I think he is a top 5 QB but the stats dont bare it out. Hopefully we will see him return to form this year
Please include completion percentage if your going to throw these out there throw all of them.
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